XingKing
12.10.12 | I am proud of you. |
DotEight
12.10.12 | Also means I won't be drinking for a couple weeks because I know I'll end up grabbing a square from someone. |
menawati
12.10.12 | tough times, good luck |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | Keep the faith, listen to more music. |
Omaha
12.10.12 | Take it day by day, man. |
loveisamixtape
12.10.12 | in all of my efforts to completely quit smoking (cigarettes is what i assume you mean), i have failed. but i have been able to go a week or two at a time without them by countering all of my "boredom" breaks with playing guitar/working out/etc. you just have to keep yourself distracted. use how long it's been since your last cig as motivation to make that time longer |
Wolfhorde
12.10.12 | You better be making a clean cut. Known shitloads of people proclaiming they'd stop smoking, until max. one month later they were back at it because they were as consistent as diarrhea.
But yeah, good luck man! |
pmmets07
12.10.12 | chew gum and bring a rubik's cube everywhere to pass the time |
MinusDrummer
12.10.12 | Trying implies the intention of failing. Get yourself some nicotine gum and just quit. I quit 4 years ago and havent looked back. |
AtomicWaste
12.10.12 | Good luck, man. |
loveisamixtape
12.10.12 | nicotine gum doesn't do shit. smoking is more of a mental addiction than it is physical. the gum just tastes awful and makes you want a cigarette more |
DotEight
12.10.12 | I don't get sick or anything from quitting - I've stopped for a week or two at a time due to being on vacation or whatever. I just get irritable, but I don't get headaches and all that crazy shit like other people do. |
fish.
12.10.12 | I'm not going near that shit. I was getting cravings for days after having just one or two cigarettes and I thought fuck that I'm stopping this now. Didn't even like the taste and I think what I liked more than anything was the actual action |
MinusDrummer
12.10.12 | Ummm smoking is very physically addictive. As far as the mental addiction, you have to replace that habit with something else like gum, candy, etc. The nicotine gum is just a means to ween yourself from the physical addiction to experience less withdraws. It may not work for everyone, but it has helped a lot of people including myself. Also, you have to take in account for how long a person has smoked. I smoked for 12 years so quitting cold turkey would have been really horrible for me. |
DotEight
12.10.12 | "Ummm smoking is very physically addictive. As far as the mental addiction, you have to replace that habit with something else like gum, candy, etc. The nicotine gum is just a means to ween yourself from the physical addiction to experience less withdraws. It may not work for everyone, but it has helped a lot of people including myself. Also, you have to take in account for how long a person has smoked. I smoked for 12 years so quitting cold turkey would have been really horrible for me."
Not for me. I have no physical illness or any withdrawl symptoms - other than being grouchy. |
Inveigh
12.10.12 | I've been a smoker for 10+ years and was over a pack a day in my prime. haven't had one since about 5am on Saturday though and I feel fine.
affects people differently I guess |
DrMaximus
12.10.12 | do or do not, there is no try |
menawati
12.10.12 | "smoking is more of a mental addiction than it is physical"
agree with that, lot of it is behavioral like associating times and events with smoking such as after a meal, at your desk, with a beer - if you can recognise that it makes giving up a lot easier
|
MinusDrummer
12.10.12 | Obviously, any chemical effects everyone differently, but the majority of people I have talked to have experienced withdrawls when they stopped smoking. Nicotine gum was a mere suggestion because it worked for me. The fact I smoked for 12 years and have stayed tobacco free for 4 years makes my suggestion credible. Take it or leave it. |
Calc
12.10.12 | its crazy to me that people my age still smoke...i hope you kick the habit though its just money towards an early death |
cliiint
12.10.12 | I've been trying to quit for a month. It's hard. I've stopped smoking real cigarettes, but i still use a ecig so.. still a slave to nicotine which is stupid. |
Applebite
12.10.12 | Hope it goes well for you. |
DotEight
12.10.12 | "I've been trying to quit for a month. It's hard. I've stopped smoking real cigarettes, but i still use a ecig so.. still a slave to nicotine which is stupid."
