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MO
September 28th 2017


24017 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

capitalism may be broken, but it's the best we've had so far. maybe a hybrid would work but fuck communism/full blown socialism

zakalwe
September 28th 2017


38852 Comments


The ‘intellectuals’ abide by it. Never done a days graft but they know what’s best obviously.

beefshoes
September 28th 2017


8443 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

At least most people agree that capitalism is fundamentally fucked, and I would hope that the same people think that Marxist-Leninism and other brands of authoritarian leftism are far worse, though student activism suggests otherwise. I went to my home university a few weeks ago to pick up my transcripts, and I saw a group of Maoists in front of the admissions building, and overheard them debating with passersby, asserting that the numbers dead in the Great Leap Forward were fabricated by the capitalist class. They live in a completely different reality.

zakalwe
September 28th 2017


38852 Comments


Typical entitled, naive brats

polyrhythm
September 28th 2017


2599 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

The Nordic model is the ideal compromise imo. Strong welfare net for the vulnerable members of society. Capitalism is kept on something of a leash, so it doesn't self-destruct and take the world with it. Greener energies and business practices are encouraged. A good education system. Funding for the arts and sciences. Invest in the future generation. Seriously reconsider the value of certain kinds of labour, e.g. teachers, mothers, those that work their asses off for the good of other people and receive a pittance.

We don't need to round up the upper classes and give them the guillotine, just tax them according to their position of advantage. It isn't like many affluent people worked their asses off to get there, as that common myth asserts. If you're born into wealth, you'll stay there.

JS19
September 28th 2017


7777 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

'I am starting a PhD in political science/sociology next year, and I am an anarchist'



o.m.g.

zakalwe
September 28th 2017


38852 Comments


Poly, the ‘Nordic’ system had the infrastructure to accommodate it, mass immigration has fucked it. Sweden has recorded a deficit for the first time in years.

The rich are used as a scapegoat into raising taxes. The fact is business owners are taxed up to the eyeballs.

polyrhythm
September 28th 2017


2599 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Hardly see how it's a scapegoat, when there is so much lazily accumulated wealth in the upper class, as well as issues of growing wealth inequality and tax evasion. "Those poor, poor rich people" seems like a ridiculous sentiment.



Also taxed up to their eyeballs? Really? Corporate tax and top-bracket tax is much lower now than it was in say, the 50s and 60s. It was over 90% back then. This was something that grew the economy and the middle class. This was also a period of affordable housing, even for unskilled workers, and college tuition was cheap or even free. Why the hell wouldn't we go back to that model?

polyrhythm
September 28th 2017


2599 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

And regarding Sweden... there was certainly a big spike in immigration around 2015, which would've strained welfare and other budgets and led to that deficit. But that was the result of a crisis that is already slowing down (look at asylum applications from this year compared to the last couple). Let's not talk about Sweden or Germany as being once prosperous nations, which are being destroyed by an exponentially increasing number of immigrants. The influx of people is stabilising. Also hate the sentiment that immigrants are selfish bloodsuckers (or terrorists in disguise), when they are often fleeing wars in which the West has played a role, and actually contribute to the economies they're entering.

zakalwe
September 28th 2017


38852 Comments


I highly recommend The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray.
I also recommend visiting areas that have been sublimated and divided by Middle Eastern culture.




beefshoes
September 28th 2017


8443 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

The welfare capitalist systems in Nordic Europe aren't as prone to crises and inequality as liberal-market economies objectively speaking, and it is a better system when compared to liberal-market economies by any stretch of the imagination, but it has its own share of problems, as exemplified by the economic stagflation of the 1990s, and rising income inequality (which is likely inflated by incoming immigrant communities). And as long as an economy is market based, there are always going to be Immanuel Macrons that drool over any chance of liberalisation and austerity at all costs. It's a fair short term solution, but it's not sustainable in the long-term, and the notion that someone like Jeremy Corbyn could transform Britain into such a direction is completely laughable in my view, given the institutional opposition towards him will be complete and unwavering.





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For anyone who is interested in anarchism/libertarian socialism in practice, Rojava is an extremely interesting and ongoing example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rojava

BeyondCosby
September 28th 2017


2781 Comments


Just curious, why is this listed under "Best New Music" when there have been other albums that have come out recently with a higher overall rating?

Jots
Emeritus
September 28th 2017


7562 Comments


it has to do with staff ratings tbh, smh

JoylessBastard
October 1st 2017


480 Comments


After one listen, admittedly inadequate for a Godspeed release, this is fairly boring. This is coming from someone who loves their entire discog apart from this.

matbla00
October 1st 2017


571 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I'll engage in the discussion more when I will have read the thread and when i have more time to waste here, but adressing "I am starting a PhD in political science/sociology next year, and I am an anarchist, so I hope that I am qualified to speak on this." - the biggest cliche i've seen lately. Will discuss your mistake (a moderate one) later, but really, lmao when i read that.

Cimnele
October 3rd 2017


2527 Comments


As for what we look out upon once we climb to the top of those vertiginous crescendos? Well,

zaruyache
October 3rd 2017


27384 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

turns out you can put words in any order you like

verdant
Emeritus
October 4th 2017


2492 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

????

zaruyache
October 7th 2017


27384 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

my point eggsactly.

AnimalsAsSummit
October 10th 2017


6163 Comments


i could search 'noise/ drone' on bandcamp and find an album better than this within 5 mins



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