I agree with what your saying, the name change coupled with the new album name seems really hypocritical but I don't think it invalidates any of his work tbh. religion isnt the only topic these guys write about if im not mistaken.

im just saying it seems dumb to refuse to listen to this album because of a simple name change

It doesn't invalidate his past works and how good they were, but I can't really listen to any new music from him (especially one centered around religion which he was specifically hypocritical about) and take it seriously.

you do you man

Fosho man. I do find some of his older works to be pretty good though.

lmao just no

no at what Sint

snide

Why no?

I don't know BlackMalachite, I'm going to have to disagree with your logic here. AJJ has pretty openly distanced themselves from their first record (Candy Cigarettes...) which contained a lot of stuff critical of Christianity and religion that I assume you're referring to. All current printings of the record have a lengthy insert explaining their reasoning and how it doesn't reflect who they are today, etc. This was way before the name change. I would argue that other than that first album, saying they made their career or discography on being offensive, specifically toward religion, is wildly inaccurate.

Also I'd argue that this title isn't really all that provocative at all.

very interesting Vicarious didn't know that. never listened to Candy Cigarettes tho.

as for the title I think coupled with the name change it seems more provocative than it really is tbh. it's obv a playful name. as a christian myself im not really offended

@Vicarious: That actually surprises me, and wasn't aware of their distancing from that. I need to do more research.
@Conmaniac: I'm not even a christian, I'm just not in favor of changing your artistic name for the sake of pleasing a religion.

What's to gain from just using the acronym though? Everyone knows what it stands for, if you're so far removed from earlier material that you want to distance yourself to the extent of changing your name, why not completely change name?
I wouldn't sabotage with a low rate over it, but I think it's dumb

it is dumb exactly

but they weren't trying to please anyone, this was just a decision the band made on their own

and tbh they did say that now their change has developed quite a bit from folk-punk to a lo-fi indie sound, it makes sense, the name sounds more punky and edgy than their music would suggest. The fact they abbreviated it was a good decision imo as otherwise it would feel like they're dismissing their previous work, rather than being the same band trying new things, people can still tell that they're the same band

"But they weren't trying to please anyone"
I love you dude, but this is blatantly incorrect. The band's own statement was

"1.) We are not Muslims, and as such, it is disrespectful and irresponsible for us to use the word jihad in our band's name."

They were trying to more than likely appease those of muslim faith who got upset when they discovered their music.

I'm just gonna post this snippet of an interview they did that refers to the CC&CG stuff I was talking about, and also sort of gives some context for the name change, because I think it could be helpful to this conversation.
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AVC: This isn’t the first time the band has distanced itself from parts of its past. You’ve been very vocal about not playing any songs from your first record, Candy Cigarettes & Cap Guns, any more. Do you feel like the name change is a way to shed that baggage entirely?

SB: I like that you used the word “baggage,” because I’ve been using that word a lot as well when talking it over with my friends and stuff. It is definitely a shedding of baggage.

And that’s an argument that a lot of people have been kind of using against the name change, “Well you wrote this song.” And I think a lot of the guys that are making this argument aren’t aware that we don’t play those songs anymore. They aren’t aware of the history. They didn’t buy the vinyl re-issue that lays it all out why we don’t play those songs anymore.

It’s good to change. It’s good to put some things to bed so that we can keep going as a band. I don’t think if we had to keep playing those particular songs that we’d have made it 12 years as a band. If I decided to slap a fake a smile on and plow through “Lady Killer” and “Fuck White People,” I would hate that. It would be a disservice to the people that like our band. So yeah, the name change is an extension of that. I don’t really feel like playing in the band that I started when I was 18. I’d rather preserve the stuff that I like about it, change it to my liking, and then I can keep moving forward.

Album Rating: 2.0

they should've changed it 2 albums ago when they incorporated the full band sound tbh. this outrage over a band name of all things is pretty funny tho, ill give u that snide



pumped to listen to this

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

I'm not too informed over the whole name changed thing, but refusing to listen to their newer work because they abbreviated it seems a tad over the top. I get the reasoning, but it seems excessive to me. A band can change its mind on this kind of stuff, and as the guys mature it seems they've redefined where they draw the line

Album Rating: 2.0

The reason the name change is so important, and how it correlates to this album's title, is because it basically proved that Andrew Jackson Jihad has no spine. He's more than willing to bash every other religion (as evidenced by this album's title and previous works) but changed his name to avoid offending a particular religion.



Dude sold out because he wanted to look good and get more modern fans (who are currently on that trend train). For that reason, I'll never listen to this album, or rate it, or anything of his in the future unless he changes his name back (which I doubt he will unless this is just a huge ploy)



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ON point. Gives the album no weight to hold.

^2edgy