Alter Bridge One Day Remains
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splashfreak
August 19th 2004



196 Comments


EVERYONE SHUT THE **** UP AND LISTEN TO THE ALBUM AND THEN TALK ABOUT IT. IN THIS THREAD THE THREADSTARTER AND I AND MAYBE ONE OTHER WHOLE ALBUM!!!!!!! so listen to it.....sorry about the caps but its the only way i know how to yell on here. stop basing your opinion on an album based on the first RADIO VERSION single and nothing else....Open Your Eyes is probably one of the lesser songs on the album
by the way...so far i agree 100% with the threadstarter or whoever that splash guy is


hey, thanks for the support. Yeah, I wish more people would listen to the album, and I wish more people would like fast solos...

My ears are ringing from all of the shouting, though ;-)

darkwhite
August 22nd 2004



11 Comments


am i the only one in here who thinks that people should not reply to a review unless they have listened to AT LEAST half the songs on the album? and splash .... no prob...im sick of all these deusch bags who think that just cause tremonti was in a band with stapp that nothing he does will ever be good (it is sad that he is associated with him, i wish everyone would FORGET about creed and imagine alterbridge is just 4 guys who are new in the music idustry....the only way to get past the whole stapp mishap)

splashfreak
August 24th 2004



196 Comments


am i the only one in here who thinks that people should not reply to a review unless they have listened to AT LEAST half the songs on the album? and splash .... no prob...im sick of all these deusch bags who think that just cause tremonti was in a band with stapp that nothing he does will ever be good (it is sad that he is associated with him, i wish everyone would FORGET about creed and imagine alterbridge is just 4 guys who are new in the music idustry....the only way to get past the whole stapp mishap)


Well, I pretty much agree with that. I don't think ALL these guys are idiots, or anything, though...

Iai
Emeritus
August 24th 2004



3553 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

My only comment on this album, is that I wish Tremonti would have gone through with his other planned project. Jamey Jasta singing, and I can't remember the drummer, but I remember it being someone good. Hah, I found out about that when I bought a Tremonti SE, not having a CLUE who Mark Tremonti was. Then I found out he was in Creed, and felt really **** about myself. So I clung to that hope.....

....for that reason I'll check out Alter Bridge. Then I might be able to say 'Tremonti's the guitarist from Alter Bridge' and not feel ashamed.

splashfreak
August 24th 2004



196 Comments


Is this heavier than creed or almost the same as creed?


DEFINITELY heavier.

darkwhite
August 24th 2004



11 Comments


this album isnt like creed and is just all chord patterns with a solo an album( not a very good one at that) and a riff here and there. splash is there even a song on the album (besides in loving memory) that doesnt have a solo or a sweet riff? actually in loving memory has a cool sound to it...sorta like a riff

splashfreak
August 24th 2004



196 Comments


this album isnt like creed and is just all chord patterns with a solo an album( not a very good one at that) and a riff here and there. splash is there even a song on the album (besides in loving memory) that doesnt have a solo or a sweet riff? actually in loving memory has a cool sound to it...sorta like a riff


Well, I actually LOVE in loving memory, but...

Anyway, yeah there is a solo in most songs, and there is a sweet riff in all the songs...

SSSnake
August 24th 2004



8 Comments


Ok after listening to **** loads of music over the years and owning more than 500 albums spread out over the past 40 years I must say this is one of the strongest mainstream releases EVER. I was a little doubtful at first but this album has captivated me with its diversity and strenght. Every song is well crafted and has an incredible feeling. Plus when you listen to the album you will not believe that these are the former Creed guys. Myles (the new singer) soars above all of the others with great raw ability and control, and he can replicated live unlike most singers these days. Tremonti has come out to show that he is one of the best mainstream guitarists in the past 10 years. Everything he does is well written and jumps from one part to another flawlessly. Brian and Flip have come into there own and show off what they are really capable of. Its saddening that we didnt see this with Creed, but this new band is definately a blessing to the business. People may speak of Velvet Revolver and AudioSlave being some of those great new supergroups but AB blows them outta the water! In my opinion these guys will be leading the way for the future.

