The Grouch and Eligh
The Tortoise and The Crow


4.0
excellent

Review

by LambsBread USER (32 Reviews)
May 27th, 2014 | 13 replies


Release Date: 2014 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Here come some brothas I know for sure can rap!

The Tortoise and The Crow is a triple disc hip hop album created by The Grouch and Eligh, former members of the hip hop group Living Legends. The album includes one CD featuring The Grouch and Eligh, one with just The Grouch, and one with just Eligh. This album’s production is very smooth for a rap album. Preferring high soothing vocals and samples, this album sets a jazzy mood that is only setback by its hooks. The first disc of the CD (featuring both Eligh and The Grouch) is a major letdown compared to the last two discs. The hooks and songs on the first disc all have a feel of being made on the spot. The hooks are so basic (“Say Eligh! Say Grouch! X3) that they add nothing to the songs except length, while destroying the hardcore hip hop vibe the CD would otherwise have.

If there is one thing this album shows, it is that The Grouch and Eligh are better making music on their own than as a duo. Their style’s have grown too different since the days of being in Living Legends, and their makeshift attempt to make this style cohesive with wildly out of place hooks is just plain awful. Eligh’s third portion of the album is quite impressive and a great follow up to his last solo LP Grey Crow . Starting out the first three tracks as purely instrumental, the album sets a serene mood that makes Eligh’s lyrics both mentally stimulating and relaxing. The bad hooks are almost nonexistent on this portion of the album, making this portion of the album the highlight of Tortoise and the Crow . “My God Song” features stellar production and sampling to create a divine like atmosphere that doesn’t sound overdone. “A Different Way” features a God like verse from both Eligh and the featured guest rapper Ellay Khule. The Grouch's solo portion of the album is also excellent, here the beats slow down and mesh immeasurably better with his vocals than they did on the first disc where he was forced to try to keep up with Eligh's machine gun flow. The Grouch’s, and especially Eligh’s, style are not easily accessible and usually require multiple listens before the songs become catchy and enjoyable. Eligh’s flow is so rapid that it is hard to follow his rhyme patterns and lyrics until you are much more familiar with the songs.

The Tortoise and the Crow has certain tracks that offer more than anything you will hear out of modern day hip hop. The shame is that they carelessly made such a lengthy album for the hell of making one, because this album could have been condensed into a hip hop classic. The Tortoise and the Crow is recommended to anyone familiar with The Grouch and/or Eligh, and people who don’t mind extensive amounts of instrumentals and singing in hip hop (who will likely love this album for it's unique blending of futuristic music, jazz and hip hop). If the idea of a triple disc hip hop album sounds upsetting, just skip the first disc altogether, that's what Eligh and The Grouch should have done themselves.



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LambsBread
May 27th 2014


6522 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Album ranges from classic (see "God Song" and "A Different Way") to pure trash ("Hella Fresh").



First disc is inconsistent, second two are much much better.

EaglesBecomeVultures
May 27th 2014


5563 Comments


i used to listen to these guys, betcha this is mega-corny tho

LambsBread
May 27th 2014


6522 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

A lot of this is undeniably awesome, really the only problem are the bad hooks which 9/10 times are on the first disc.

LambsBread
May 27th 2014


6522 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

The Grouch's solo part of this is actually a lot better than I remembered

EaglesBecomeVultures
May 27th 2014


5563 Comments


that's why most backpack rap sucks, none of those dudes can write a hook, at all

LambsBread
May 28th 2014


6522 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I thought the hooks on Grey Crow were bad too but they eventually grew to be tolerable.



I shoulda listened to this more before I reviewed it, The Grouch cd is so much better than I originally thought and yeah garden is fuckin awesome.



LambsBread
September 20th 2014


6522 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah this is album of the year, probably need to bump this up to 4.5 but I never listen to the first

CD really

EaglesBecomeVultures
September 20th 2014


5563 Comments


AOTY

Lord(e)Po)))ts
December 18th 2014


70239 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

this is easily one of the best things to happen to hip-hop this year tbh

Lord(e)Po)))ts
December 18th 2014


70239 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

the eligh disc at least, the other 2 not as much

LambsBread
December 18th 2014


6522 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah I have no idea why this doesn't have more ratings. 7?



I love the Grouch CD, took a while to grow on me though, first CD should of been scrapped tbh



you guys should definitely check out The Grouch x Eligh x Cunninglynguists - WInterfire EP, its free on bandcamp

Lord(e)Po)))ts
December 18th 2014


70239 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i will do that



honestly i wish they released the 3 discs separately. the Eligh solo disc would easily be a 4.5 for me but the Grouch and Grouch + Eligh discs are both just like 3.5's maybe

LambsBread
December 19th 2014


6522 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It's short, but damn, even better than this album honestly, cunninlynguists production fits them

perfectly.



i'd say you gotta spin the Grouch CD more if you think its even close to that first CD/ excuse for

an album. I might like it even more than Eligh's.





My Garden

The Posse

Good Man

My Best Teacher

Corey's Angels



are my favorite tracks in order





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