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botb
December 4th 2019


17865 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

One of the strongest releases of the year

dedex
Staff Reviewer
December 4th 2019


12788 Comments

Album Rating: 4.1 | Sound Off

The language barrier is an interesting matter. As a non native English speaker, I did not take into account what was said for quite a few years (and even now it's clearly not my #1 argument for loving an album). I grew up listening to music and not understanding a shit about the message (that's why my parents didn't care either if I listened to 50 Cent talking about dicks). If I love(d) Green Day, it's because their melodies stayed in my head; if I love(d) Pink Floyd it's because their sole music could make me feel things I never encountered before. Same with Cult of Luna this year, I never bothered reading the lyrics and I don't care, I love this record for what it sounds like. That's only when I'm deeply attached to an album musically that I try to go full lyrics-mode (eg reading Fall of Efrafa's lyrics and lore made me 5 Elil). I understand that for you guys it must be pretty important (it is for me when I'm listening to francophone music), but I feel a lot of non-native English speakers do not truly care about the lyrics, as long as the music is pleasing.

That was my 2 cents, and I don't know if it's interesting, but I've wanted to talk about this subject for a long time, so a Swedish album thread might be the perfect place for this. I wonder if I'm talking bs or if others feel the same.

Artuma
December 4th 2019


32769 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

great post dedex, i feel you a lot as a fellow non-native english speaker. however i do realize how the lyrics add to the context of the music, but most of the time i don't really pay too much attention to them. you always spot poor lyrical work though.

Demon of the Fall
December 4th 2019


33800 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

'That's only when I'm deeply attached to an album musically that I try to go full lyrics-mode' (2)



Yeah that's the same for me in most instances as well, I very rarely connect with lyrics and it is usually something I investigate after I've already fallen for the music in question. Despite being a native English speaker I did have exposure to the limits of language through my love of Sigur Ros, then of course you have virtually indecipherable screams found in extreme forms of music; such as another early example of mine, Converge.



This helps to illustrate the contrasts actually, as reading some of Converge's lyricism helped to enhance their material, whereas I've read very questionable things about Sigur Ros and have decided to actively avoid translating anything - through the fear their alien-like wonder will be somehow lost.



Archelirion
December 4th 2019


6594 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Fall of Efrafa is absolutely the sort of stuff you wanna be going full lyrics mode on. As a native English speaker a lot of music from all around the world is in my language, but I'll agree that delivery and timbre is more important, so long as the lyrics are decent.

Demon of the Fall
December 4th 2019


33800 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Noticeably bad lyrics are very off-putting, nonsensical or indecipherable ones are not - essentially if you're performing lyrics in a way I can understand them, they better be passable, at worst.



I should delve into FoE's lyrics more myself, absolutely love that band.

melltuga
December 4th 2019


84 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

this is amazing! Never thought I'd actually enjoy a screamo record but fuck this is great.

botb
December 4th 2019


17865 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I feel this discussion bc I wish I knew what all the sound clips on the last SFFS record were saying.

kevbogz
December 4th 2019


6103 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"I feel this discussion bc I wish I knew what all the sound clips on the last SFFS record were saying." this tho



not understanding the language of the lyrics is neat cuz it means the vocals are more of an instrument where you can focus on the melody, blend it with the instruments, and feel it more than hear it (:



Sniff
December 4th 2019


8062 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

samples on the sffs are actually amazing

Artuma
December 4th 2019


32769 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

yeah honestly i love those samples too. my swedish is a little rusty but it's a really nasty story there

Archelirion
December 4th 2019


6594 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Vilse I Pannkakan is such a ruthless closer. I'm so glad they kept it for last.

XingKing
December 4th 2019


16152 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

not understanding the language of the lyrics is neat cuz it means the vocals are more of an instrument [2]

Demon of the Fall
December 4th 2019


33800 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah I totally get that too, have a (3).

Archelirion
December 4th 2019


6594 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

(4) tbh

JayEnder
December 4th 2019


19914 Comments


Okay this is fucking awesome what the hell?

ComeToDaddy
December 4th 2019


1851 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Stoked to see how quickly this overtook the debut in votes, finally getting the attention they deserve

Archelirion
December 4th 2019


6594 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

About bloody time ^ ^

Slex
December 4th 2019


16576 Comments


Well, first track is out of this world, one of the best songs I’ve heard this year. Can’t wait to listen to the rest ASAP

Kiran
Emeritus
December 4th 2019


6133 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

You're better off not understanding the language tbh, these guys are super corny, but really cool album



Great review!



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