splashfreak
August 24th 2004



196 Comments


Ok after listening to **** loads of music over the years and owning more than 500 albums spread out over the past 40 years I must say this is one of the strongest mainstream releases EVER. I was a little doubtful at first but this album has captivated me with its diversity and strenght. Every song is well crafted and has an incredible feeling. Plus when you listen to the album you will not believe that these are the former Creed guys. Myles (the new singer) soars above all of the others with great raw ability and control, and he can replicated live unlike most singers these days. Tremonti has come out to show that he is one of the best mainstream guitarists in the past 10 years. Everything he does is well written and jumps from one part to another flawlessly. Brian and Flip have come into there own and show off what they are really capable of. Its saddening that we didnt see this with Creed, but this new band is definately a blessing to the business. People may speak of Velvet Revolver and AudioSlave being some of those great new supergroups but AB blows them outta the water! In my opinion these guys will be leading the way for the future.


That's it. Enough people agree with me, I'm changing the rating back to five.

Everything you just said is what I have been saying all along. This album blows mainstream music AWAY. That is worthy of a 5/5.

SSSnake
August 24th 2004



8 Comments


For those who have a problem with Myles read this


Ok, this rant has been boiling within me for a couple of weeks now. I've been hearing a fair amount of negativity and complaining (mostly from other sites) about Myles' voice and how it doesn't fit this sort of rock music. We kind of had a thread like this a couple of weeks ago, but it was deleted, the reason being, I would imagine, some of the language became virulently invective and hostile, so the mods probably thought it best to err on the side of caution and delete it. I will accept some blame on that, because the thread was started by someone complaining about Myles' "whiny" voice, so, naturally, I came to the defense (along with others) with a TOTALLY ironic comment about how guys like Myles, Robert Plant, Geoff Tate, Rob Halford, etc, (you know, rock singers with phenomenal range) how they all suck and cannot sing rock. I even ended it with a "PS: All of the above was BS". But, a couple of people didn't read the last part, and they were getting a bit irascible and the thread took a dive for the worse. This was unfortunate, as, I feel this subject needs to be addressed. Myles Kennedy has an incredible old school voice, and, put in the proper context, his voice might not seem such a strange companion with Mark's music.

In case I forget, I would like to applaud Mark for making a very bold and progressive choice by choosing Myles, because Mark must have known that this would be a tough transition, and he must have had a lot of confidence in their music to present something that is significantly different than what Clear Channel and the like are cranking out like soda cans. Mark must also have a lot of faith in the fans and our ability to retain an open mind. With this freshman effort, in a business that insults our collective intelligence on a daily basis, Mark and company have both challenged us and paid us the ultimate complement, and, since we're not in my favorite thread, I'll go ahead and say it: Mark rules.

Ok, *ahem* so does Myles' voice fit with rock music? Of course it does, but, since no one asked me anyway, let's examine the query more objectively and take a look from an historical perspective.

In the late '60s and early to mid 70s(ish), this is when rock music began to get "harder", as the guitarist like Jimi Hendrix , Jimmy Page, Tony Iommi, Tommy Bolin, Richie Blackmore, Pete Townshend, Joe Perry, etc...the progenitors of rock music and, by way of rock, metal. Now, the NATURAL complement to guitarists of this caliber were vocalists with ranges of equal caliber. In a time when rock music was blossoming, nay, EXPLODING, these vocalists would set the standard in rock. We would have Robert Plant, Geddy Lee, Jon Anderson, Glenn Hughes, Ian Gillan, Steve Walsh, Steve Winwood, Steven Tyler, Tommy Shaw, Freddie Mercury, Dio, and the list could go on, I'm sure, and feel free to let me know who I left out. Point is: a singer with range and rock music were FAR from mutually exclusive.

(which, it is always at this point that, when I hear someone complain of Myles' "whining voice", I think to myself, "Then this person is obviously not a Zeppelin fan, cos, when it comes to a 'whine', Plant makes Myles sound like Tom Waits." Also, by the way, Tom Waits and Robert Plant are both awesome, but I digress...)

Now, also, at this same point in time, great singers were flourishing in the R&B realm (which, really, was the great thing about radio in the 70s, a single station would go from Marvin Gaye to Yes, but, yeah, those days are gone...anyway...). Singers like Stevie Wonder, Philip Bailey, Maurice White, Marvin Gaye, the Reverand Al Green, etc...Motown was exploding as well. (Point of trivia: September of 1971, the month I was born, top of the r&b charts was "Inner City Blues" by Marvin Gaye. And which totally superlative lead singer of Alter Bridge did a cover of that song? Believe it, Myles F'n Kennedy!)

