Wu-Tang Clan
Wu-Tang Forever


4.0
excellent

Review

by Fort23 USER (36 Reviews)
September 5th, 2007 | 186 replies


Release Date: 1997 | Tracklist

Review Summary: An overlooked double Album, that proves more depth to group than before.

Double albums by Hip-Hop artists are generally a disappointing affair. Talented MCs stuff two discs worth of material, with crappy 10 second guest spots, filler, and pointless skits, often burying away the real gems. Outkast has done a pretty good job at putting out double/long albums that can be considered gems. But artists like 2pac, Nas, and even the great Schooly D released lengthy, over indulgent albums that could probably not be stomached in one listen. In fact the only double hip hop album that totally exceeded my expectations, is the Wu-Tang clan's Wu-Tang Forever.

Arising from the smoke of their East-coast Hip Hop classic, Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers), with a soul-based, poetic double disc album might seem like a risky stretch. But in the three years between their debut was a string of classic solo albums such as Raekwon's Mafioso classic, "Only Built for Cuban Linx", Ghostface Killah's "Ironman", the GZA's masterful "Liquid Swords", and Ol' Dirty Bastard's best work, "Return to the 36 Chambers". These records were scattered with evidence of what the band would achieve on this album.

The first thing to notice, is the different direction in the lyrics. Almost every MC had grown considerably since Enter the Wu-Tang, and has expanded upon their sound, and the maturity is shown extensively throughout the two discs. The lyrics are confident, and show a much more poetic side to the group than seen previously. Each MC opens up their vocabulary, using metaphors, but still embracing street slang. The first verse of "Reunited" shows the mighty GZA rapping "Struck a match to the underground/industry ignited/from metaphorical parables to fertilize the Earth/Wicked niggaz come, try to burglarize the turf/Scattin off soft-ass beats them niggaz rap happily" confidently, but with a free feel as if the words simply fell out of his mouth. The Inspectah Deck continues with his technical rhymes, despite embracing their new found style. Metaphors jump in, when he raps "I bomb atomically, Socrates' philosophies and hypothesis can't define how I be droppin these mockeries, lyrically perform armed robbery Flee with the lottery possibly they spotted me/Battle-scarred shogunexplosion when my pen hits tremendousultra-violet shine blind forensics" on the posse cut, "Triumph". Ghostface Killah and Raekwon continue to keep high energy, and intense rhymes while adapting, and they sync in perfectly with their new lyrics. Speaking of vocal stylings, maturity is seen extensively with in the collective. Musical mastermind, the RZA abandoned his hardcore style of rapping, and replaced it with a equally passionate, but calmer style that is seen best on the near perfect "Severe Punishment" ("Fabulous establishment metabolism/Blackfoot Indian Cherokee started out smaller than amphibian/Then grew to a physical body with five meridians"). The Method Man's deep voice has less off beat rhythm and more focuss, especially when he raps on the aforementioned Triumph "As the world turns, I spread like germsBless the globe with the pestilence, the hard-headed never learn/It's my testament to those burned/Play my position in the game of life/standin firm"

One of the biggest additions to the group is the inclusion of the previously rarely seen MCs, U-God, and Masta Killah, as well as including Cappadona on five tracks. U-God's deep flow style was only used twice on their previous record, but his voice suites these lyrics perfectly and his flow is pronounced clearly with rhymes like "Alphabet run/construction voice might blow/Tap dance swelling Hemingway novel model/For a breather dirty reefer hide your bottle". Masta Killah owes much debt to the GZA, and his cool, laid back, yet still rather technical style, is highly remiscent of the GZA' style on tracks like the "Deadly Melody" where he raps "Mother***ers halt, when my Colt/start stompin/Thunder, strikes your land with a jolt/Your stamina level is lowlike currents from the volts of relentless punishment/that multiplies". Cappadona is actually one of my favorite MCs of the Wu-Tang, and on "Little Ghetto Boys", he takes one of the stand-out lines "When we not workin we hardly be around/Yeah see the light, right now we could fight/You not a real brother you just a fake type/that get on the mic then, throw your cliche/Half the East coast soundin just like Rae/If you a Gambino, give credit to the flow/If you not a part of this kid act like you know". It should be noted that since Cappadona was simply a guest on the record, his style is not as remiscent of the other MCs, but more prophetic and journalistic.

Production wise, the RZA totally grew from the gritty, simple beats that made up 36 Chambers, and emphasizes on a whole new instrumentation and clear, clean and fully intricate prodction. The occasional piano playing that was used on 36 Chambers was bumped up and is used frequently, often drowining away the distant drum beats. Not only that, but Viola, and a entire assortment of string samples are frequently used, and unlike many uses of strings in Hip-Hop, they actually can be heard with soul. The ending of Reunited is seen with a mess of strings clashed together in a soulful double solo. With this, the samples sound easily like real instruments and create an all around organic feel, which is only helped by the aforementioned clean production and smooth keyboards. Tracks like "For Heaven's Sake" create a very cinematic style with the keyboards and samples working together, creating a sound reminiscent of songs on Raekwon's Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, and is only pushed further with the clean slate of production and boom box beat. To further a soulesque vibe, back-up singers like Tekitha and Roxxane belt out some exceptional vocals, though they are not as prominent as they could be on the two discs, which is somewhat disappointing. The whole sound works effectively on almost every track. However, not all tracks embrace it. Ol' Dirty Bastard's solo track, "Dog ***" has a old school styled production to it, but not in the dark way, that was Enter the Wu-Tang.

