TheNexus100
02.05.13 | none of you watch it whatever anyway check out 1 its fucking sweet |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | How timely
Was a great show, not sure it's aged well.
So many better and equally gritty shows now because of it's popularity. |
tom79
02.05.13 | Oz was great. Beecher was probably my favorite character. Adebesi too, just because he was so fucked up. |
Monsterpoptart
02.05.13 | Sad face at neither of the O'reilly brothers or Adebisi on there, they were always the most consistently entertaining characters to me. |
HeyListen
02.05.13 | Totally thought you were talking about the Wizard of Oz...came here expecting to see Dorothy, Toto and
the Tin Man as your top 3. |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | O'Reily and beecher were my favorites by a long shot although J.K. Simmons as Schillinger was a great performance. yah, He'd be number 3 on my list. |
porch
02.05.13 | ˜OZ so obscure˜
used to watch it, think i stopped around the time cloutier got sealed in a wall |
DominionMM1
02.05.13 | "none of you watch it"
not true. i watched that show when it debuted. and i've got the entire series on dvd now.
Adebesi too, just because he was so fucked up. [2] |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | All the old dudes coming out to play.
Maybe this kid is looking for men to stalk? |
Buzzkillr
02.05.13 | The O'Reily brothers, Beecher, Augustus, Said, Miguel, Rebadow, Busmalis and Keller I guess. not sure about Keller though, he's a psycho and all
I also like the Warden, Sister Marie, Dr. Nathan and Father Mukada.
I particularly hate the brotherhood characters and Claire (the CO) |
Buzzkillr
02.05.13 | "So many better and equally gritty shows now because of it's popularity."
lol this is so completely false |
TheFantasticDangler
02.05.13 | I just finished the series a few weeks ago. So good. Where the fuck is Ryan O'Reilly? Also Miguel Alvarez. |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | "lol this is so completely false"
It really isn't |
Buzzkillr
02.05.13 | well if you're gonna say something as ridiculous as that, I'd at least appreciate some examples to back it up |
MO
02.05.13 | such an amazing show |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | Well if your going to say something like "this is so completely false" I'd like to know how you are so sure of yourself.
Fuck you... you go put in the man hours and find them yourself you contrarian son of a bitch. |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | Hey MO
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MO
02.05.13 | sup omnizzle |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | nada MetizzleOpizzle |
Buzzkillr
02.05.13 | "Fuck you... you go put in the man hours and find them yourself you contrarian son of a bitch."
that's fucking dumb. I obviously haven't seen any modern shows that reach oz's level of grittiness and none that reach it's quality apart from the wire and band of brothers. if you're the one saying that you've seen better and equally gritty shows, it's only logical for you to provide backup with your statement. |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | "I obviously haven't... oz's... only... statement"
I'm tiiired of all these kids posting ludicrous statements just so they can wrangle more experienced people into doing there job for them and just GIVING them all the answers.... OHHHHH NOOO GO DO IT YOURSELF YOU SWINE BITCH! |
DominionMM1
02.05.13 | yeah the last season was kind of a letdown |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | I don't think I ever watched the last season... I petered out about mid season 5. Right after Hill died I think. |
DominionMM1
02.05.13 | the whole white powder thing to end the show was fuckin lame |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | lol, dude I'm so long gone from this show I would never watch it.
but thanks for the heads up.
Kind of like the Dead Like Me add-on movie huh? |
Buzzkillr
02.05.13 | "I'm tiiired of all these kids posting ludicrous statements just so they can wrangle more experienced people into
doing there job for them and just GIVING them all the answers.... OHHHHH NOOO GO DO IT YOURSELF YOU
SWINE BITCH!"
I've probably seen more tv shows than you, so it's not like I'm trying to wrangle good tv shows to watch by asking
you. I was just curious as to what tv shows were, in your opinion, better and as gritty as oz.
You're being a real dick about it. I'm seriously confused if you're joking or not. why are you
talking about "giving answers" and "doing *their job for them"? these are tv shows we're talking about |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | YOUR TRYING TO STEALLZZ MY THOUGHTZZZZZ
No dude I'm playin. I'm serious about there being plenty of great gritty series out there now which was no the case before HBO showed there was a market for it but I'm jokin' about the rest. |
Buzzkillr
02.05.13 | are you talking about shows like game of thrones, justified, walking dead, breaking bad...
I'd honestly disagree with you if that were the case, but you're entitled to your opinion ofc. |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | The Following (fucking loving this show)
Deadwood
Game of Thrones
The Tudors
Dead Like Me
Six Feet Under
Dexter
True Blood
The Wire
All graphic physically and sexually with adult language.
(The Following being the exception to some of those.)
That's just off the top of my head and that's just scratching the surface and they all are because OZ and maybe one or two others blazed the way. |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | "wow you know about dead like me?"
Yah I used to be a lineman for Time Warner so I got all those channels + DVR for free so I watched most of those during their original runs. The series finished itself off just fine the movie ruined the sense of closure you got from the finale. |
omnipanzer
02.05.13 | Game of thrones not "equally gritty" to OZ? I've never seen GoT but based on what I've heard and having read the books I'm going to bet I'm not the only one that would disagree with that. I'd bet it's better in almost every way but I'm betting blind here I guess you could be right. Production companies have really stepped up their game in the last 10-15 years though. |
Buzzkillr
02.05.13 | I guess we're just not using the same definition of gritty. for me, gritty means harsh, realistic violence that feels unhealthy and raw. it doesn't look good and isn't glorified. I feel like the wire, oz and the sopranos are truly gritty because they're portraying real situations that people find themselves in in our current society, and violence is one of the show's creators' tools to criticize this society.
While shows like True Blood, Dexter and GoT are very graphic and explicit, they're definitely not gritty, because the violence is very stylized and the shows themselves lack realism.
and as for arguing over quality, that's just a matter of opinion. I've seen current shows like GoT, Dexter, True Blood, etc. and I honestly think Oz is better than them |
Buzzkillr
02.05.13 | if i knew that by gritty, you just meant explicit, then i wouldn't have started this argument |
TheNexus100
02.05.13 | yea buzz dont put got in the same shitty league as dexter and true blood
game of thrones is one of the best hbo dramas ever |
Buzzkillr
02.05.13 | Dexter's two first seasons are great but the show's gone downhill since then, it's laughably bad now. and I've
never really liked true blood, but the violence and sex make it entertaining enough to watch |
MisterTornado
02.05.13 | Adebisi easily the best |