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Cormano
June 28th 2022


4113 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

just bring back the guy permanently ffs

hobblepot
June 29th 2022


2947 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

"Jonny commented on their IG post of the tour and said "still not me but te best choice they could have made in my opinion" which is pretty sweet of the guy"



How sweet. He might just be the sweetest rapist, woman beating conman and misogynist that there ever was

Odal
Staff Reviewer
June 29th 2022


2075 Comments


I really do think DGD fans are one of the worst fanbases out there lol

GreyShadow
June 29th 2022


7058 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

i believe misogynist, the con is obviously the famous one, didn't know about the sa but not surprised

GreyShadow
June 29th 2022


7058 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

yeah, this fanbase is testing my patience these days lol. moreso than normal

Feather
June 29th 2022


10139 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"How sweet. He might just be the sweetest rapist, woman beating conman and misogynist that there ever was"



I thought Tillian was the rapist? I don't know much about jonny other than him scamming fans with a macbook and being an addict.



EDIT: JYNX Grey!

Odal
Staff Reviewer
June 29th 2022


2075 Comments


iirc Jonny has some sexual allegations against him too and did some fucked up stuff like having a ton of drugs in the presence of a minor or something? I can't remember the specifics but I remember it was a ton of ick

Cormano
June 29th 2022


4113 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

guys sober and abuse allegations have been cleared up idk why people keep bringing the word "rapist" every time his name pops up, its also what always happened in the swanposting group up until the Tillian stuff went down lmao now I never see those people post anymore let alone shit on Jonny

hobblepot
June 29th 2022


2947 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Several women have come forward with allegations of rape and sexual assault against Jonny Craig. His ex, who was a YouTuber, posted a lengthy statement after their breakup saying he raped her whilst drunk and/or high. If you google it you'll find tonnes of it, dude is a piece of shit and his fans really need to accept that he's dirt. It drives me insane how many DGD fans give the dude a pass because he's a recovering addict with a hard luck story, or because his voice is great. His voice isn't great, when the guy sings you can barely make a word out. Whilst recording for DBM2 he was wankered and just spitting nonsense into the mic. He's scum lmfao



I know out of the whole band the one who hates him most is Mess. When I saw them on the 10th anniversary tour they wouldn't even look at one another, and at one point it seemed like Jon was gonna walk off stage because Jonny was drinking whilst performing

Feather
June 30th 2022


10139 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Thanks for the knowledge drop hobble. Jonny made a sweet comment considering his tumultuous relationship with the band, but is also a scum lord*

ConcubinaryCode
June 30th 2022


7581 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

https://youtu.be/zUstszFdjmo



Huge trigger warning btw



Here's the ex's video for those curious. Jonny legit shouldn't have a professional career because it brings out his absolute worst. Like he's not a great person in general but his bad habits when he's touring for example exacerbate his bad qualities tenfold.

28Gloom
June 30th 2022


106 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

5 Years ago or so there were headlights of Jonny mentally abusing partners and hooking a couple of them into hard drugs. One of them being the mother of his child.



I think that's where the SA come from but there may be more behind it, it's Jonny we're talking about.

Edit: Just saw hobblepot's comment and I do also remember a bit about that saga.



Still I can't lie, even while being high as a plane he has the better voice of the 3 DGD vocalists, even if Kurt lyrically and flow wise is my favorite. Yeah when writting he pulls a Jon Mess and doesn't give a shit but he does have an amazing voice, still he shouldn't be let back in the band.



Still, glad to see them rocking on with Kurt, he da best imo.



I won't be going to the DGD subreddit anytime soon. It's 99% Tilian apologists coping into the band bringing him back ASAP, any post regarding the vocalist for the group gets super abused by the community lmao.

ConcubinaryCode
June 30th 2022


7581 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Oh yeah, Jonny is also a pedo.

Odal
Staff Reviewer
June 30th 2022


2075 Comments


Yeah, Jonny undeniably has an an amazing voice imo (trash lyricist tho lol) but he shouldn't have a music career. I hope that his recovery is sincere and that he has genuinely improved as a person, but he has not even come close to paying his debt to society and definitely shouldn't be in a space with as many temptations and vices as the music scene. He is trash.

It really is insane how delusional the DGD subreddit is. Most band subs are gonna be dickriding and talking about "I just listened to x song and I cried", but I have yet to see any other community -other than XXXtentacion maybe- that will go to bat so hard for an out and out abuser. Real disgusting shit

JayEnder
June 30th 2022


19923 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Seems like a really swell guy

CatfishSoup
August 1st 2022


371 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Re-listening to this after Jackpot Juicer makes me enjoy it even more. Holy shit the production and Tilians vocals are on point in this.

ConcubinaryCode
August 1st 2022


7581 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I've kinda had the opposite reaction, I can still see this as one of the better tilian-era albums but a lot of current problems the band has is still here just maybe not as pronounced or evident.

KenboSlice
August 1st 2022


3840 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Swanposting has pretty much shot down any discussion of the Tilian allegations. One of the reasons is very dumb and petty.



I'm just there to watch the group implode if Tilian comes back or they replace him.

Mort.
August 1st 2022


25076 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

not surprising that the sub for a band is really stupid. only megafans are going to bother posting and theyre most likely to be dismissive of anything critical/negative



vult
August 1st 2022


2323 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Fuckbois gunna fuckboi



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