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Veldin
February 11th 2021


5273 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Everyone listen to the new Ad Nauseum LP.

DavidYowi
February 11th 2021


3512 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

“why be infuriated at someone else's opinion“



I’ll admit it, I just hate this guy’s work. He’s also the reviews editor at P4K so every review since he was hired is approved by him, and there are so many awful reviews in recent years that he thought was good enough to publish, especially ones that feel like they were witten with the sole purpose of trashing an album. I hate Greta Van Fleet but his 1.6 review of them was a total hit piece. I once checked his Twitter and he had a tweet about how the people who listen to Higher Power are white people with dreads. Dude seems insufferable. I can’t deny that my apprehension towards indie rock is projection but P4K are still the most obnoxiously elitist outlet in music, and that dude 100% contributes to that reputation.

parksungjoon
February 11th 2021


47235 Comments


i think its entirely possible to think poorly of someone (nevermind criticise them ofc) or find their thoughts useless/etc without letting them get to you

that said i was always under the impression that pitchfork is like the basic bitch's gateway to music that isnt 100% commercial, when it comes to music publications. so i cant exactly see them as "obnoxiously elitist"

parksungjoon
February 11th 2021


47235 Comments


there is probably also something to be said about the fact that for some bands both their musical "mission statement" and their target audience/demographic have little to no overlap with critics and what they tend to be looking for. what im saying is that regardless of what that guy or that mag or anyone else says, they will continue to live and die by the opinions of their often large fanbase that's completely disconnected from any kind of critical discourse

and theres probably also something to be said about the fact that some genres may lend themselves better to these kinds of bands and these kinds of fans than others, of which post-80s hard rock (and arguably even then...) i think is likely one

someone
Contributing Reviewer
February 11th 2021


6648 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

yeah, i quite hate the bashful, cheeky direction current day popular critique has taken. if anything is a "perfect representation" of "ruling ideologies [stripping] popular culture of their original meaning" it's publications like Pitchfork. mind you, i don't mean ruling ideology as a socio-economic construct, but rather a mentality of cultural discourse, by which a mildly experimental self-aware album with hodgepodge stylistic influences can be automatically deemed great (to support boredcore's review), and by which elevating a reviewer's persona with an i-know-better approach above a critiqued work is allowed to become the leading standard of popular art discourse.

Pikazilla
February 11th 2021


29797 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

that said i was always under the impression that pitchfork is like the basic bitch's gateway to music that isnt 100% commercial, when it comes to music publications. so i cant exactly see them as "obnoxiously elitist"



Well said, park.

DavidYowi
February 11th 2021


3512 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

“i think its entirely possible to think poorly of someone (nevermind criticise them ofc) or find their thoughts useless/etc without letting them get to you”



True. I often get too mad about things that shouldn’t bother me because I don’t tell anyone about it because deep down I know it shouldn’t make me angry, which counterintuitively makes me even more mad because I have all this negative energy that I don’t know where to dispose of it.



DavidYowi
February 11th 2021


3512 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

“ if anything is a "perfect representation" of "ruling ideologies [stripping] popular culture of their original meaning" it's publications like Pitchfork. mind you, i don't mean ruling ideology as a socio-economic construct, but rather a mentality of cultural discourse“



Agree. Pitchfork reviews are the perfect example of “liking this piece of media makes you a good person.” Which is a shame because I do want music reviews to examine the political aspects of an artist’s work, but the way P4K do it feels so cloying most of the time.

parksungjoon
February 11th 2021


47235 Comments


>and by which elevating a reviewer's persona with an i-know-better approach above a critiqued work is allowed to become the leading standard of popular art discourse.

kind of hard to address this without devolving into the old chestnut of reviews being inherently subjective, but was there ever a time without self-absorbed blowhards prominent in critic circles? t. christgau

parksungjoon
February 11th 2021


47235 Comments


>“liking this piece of media makes you a good person.”

ahhhhhh okay... in my opinion this tends to be a uniquely american upper middle class (yuppie?) thing... reverberating across way more than just music critique

Cygnatti
February 11th 2021


36035 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

I don't understand what's happening in this thread. But I agree with what Pherobro said.

LeddSledd
February 11th 2021


7444 Comments


Pitchfork sucks, agreed

someone
Contributing Reviewer
February 11th 2021


6648 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

that may be the only point everyone agrees on

GhandhiLion
February 11th 2021


17643 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

it's alright

someone
Contributing Reviewer
February 12th 2021


6648 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

while we're at this self-aware post-punk and Pitchfork talk, i am reminded of when Protomartyr dissed a P4K writer with "There's a failed lawyer haunting teen punk shows"

SAPoodle
February 12th 2021


850 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

I don't like this because it's experimental or doing something new, I like this because it's good music. The backlash to this album reminds me of the backlash to Sunbather in a way.

Dewinged
Staff Reviewer
February 12th 2021


32043 Comments


Ok gonna jam

Dewinged
Staff Reviewer
February 12th 2021


32043 Comments


Reminds me of Black Midi so far, which is a good thing.

There was a track that sounded like the guy was reading Sput posts aloud lol

someone
Contributing Reviewer
February 12th 2021


6648 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

"References references references"

parksungjoon
February 12th 2021


47235 Comments


>The backlash to this album reminds me of the backlash to Sunbather in a way.

at least theres no elitist vs poser war



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