The biggest disappointment of Wu-Tang Forever, however, is the lack of the erratic Ol' Dirty Bastard. Because of frequent Jail time, his contributions were less frequent. And while he preforms one of the only four solo tracks, his sing song style is highly absent from the two disc set. His gritty, yet fun verse is only featured on three tracks, and a few spoken word intros. The clean production adds a bit more light to the record, but the album does not seem nearly as fun without Ol' Dirty.

As a whole Wu-Tang Forever embraces production matters with much cleaner instrumentals and all around engineering. The mechanics of the record, however, are still lead by the lyricsm, and almost all nine MCs contribute and grow throughout the record confidently. Surprisingly, the record hasn’t met up with the popularity that Enter the Wu-Tang has; the rugged atmosphere that is Enter the Wu-tang, overcomes this cleanly recorded effort.



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Fort23
September 5th 2007


3774 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I was scared to post this. Whatever.

pixiesfanyo
September 5th 2007


1223 Comments


Nowhere near a 4.5.

36 Chambers is a 4.5

This is either a 2.5 or a 3

Also, I don't think you can really bash Dirty for being in and out of jail at the time.This Message Edited On 09.05.07

Fort23
September 5th 2007


3774 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

36 chambers is also a 4.5 for me. though now that I think of it, this more like a 4.



P.S. I edited it a bit about Dirty. I wasn't realy bashing him, just complaining a bit.This Message Edited On 09.05.07

blackmilk
September 5th 2007


583 Comments


free rhymed

what

do you know what free verse is

dub sean
September 5th 2007


1011 Comments


Wu-Tang we always in the spotlight
Gettin paper, Every night is hot night!!!



pulseczar
September 5th 2007


2385 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I agree with the rating, but I definitely like the album for different reasons. I don't think any MC on the record actually changed their style, but they definitely were expanding on things experimented with on the solo albums that preceded it. ODB's appearances on the record are mostly disappointing, and U-God is surprisingly better than usual (besides Black Shampoo). And Cappadonna is waaaaaack.

Fort23
September 5th 2007


3774 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Would it be better if I trimmed it down?

lunchforthesky
September 6th 2007


1039 Comments


good review.

descendents1
September 14th 2007


702 Comments


you're def getting better, fort, because maaaaannn before...

redith1982
November 13th 2007


12 Comments


some of you people take this rating stuff WAY TOO seriously. How cares if this guy thinks the album is worth a 4.5, its his opinion. I think that it is WACK that you can only have a sertain percentage of 5 ratings. If i want to rate an album a 5, i should damn well better be able to. This web site is controlled by rating Nazi's.

pulseczar
November 13th 2007


2385 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Well, then you should be glad to know that the system to prevent people from rating things a 5 doesn't actually work. But it's not a "rating Nazi" thing, it's the fact that a lot of people join the site and rate everything they think is either good or bad a 5 or 1, respectively. It's stupid.



edit: jewis you beat meThis Message Edited On 11.12.07

redith1982
November 17th 2007


12 Comments


I just like getting you people all worked. Clearly I was talking about the one person who stated anything about ratings. I was just saying that if a person wants to rate the album a 4.5 thats his or hers opinion, and for someone else to say that his or hers rating is WRONG that is in its self wrong. And you proved my point that people take this shit way too seriously. It's a website people, not life.
Thank you.

pulseczar
November 17th 2007


2385 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I just like getting you people all worked. Clearly I was talking about the one person who stated anything about ratings. I was just saying that if a person wants to rate the album a 4.5 thats his or hers opinion, and for someone else to say that his or hers rating is WRONG that is in its self wrong. And you proved my point that people take this **** way too seriously. It's a website people, not life.



Thank you.


You're the one getting defensive and opinionated over nothing. I really don't care what people rate albums, but it's most likely the owner of Sputnik's best interest to try to keep ratings as credible as possible, which is impossible anyway to an extent.

redith1982
November 18th 2007


12 Comments


thank you

MrKite
December 9th 2007


5020 Comments


This is a paradox.

xXx:lol:xXx

ingenting
January 31st 2008


5 Comments


Underrated critically, overrated commercially and by the less obsessive Wu-Tang fans. The production on this album was a disappointment - way too MIDI and compressed sounding. Certain tracks are grimy for sure ("Triumph", "Reunited", "Duck Seazon", "Older Gods"), but it certainly didn't live up to some of the solo albums that preceeded it.

Good review overall, I don't see why people are ragging on you. Then again, I'm a n00b, so whatever.

paullikesu
October 1st 2008


1 Comments


Wu-Tang we always in the spotlight

Gettin paper, Every night is hot night!!!


What song is this? What is it Called?

LifeInABox
November 28th 2008


3709 Comments


You forgot Method Man Tical in that opening paragraph about solo albums

kygermo
January 13th 2009


1007 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I remember my older brother bought this the day it came out way back in 97, and I kept taking it from him because I wanted to listen to it so bad. I definitely dig this album, and its strengths is the actual members of the Wu. Since there are so many, they keep it interesting. There is a shit load of filler, though. Great record.

windpromoteshate
March 23rd 2009


179 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

My flash drive is made by Toshiba, bro.



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