E-cigs aren't anywhere near as bad as cigarettes, so it's a good step. I've considered them but it's just not the same as a cigarette, and I'd rather just try to quit for good. If I can't - I at least tried. |
MinusDrummer
12.10.12 | its crazy to me that people my age still smoke...i hope you kick the habit though its just money towards an early death
The worst part is, after you reach a certain age, your body loses it's ability to heal itself and your lungs will fail to regenerate. What convinced to me to quit was watching a person push their oxygen supply on wheels outside to smoke LOL |
DotEight
12.10.12 | "The worst part is, after you reach a certain age, your body loses it's ability to heal itself and your lungs will fail to regenerate. What convinced to me to quit was watching a person push their oxygen supply on wheels outside to smoke LOL"
I am in shape and I do exercise whether through running or skating, I know it's counter-productive. But it's better than nothing. |
Wolfhorde
12.10.12 | "its crazy to me that people my age still smoke...i hope you kick the habit though its just money towards an early death"
Do you know how many people on this planet smoke well into their 50s? |
ThunderNeutral21
12.10.12 | yea come on guys he listens to northlane and works out hes healthy as fuq |
menawati
12.10.12 | It's never too late to give up, my gran gave up at age 50 after smoking for 30 years and she had some tests done 15 years later and her lungs were pretty much as fine as someone who never smoked |
MinusDrummer
12.10.12 | Definitely, and you're still at a young enough age that your body can heal itself if you quit. |
DotEight
12.10.12 | People will always smoke. It doesn't matter if it causes death or not, or how educated/uneducated we are on it. We've been smoking since the first signs of civilization and tribes started forming. |
MinusDrummer
12.10.12 | Do you know how many people on this planet smoke well into their 50s?
LOL that isnt saying much considering we have a predicted life span of 78 years. But if you think living until your in your 50's is a good quality of life, by all means, smoke up! |
Wolfhorde
12.10.12 | "It's never too late to give up, my gran gave up at age 50 after smoking for 30 years and she had some tests done 15 years later and her lungs were pretty much as fine as someone who never smoked"
Which is the case if you're lucky/can still do sports/work out/your genes are aren't planning to kick your ass to the curb. Possible? Hell yeah, but assuming this to be general would be a slippery slope. |
menawati
12.10.12 | you dont need to do sports and work out for your lungs to repair themselves |
menawati
12.10.12 | just saying yknow, smoking is fucking terrible for you but there's loads of exaggerated misinformation flying around |
loveisamixtape
12.10.12 | giving up the after-meal cigarette is my biggest struggle |
Dolving999
12.10.12 | Best of luck dude! |
DotEight
12.10.12 | "giving up the after-meal cigarette is my biggest struggle"
That and my waking-up cigarette. |
menawati
12.10.12 | yea it's your mental association with a 'treat' after certain events, maybe you can replace it with after meal wanks |
bakkermaarten007
12.10.12 | Keep it up man, you've just made one of the best decisions in your life. |
Wolfhorde
12.10.12 | "you dont need to do sports and work out for your lungs to repair themselves"
Which is most likely still dependant on your genes. The working out/doing sports was more for fitness, working lungs ain't worth shit if the rest of your body is broken. |
menawati
12.10.12 | well if your genes plan for you to kick the bucket at 50 it won't make much difference whether you smoke zero or 60 a day |
Wolfhorde
12.10.12 | It actually does, in case you're not aware certain addictions are genetically predisposed. Doesn't mean you're gonna get them anyway but you're prone to it. Same goes for shitloads of other stuff, stuff we probably don't even know about yet. |
demigod93
12.10.12 | you can do it man m/ |
Calc
12.10.12 | "Do you know how many people on this planet smoke well into their 50s?"