Ok, now, in the 80s is when the genres of music really splintered, as you had pop, r&b, new wave, rock, hard rock, and the beginnings of "heavy metal", I won't really go into just how many sub genres there are, because, frankly, I don't know them all, as I tend to ignore those sorts of labels these days. In any case, by 1984, hard rock had, not one, not two, but at least 3 different guys that took vocal range to the next level: Rob Halford, Bruce Dickenson, and Geoff Tate (who would be label in later years as the Three Tremors). Other vocalists in rock that had the range inspired, or encouraged, by those vocalists of the 70s would be Steve Perry, Prince, Bono , and, again, the list could go on, feel free to chime in.

Now, here's where things get tricky. Along comes the 90s...(and keep in mind that the dates are general, as I'm about to include Soundgarden in the 90s when, in point of fact, Louder Than Love was released in 1989 and that wasn't even their first album, just the first one I heard...). Now, the singers that flourished in this era (and a few of them still are) were singers that concentrated less on range, as their primary focus was the emotion conveyed and the songwriting. Now, I'm not saying that you can't have both (as all of those listed above do, and do indeed...), but, the late 80s would have a few vocalists, and I'll not name names (but, hey, you guys feel free to), who managed to score some fame, and they may have had range, but had very little emotional content and scant, if that, songwriting capability, so, part of the natural evolution of rock would necessitate the emergence of vocalists emphasizing songwriting and emotional content. And the vocalists that would lead this charge would be Eddie Vedder, Layne Staley, Scott Weiland, Kurt Cobain, Rob Zombie, and Billy Corgan. Now, the oddball of this crew I saved for last: Chris Cornell, he had it all, but, as all rules have the exception, so was Chris.

Now, from this point further, the vocalists with the range were regulated to the genre of progressive rock (Labrie of Dream Theater or Alder of Fates Warning), r&b, or remained on the fringes of rock, such as Jeff Buckley, who never enjoyed extraordinarily lucrative success, but scored a loyal fan base and critical acclaim. In any case, they would not be considered welcome in the realm of modern rock by radio. Also, you have guys like Thornley whose band Big Wreck was regulated to "neo prog" even though I just heard a lot of 70s rock in there...but, then, 70s rock like Zeppelin and Sabbath had progressive tendencies, as, back then, the radio and the public wouldn't punish guys like that when their songs ran a little long...again, I digress

Also, either causing or because of the near disappearance of the guitar solo (that's another discussion), the need for the singer with range in rock has also diminished. Solos became short or nonexistent, and the new generation of singers inspired by the Vedder/Staley/Weiland school, such as ST@pp, Scallions, Sully, to name a few, emerged and enjoyed success; whilst, the guys with range, again, would stay on the fringes.

Now, it's 2004 (I'm pretty sure, anyway...)...so, what's going on? What's going on is that the singers with range are not being heard on the radio, unless they are playing classic rock and you catch a Journey song or a Zeppelin song or a Judas Priest song.

And, what about Mark Tremonti? This is his project, and, I get the feeling that he has had to hold back a lot for the last few years (and you guys would probably know better than me, as you guys are mostly hardcore Creed fans, I followed Myles here from MF4), and Mark was wanting to really cut loose. I submit that, not only was choosing Myles a great choice, it was the necessary choice. Mark wants flexibility, to do what he wants to do without feeling stifled, and Myles provides that for him with the same versatility.

Myles Kennedy...what can I say about him that I haven't been saying for the past few months on here...well, let me sum up. Myles' vocal skills are the perfect marriage of the emotive rock singers of the 70s like Plant and Tommy Shaw, the strength of guys like Dio, the resplendent r&b stylings of Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder, breath control and sustain of vintage Geoff Tate, and the modern edge of singers that cut their teeth on similar aforementioned influences such as Cornell and Buckley. Helluva guitar player, too...

Myles Kennedy is where the past meets the future!!! I heard that somewhere...can't remember where, but, it's catchy, yeah?

Now, it goes without saying that you don't have to like Myles' voice. If it's not your particular brand of vodka, then there is PLENTY of other stuff out there on the radio and elsewhere for you to listen to. ST#pp's new album comes out pretty soon, and the Tea Party is solid, so, enjoy.

But, the fact is this: Myles Kennedy is Mark's lead singer.

