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Toad
November 27th 2016


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for a while i just stopped talking about genres after the pop conversation bc i didn't know how to constructively approach conversations about them

i can sort of recognize patterns more quickly now but it's still pretty intense trying to get to the bottom of distinctions between core genres as you said

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Toad
November 27th 2016


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Album Rating: 3.5

yeah subgenres are super easy to define in comparison

FullOfSounds
November 27th 2016


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Over the last few months I've been getting easier at identifying how some things work, why they work, etc.

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LordePots
November 27th 2016


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Album Rating: 3.5

i think its easier if you don't start burning both ends of the candle. if you start at the very beginning of a genre and then work your way chronologically it makes more sense but like if your introduction to hip hop was bouncing back between like tribe and some modern shit like kendrick you'd be pretty confused

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LordePots
November 27th 2016


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or moreso like some aesop rock or cage or shit like that lol

FullOfSounds
November 27th 2016


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Nas, Tribe, Wu-Tang, GZA, MF Doom, and a couple more obscure artists are the ones I was planning on knocking out first

Toad
November 27th 2016


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Album Rating: 3.5

my hip-hop listening experience (obviously some of these are not hip hop but w/e) went gorillaz -> kanye west -> doom/madvillain -> death grips -> modern alt hip-hop like shabazz palaces and captain murphy etc. -> making my way back to golden age

the core classic group (idk if it makes sense to phrase it like that) i like most is definitely tribe

Toad
November 27th 2016


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Album Rating: 3.5

i can understand why wu and gza and public enemy are great but i'm definitely drawn to the more subdued, jazzier stuff as well as atmospheric / weird records like cold vein

LordePots
November 27th 2016


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"my hip-hop listening experience (obviously some of these are not hip hop but w/e) went gorillaz -> kanye west -> doom/madvillain -> death grips -> modern alt hip-hop like shabazz palaces and captain murphy etc. -> making my way back to golden age"



yeah i could see this being a weird sequence lol

LordePots
November 27th 2016


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Album Rating: 3.5

"Nas, Tribe, Wu-Tang, GZA, MF Doom, and a couple more obscure artists are the ones I was planning on knocking out first"



one thing i've noticed about a lot of 'heads' is that when they talk about good rappers they are almost strictly talking about their skill as a rapper. i dont like this approach because for me there is so much going on that is equally important on hip hop albums. the beats themselves, the rapping both on a lyrical front AND a technical front, the production, the atmosphere, the impact of the rapper or the group on the genre etc etc.



so in that regard i actually find Nas extremely overrated. Like his influence is unquestionable in that his technicality as a rapper was something that hadn't really been done before, he really changed the game for the actual technical side of rapping. but for all the other aspects? many of which are honestly often even more important than that for me, he is far from the best. his beats and atmosphere and production etc have got nothing on a lot of other groups. same with wu-tang tbh, like gza's liquid swords is infinitely more impressive than any of their joint albums imo, just because sonically it is so advanced. it has an utterly unique atmosphere.

Toad
November 27th 2016


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Album Rating: 3.5

i think 90% of my music taste comes down to hearing joshua tree on repeat in the womb

atmosphere/reverb/soundscapes are just about drilled into my tastebuds, hip-hop definitely doesn't come naturally to me

it's probably why black metal was first subgenre of metal i got into as well

Toad
November 27th 2016


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Album Rating: 3.5

unsurprisingly i like liquid swords way more than any of wu's stuff for the reason you've identified

LordePots
November 27th 2016


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Album Rating: 3.5

another example is that buckshot might not technically be one of the best rappers ever but when you look at everything together, his style, his lyrics, the beats he works with and the atmosphere he creates by playing off them, and everything that he has done for the genre he is a fucking legend.

Ryus
November 27th 2016


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one of my favorite things about illmatic is how succinct it is

the beats are terrific but yeah not any better than the beats on a gang starr or pete rock and CL smooth album or a lot of other 90s groups

FullOfSounds
November 27th 2016


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"like gza's liquid swords is infinitely more impressive than any of their joint albums imo, just because sonically it is so advanced. it has an utterly unique atmosphere."
i can't talk about liquid swords being better sonically or technically bc i haven't heard it yet. however, i found 36 chambers to have an awesome atmosphere. it was more subtle and took a few listens until i realized that the skits + lyrics and minimalist production creates a damn fine setting in my mind

LordePots
November 27th 2016


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Album Rating: 3.5

"the beats are terrific but yeah not any better than the beats on a gang starr or pete rock and CL smooth album or a lot of other 90s groups"



hard

LordePots
November 27th 2016


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Album Rating: 3.5

not always, but very often i find skits to be very annoying

Toad
November 27th 2016


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Album Rating: 3.5

this may be a cliche response but i found the skits on both of kendrick's last records to be pretty unobtrusive

FullOfSounds
November 27th 2016


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me too but not on 36 chambers, in fact i think they made it a sliver better.

Ryus
November 27th 2016


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the 36 chambers skits are classic



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