and do you know how many people die in their 30's because of smoking? everyone is different obviously my point is the risk isn't worth the reward whatever it is. |
menawati
12.10.12 | it's a risk of course but a far more reliable way to kill yourself young is get fat, i see loads of very old people who smoke but no very old fat people |
Calc
12.10.12 | thats not the point here menawati lol. another good way to die young is swimming with sharks with an open wound it doesnt change how bad smoking is for you. |
Hyperion1001
12.10.12 | fuck tobacco smoke weed |
Calc
12.10.12 | the point is just because there are worse things you can do to yourself shouldn't be an excuse to do things that aren't as bad.
get it kinda? i could've worded it better but you guys are smart |
demigod93
12.10.12 | agreed |
Calc
12.10.12 | lol i know you get my point sonic. but yeah smoke weed instead. |
menawati
12.10.12 | "thats not the point here menawati lol. another good way to die young is swimming with sharks with an open wound it doesnt change how bad smoking is for you."
haha, ok but i wasn't trying to say it's not bad for you just that all this overblown stuff about it being a certain death sentence is not true, obesity is a much larger and more reliable killer but it doesnt get condemned as much as smoking |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | How mentally or physically addictive it is varies from person to person. I know people that can smoke regularly for an extended period of time and then just decide they are done and never touch them again. I on the other hand had to get hard core into electronic cigarettes before I could quite for any period of time. Nicroette was a joke, patches lasted a couple of days until I figured out I could smoke through them with no ill effects, Cold turkey never worked and fuck Welbutrin. longest I ever quit with any of them was two months. With the e-gig I have a year and a half under my belt and I've cut my nicotine to less than half of what I started at. The cost is negligible and you're not bothering anyone. |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | "haha, ok but i wasn't trying to say it's not bad for you just that all this overblown stuff about it being a certain death sentence is not true, obesity is a much larger and more reliable killer but it doesnt get condemned as much as smoking"
They go hand in hand and and double down on the same problems. |
Calc
12.10.12 | "obesity is a much larger and more reliable killer but it doesnt get condemned as much as smoking"
I doubt the condemnation part. I dont hear ANYTHING about smoking anymore, but there's always something about how being fat is bad. Its just the times we live in people i guess weren't so fuking fat in the 70-80's when smoking started getting cracked down on. |
menawati
12.10.12 | they aren't the same problems at all, obesity is at epidemic proportions, type 2 diabetes is rife, all due to people being peddled high carb food as healthy and blowing up their insulin resistance, in contrast smoking is well accepted as being bad for you |
loveisamixtape
12.10.12 | weed |
KSK1
12.10.12 | Good luck man. Just think of the money you'll save |
Wolfhorde
12.10.12 | "they aren't the same problems at all, obesity is at epidemic proportions, type 2 diabetes is rife, all due to people being peddled high carb food as healthy and blowing up their insulin resistance, in contrast smoking is well accepted as being bad for you"
Actually, this. Considering that calling people out on stuff like this and confronting them with reality like the notion of maybe riding the bicycle instead of eating the 20th cupcake (hyperbole obviously) is considered an insult and you can actually get into trouble for that. Like, even legal trouble. |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | If you are genetically predisposed to (have a family history of) abnormal weight gain, high cholesterol, Heart Disease and or Type 2 diabetes. Smoking and/or drinking to excess will exacerbate all above issues. If you don't then you just have to worry about all the other shit they do to your body instead. That is why some peopl can smoke and live to 100 and others can't. It's all dependent on what you rolled in the genetics lotto. |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | and weed |
Shuyin
12.10.12 | dont try, just do it |
Calc
12.10.12 | sonic is raising good points. |
Wolfhorde
12.10.12 | Well, genetical predispositions towards gaining weigh/high cholersterol (although not 100% sure about the latter) is mostly not that extreme or can be countered whereas some rather rare sicknesses can make it extremely hard to counter. As for heart disease and type 2 diabetes, as we should know by now it doesn't necessarily have to do with your weight. (see people with thyroid malfunctions and shit that get fucked by stuff like that)
But yeah, if you have some or one of those it definitely doesn't make it any better. |
cliiint
12.10.12 | "E-cigs aren't anywhere near as bad as cigarettes, so it's a good step. I've considered them but it's just not the same as a cigarette, and I'd rather just try to quit for good. If I can't - I at least tried."
