Album Rating: 4.5

Agreed never understood the hate for Archers

seriously, song is fantastic and helps give some good variety in tone to that album. classic BN.

So are we allowed to listen to Brand New now?

only brand new cover bands.

Album Rating: 3.0

don't think i agree

Album Rating: 4.0

Love Archers. Very unique to the rest of the album but still somehow works.

Yeah Archers and Not the Sun are great.

What I want is a Vin solo album. Even just instrumentals.

other than nobody moves honestly dont think a lot of these songs would fit the tone of the album other than the songs that are actually on it. even the "low lights" (since not the sun archers and handcuffs are still fucking wicked no matter what anyone says) have a darker and noisier feel than any of the demos, other than the songs that actually made that album

I think Missing You would have fit really well on Deja

Archers is absolutely essential to TDAG

Album Rating: 4.0

1996 and Fork and Knife follow a similar style to Jesus or Handcuffs. Don't see how they wouldn't fit tbh. Lyrically, 1996 goes into christian/religious themes that would perfectly fit in TDAG.



I don't think Archers is a bad song, but any of those two plus Nobody Moves are vastly superior imo.

Album Rating: 4.5

"I think Missing You would have fit really well on Deja"

100% agreed

"Archers is absolutely essential to TDAG"

98% agreed; it's definitely important to me to have that release of energy at the end of the album, although I'm sure there's other ways they could have done that.

"1996 and Fork and Knife follow a similar style to Jesus or Handcuffs"

Lyrically yes, musically only somewhat

Album Rating: 4.5

Speaking of Missing You fitting in on Deja, it might be fun to consider what Demos/b-sides/unreleased tracks would fit where, if they were allowed to be sprinkled throughout the band's discog.



For instance: Good Man, Brother's Song, and Missing You all feel like Deja Entendu, Nobody Moves is clearly TDAG...Out of Range always struck me as a Daisy song. Not really sure where 1996 would fit tbh but I suppose as a more upbeat TDAG track. Then from their Safety in Numbers Split both Moshi Moshi and Am I Wrong would have been excellent YFW songs.

Out of Range never really fit anywhere in my mind. Maybe TDAG or or SciFi, but definitely doesn't have that "Daisy" aesthetic imo. Probably in my top 15 BN songs, and it is such a BN song, even though it doesn't sound like any one album in particular.

Album Rating: 4.5

I think the Modest Mouse vocal twang that others brought up in the SF thread appears in that song, a style most prevalent on Daisy, so it seemed like a match to me. The slow pacing and almost electronic atmosphere def is not a Daisy thing though.

Album Rating: 4.0

Listening to this for the first time and fuck, Nobody Moves is amazing.

Album Rating: 4.0

Also, even though I love Archers, I think I actually prefer Battalions. Great song.

but Archers just has so. much. energy. it's like the one burst of sunlight on a really dark album and I adore it

Battalions sounds like a Killers song. TDAG is better off without it.

Album Rating: 4.0

Hey man, I agree and love Archers just as much as the next guy, but Battalions felt more fleshed out somehow (despite the sound quality being a bit worse).