Here endeth the rant...


Also, I am saying nothing remotely derogatory about any singer I have listed here, I'm merely pointing out the differences. EVERY SINGLE SINGER that I have named here, I have some of their work. It's all music, it's all good, it's why we are here.

Oh, yeah, one more thing:

Myles Kennedy rules!!!

YDload
August 24th 2004



1207 Comments


I still think Myles sounds a lot like Stapp (his name isn't censored here, by the way), but all that proves is that Mark Tremonti enjoyed the deep-throated bellowing of Stapp but hated his attitude, so he formed another band and got a singer that sounds a lot like his old bandmate but much more tolerable.

P.S. I don't like Robert Plant's voice all that much; it's too "Axl-y" at times.

splashfreak
August 24th 2004



196 Comments


I still think Myles sounds a lot like Stapp (his name isn't censored here, by the way), but all that proves is that Mark Tremonti enjoyed the deep-throated bellowing of Stapp but hated his attitude, so he formed another band and got a singer that sounds a lot like his old bandmate but much more tolerable.


I'm not saying this in a derogatory way, but have you heard any songs besides open your eyes? If you haven't, I can see where you are coming from, for a few reasons. First, open your eyes sounds ridiculously like creed. Second, Scott Sta*p always sang for Creed. Third, Myles is singing to a song that sounds like all of the songs that St**p sang sound like. Our minds can easily play tricks on us and fit their two voices together even when they don't sound anything alike, if they have the same background.

If you HAVE heard their other stuff... come on man, get real.

Anyway, I put it this way. Does Myles sound like Eddie Vedder? If not, he can't sound like Scott St*pp, since all S**** ever did was imitate Vedder.

I rest my case.

Oh, and by the way, SSSnake, where would you put Jon Bon Jovi in that, umm, reather large rant of yours?

metallicamaniac16
August 24th 2004



16 Comments


I'll just add my opinion. I don't have this album, but I give thought to getting it, even though I am a metal fan. I'm a guitarist, and I think that it's great that Tremonti is soloing like he is. I expected "Open Your Eyes" to be of the same formula that Creed followed, and in most ways, it is, but when Tremonti started soloing, I was left with my jaw hanging (I'm a Randy Rhoads fanatic and my jaw was hanging). If he's showing off, then that is fine. I don't want music that doesn't use an artist's potential and talent. Tremonti is a great guitarist, and he should use his ability to its extent. I have tried writing solos, but mine suck. If I could write solos like he does, I would show it off 24/7. That's it.

brak_jb_page
August 24th 2004



19 Comments


[QUOTE=Vlad_The_Moose]1)P.S. Lindsay Lohan sucks[/QUOTE]

no...no you didn't...no you FREAKIN didn't...

wanker

brak_jb_page
August 24th 2004



19 Comments


sure, this album may be good for mainstream rock, but compare it to Zeppelin or Tool and its crushed...

metallicamaniac16
August 24th 2004



16 Comments


For SSSnake, while I am impressed with your knowledge of music, musicians, time periods, etc, I couldn't read your entire post because it was just too long. I'm not trying to be a pain in the ***, it's just a little piece of advise. Don't make your post so long that people may begin to space out in the middle of reading it.

IsItLuck?
Emeritus
August 24th 2004



4925 Comments


Creed members need to be totally obliterated off the face of the Earth. What the fuck, they are parasites, keep coming back.

metallicamaniac16
August 24th 2004



16 Comments


[QUOTE=brak_jb_page]sure, this album may be good for mainstream rock, but compare it to Zeppelin or Tool and its crushed...[/QUOTE]
I totally agree, but I still think that Tremonti's guitar playing is a breath of fresh air in a world dominated by screaming nu-metal, rap, crappy punk, and p**sy boy bands.

brak_jb_page
August 24th 2004



19 Comments


[QUOTE=metallicamaniac16]I totally agree, but I still think that Tremonti's guitar playing is a breath of fresh air in a world dominated by screaming nu-metal, rap, crappy punk, and p**sy boy bands.[/QUOTE]

true...not that he's Page...but i do agree

brak_jb_page
August 24th 2004



19 Comments


[QUOTE=IsItLuck?]Creed members need to be totally obliterated off the face of the Earth. What the fuck, they are parasites, keep coming back.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

like a turd that won't flush



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