yeah im glad i stopped smoking for sure, i feel a lot better. but i still think there's some nasty shit in these ecigs besides the nicotine |
Hyperion1001
12.10.12 | smoke weed n stop bein fat |
Calc
12.10.12 | dont smoke and eat healthy and your body will thank you by not being repulsive to women. |
cliiint
12.10.12 | i stoppped being fat when i didn't smoke weed |
Calc
12.10.12 | for the most part. |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | "i still think there's some nasty shit in these ecigs besides the nicotine"
generally speaking no but there have been some manufacturers (mostly from china) that have some pretty
bad shit in their formula. If you are buying a brand that is mixed by the retailer and they are in-
country it should be fine. The recipe is simple food grade glycerin, concentrated nicotine and
flavoring. |
Uranium
12.10.12 | quit pussy. i smoked for 6 years. a pack a day for the last year and two packs if i ended up drinking.
it's mind over matter. just do it!!! |
cliiint
12.10.12 | "dont smoke and eat healthy and your body will thank you by not being repulsive to women."
thats the kind of thing that after i read it i'll think about it occasionally for a few years because it was written so well.
it's wrong tho, because ive smoked and eat dog shit daily and still bitches want my repulsive body |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | It's because you are the Cliiint Commander. |
Calc
12.10.12 | having a vibrating cock made outta the smoothest silk isnt fair though. |
menawati
12.10.12 | haha |
cliiint
12.10.12 | the key is to avoid direct contact with the cliiint.
"The recipe is simple food grade glycerin, concentrated nicotine and flavoring"
well, my issue is with what's going on in the atomizer.. being completely uneducated about the whole process, not the nicotine solution. |
Uranium
12.10.12 | it's weird to think people are addicted to mini sticks with filters |
FigNewtns
12.10.12 | good luck, been there failed that |
Jash
12.10.12 | I smoked for a few years and always wanted to quit but any time I tried I'd fall back into so easily, until I met my current girlfriend who really motivated me to stay quit and aside from having a few smokes when I'm flying on some MDMA I haven't smoked or bought packs in a year and a half. I do smoke weed though which helped a lot |
OnlyAnchors
12.10.12 | also, weed. |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | "well, my issue is with what's going on in the atomizer.. being completely uneducated about the whole process, not the nicotine solution."
Not to worry, they've been making atomizers for decades if not centuries for various applications. Same as anything else if someone makes a piece of shit you have a problem but if you're getting a quality product you should be fine. |
ITsHxCTOASTER
12.10.12 | Gonna be controversial here and say weed is overrrrrrateeeeeed
So you don't have to smoke that either |
Recspecs
12.10.12 | What an un-Mezz thing for you to say toaster!! |
Recspecs
12.10.12 | And yeah good luck dude, day by day. |
SeaAnemone
12.10.12 | Not to sound like a dick but I never understood how people get so hooked on smoking (and I'm fairly susceptible to addiction gene-wise)... I mean personally I enjoy a cigarette when I'm drinking or after a long day at work maybe once-a-week three-times-a-week at most depending on how many times I go out... like I had one last night as well as a nice cigar but I have no desire to smoke all the time, oh well. Good on you for making a positive decision though. |
wacknizzle
12.10.12 | That's a bummer @Dot, I wish I never started. I'll probably try n quit in a year or two hopefully . |
SeaAnemone
12.10.12 | "That's a bummer @Dot, I wish I never started. I'll probably try n quit in a year or two hopefully."
like what the fuck?
again, not trying to be confrontational I just legit don't understand...
if it's a decision you want to make that only requires inaction why not just [i]try[/i] to start now, instead of procrastinating... don't get me wrong I procrastinate things all the time but this requires [i]not[/i] doing something |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | Just a different level of addiction to this particular substance Sea. You obviously are incapable of fully understanding how bad this can be for some people. I smoked for 21 years and trust me it doesn't get easier. |
Recspecs
12.10.12 | I'm with you on that Sea. |
andcas
12.10.12 | I switched to e-cigs and am slowly weaning off the nicotine. |
SeaAnemone
12.10.12 | omni I've had family addicted to cigs, been around it all my life... my grandmother smoked for a good 60 years or so |
SeaAnemone
12.10.12 | and if it "doesn't get any easier" then what's the point in postponing trying to quit, hence the point of my post? |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | I'm going on what you posted Eric don't get so defensive. It's different for everyone. |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | I'd say my attempts at quitting were spread out over an 8 or 9 year period and it wasn't until I had a child that I saw any reason to make it stick? So I guess personality plays a big part but it doesn't take a brain scientist to figure that one out. I wish I had found a good enough reason to quit sooner. |
andcas
12.10.12 | have you ever been addicted to cigarettes sea? |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | Part of smoking for some people has to do with a psychological reason to punish ones self. It helps to
come to terms with your demons as well which tends to come with age. |
Melons
12.10.12 | If you're having trouble, every time you pick up a cig, just think of Chevy Chase in a hottub having a threesome with your two best friends. |
cirq
12.10.12 | ecig |
SeaAnemone
12.10.12 | omni and andcas: yeah seriously please don't get offended I totally don't mean to get all condescending or uppity like I said I just legit don't understand many of the impulses / thought processes behind it
and no andcas obviously I haven't == lack of understanding
"Part of smoking for some people has to do with a psychological reason to punish ones self."
and that sounds a little far-fetched but okay |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | I understand your point I was just trying to answer your question Eric. :-) |
andcas
12.10.12 | "and no andcas obviously I haven't"
then you aren't in a position to talk. |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | "and that sounds a little far-fetched but okay"
It's a personal belief, I'm not aware of anyone ever having done a paper on it but I've discussed it with people and some disagree like your self but some (maybe those who have been there) think it's brilliant. The only reason to point it out is for someone who happens to have that little quirk and that can't quit smoking to get another insight as to why it is so hard for them to quit. It gives them another tool in the long battle which is essentially with ones self. |
SeaAnemone
12.10.12 | "then you aren't in a position to talk."
are you serious? this is absurd haha
how far do you extend this little philosophy of yours? what else can't someone talk about because they haven't personally experienced the extremities and negative side effects of it? |
SeaAnemone
12.10.12 | "It's a personal belief..."
yeah thank you for the explanation and thank you for justifying it with this, that makes more sense now
I mean I definitely think it's interesting but from personal experience it's much more the whole "peer influence" thing that breeds smokers |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | I often say I'm one of the few people who will out and out say I started smoking to be cool. If only I had known in advance that I am genetically predisposed to addition. Oh well lesson learned moving on. |
omnipanzer
12.10.12 | Oh and I'm not implying that that would be a reason to start just a reason to continue the personal punishment. Again I'm attempting to answer your original question as you seemed legitimately curious. |
andcas
12.10.12 | "are you serious? this is absurd haha
how far do you extend this little philosophy of yours? what else can't someone talk about because they haven't personally experienced the extremities and negative side effects of it?"
how are you gonna downplay how badly nicotine can be addictive when you've never even been hooked on it. it's the equivalent of me going up to a heroin addict , having never done it, and being like "hey dude, just fucking quit, what's the big deal?" |
SeaAnemone
12.10.12 | "how are you gonna downplay how badly nicotine can be addictive when you've never even been hooked on it. it's the equivalent of me going up to a heroin addict , having never done it, and being like "hey dude, just fucking quit, what's the big deal?""
dude you can't talk about heroin like that you've never done it
but are you really suggesting one can't have an opinion on an addictive substance unless one's been addicted to it? I've been smoking cigarettes on-and-off for like 11 months... what's your criteria for having been addicted to something? I just find it appalling that your reasoning is so close-minded haha
and re: your heroin comparison... that's not fair at all... would you suggest politely over the internet to a heroin addict that maybe they should stop, while admitting that you don't personally know the effects of heroin addiction but have some secondhand knowledge of them?
that sounds a little more accurate and a little more fair to what I said |
Omaha
12.10.12 | Ooh, have to tune in for this one. |
cliiint
12.10.12 | I can see Sea's perspective, i was a drunk smoker for years and never once thought about a having a sober cigarette... but man once you experience a little menthol with coffee on a cold morning, or roll down your window on the way home from work listening to your favorite song... shit son its hard to go back. |
andcas
12.10.12 | "but are you really suggesting one can't have an opinion on an addictive substance unless one's been addicted to it?"
you can have an opinion all you want but it'll be a ill-informed one having never walked a mile in their shoes therefore it being impossible to fully understand their inner turmoil. |
SeaAnemone
12.10.12 | cliiint: yeah know whatcha mean, when I lived in Italy I embraced the whole cig thing and loved a hand-rolled one in the morning after my espresso / loleuros
andcas: dude I opened up the discussion by admitting twice that I don't "fully understand their inner turmoil" so I don't know what you're getting at there and you were just like YEAH WELL YOU CANT and you still haven't given me any reason to believe my suggestions are ill-informed |
andcas
12.10.12 | I didn't read the whole thread. I only saw the comment I responded to. my bad. as far as your other opinions, they are
assumptions without evidence. |
bach
12.10.12 | I can't fathom trying to curb an addiction like nicotine. If you go through with it, mad respect. |
Jash
12.10.12 | andcas gettin real deep |
Trebor17
12.10.12 | Just do it, you just don't buy them anymore, not that hard |
xStayxTruex
12.10.12 | Just quit you pussy. |
Trebor17
12.10.12 | The best way to quit smoking is to never be dumb enough to start in the first place
Get on my level and build a time machine and kick your former self in the nards |
xStayxTruex
12.10.12 | There ya go. |
Xenophanes
12.10.12 | actually heroin is more addictive than nicotine, but not by a whole lot. Nicotine is one of the more addictive things out there. |
Xenophanes
12.10.12 | "Just quit you pussy. "
said the straight edge cunt |
xStayxTruex
12.10.12 | You just made me cry. |
Uranium
12.10.12 | quitting was the hardest but best decision i ever made |
Kyyzen
12.11.12 | It's true... the best way to avoid a habit is to not try it in the first place... Haven't ever smoked anything Xp (inb4 haters)... It's good that you want to quit though =) it's a good decision. |
andcas
12.11.12 | "andcas gettin real deep" I'm gettin real iNTRiKeT. |
Jash
12.11.12 | Oh man, you really got me there bro sick burn |
Spec
12.11.12 | Smoking looks cool. Keep doing it. |
andcas
12.11.12 | I wasn't trying to get you. it was just a pun set up way too easy to pass up. |
NastyCrab
12.17.12 | If you have the time, there are usually free supportive/educational classes that can help someone quit. Took a class on tobacco and research shows the best approach is pharmacotherapy (gum/patch/etc) and come kind of supportive counseling. Really wish you the best man, good luck and remember relapse does not equal failure. |
mybeard
12.17.12 | hey man, my brother-in-law stopped that stuff after like 15 years of smoking and he's been absolutely clean for 2 years. he did it through a process. my grandma started when she was 14 and 40 years later, on her birthday, just quit cold turkey. if you have the mind set to do it you definitely can. just get on sputnik and listen to music. i'm sure that'll help a lot. |
DotEight
12.17.12 | I haven't smoked in 8 days. Woot. |
mybeard
12.17.12 | great start brother, keep up the good work. also an engagement ring is a pretty dang amazing reason to quit haha. |
drewcordova
12.17.12 | Just do your best to avoid the triggers. I've tried to quit chewing for 5 years, but I keep going back. Good luck. |
