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BeeRyan
December 4th 2015


1799 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

if you like them at all, i'd say check out the demos art. i don't like Jen and big cars though.

BeeRyan
December 4th 2015


1799 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i can't get over hate the bliss, man. if the chorus had been worked into the drugs or me one where this one comes over top the dom one, it would be the greatest achievement.

Futures
December 4th 2015


10620 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

oh man i know. it's so fucking good. bee have you checked the ctl demos yet? man they're all amazing

BeeRyan
December 6th 2015


1799 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i dl'd them but are they that different? i haven't gotten a chance to listen to them

Futures
July 6th 2016


10620 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

the true goat

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
July 19th 2016


47611 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4

let's discuss this some more

Artuma
July 19th 2016


32769 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

good bump rowbro, a little reminder of those demos for me :]

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
July 19th 2016


47611 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4

yeeeeeeah I remember the day all those got uploaded me and futures were flipping our absolute shit. I still jam some of them there's some amazing undiscovered stuff in there

minty901
July 19th 2016


3976 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I posted in the Futures thread just now but don't know if the Go Big Casino stuff was ever discussed in here when we were talking about demos. If you haven't checked them out, defo get round to it.

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
July 19th 2016


47611 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4

yeah I've got some of that stuff and it's really nice but I can't find the full damn album anywhere

minty901
July 19th 2016


3976 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I think only like half or 2/3rds of the album ever surfaced, which really sucks. There was a guy on the old JEW boards (username akatimo) who spent years hunting down the GBC stuff, and in fairness did a really good job, but eventually gave up. Did you notice that the bridge in Damage was lifted from the GBC song Ready?

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
July 19th 2016


47611 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4

I didn't notice that! but I always found it interesting how the GBC stuff (which is some of Jim's rawest, most personal work) ended up in the majority on CTL (which is arguably their most shallow, unemotional album). just that weird process of demo to album I guess

minty901
July 19th 2016


3976 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

That's a good point. Agreed about CTL being shallow. Dizzy is a beautiful song, but I really wish they held onto it until Damage and brought it out then with the more raw, personal production style.



Here is the GBC site:



http://gobigcasino.net/



Under the Music heading at the top they have all the MP3s. Turns out there were 3 songs missing from the demo album. To be honest, my bet is that they are Hear You Me, Cautioners and My Sundown. I'm fairly certain they were originally written as GBC songs. Still, would be awesome to be able to have the full thing. Oh well. If you havent downloaded the live show from Phoenix in 99, that has some really beautiful stuff in it. Their "No Christmas" (which is a cover but cant remember who of) is one of my favourite Jim performances; it's stunning.

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
July 19th 2016


47611 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4

Dizzy, Somebody's Blues and to some extent Always Be are emotional songs but the rest is fairly plastic stuff, unfortunately. Dizzy would have been amazing on Invented imo



yeah this is where I got the 7 songs I have (Richmond, Two Serenades, To An Actress, Coliseum, Carry You, Power and Ready). I'll have a peek at that live show

minty901
July 19th 2016


3976 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I have a feeling they will remake Power one day. I think a lot of people liked that song and I don't know why but I think the band are fond of it. They might be holding onto it for future use.



Agreed about Always Be as well. That's probably the only song that I love on CTL. The production really works for it too, which is good, unlike Dizzy which sounds overproduced for what it is. I feel like they did as good a job as they were ever gonna do with Blues so I don't mind that it came out the way that it did. It's only really Dizzy that I feel was just ruined by how it was made and released. If they just held onto it and didn't overproduce it it could have been their next 23 imo.

ashcrash9
Contributing Reviewer
July 19th 2016


3349 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I swap out Feeling Lucky and Here It Goes for Distraction and Be Sensible (B-sides) whenever I listen to CTL. Makes that album so much better.

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
July 19th 2016


47611 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4

I just found a download of So Proud of You which I never found before so that was cool. I'll have to give these a proper listen at some point because raw Jim = best Jim



even as it is I think Dizzy was close to being their next 23 tbh although that song is kinda in a league of its own

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
July 19th 2016


47611 Comments

Album Rating: 4.4

I actually love Feeling Lucky, haha. The contrast between the upbeat music and the lyrics is really entertaining and it's one of the few tracks with energy. agreed that those b-sides and Beautiful Is absolutely needed to make the album tho

Futures
July 19th 2016


10620 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

open bar reception also

Conmaniac
August 15th 2016


27689 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

LMAO Futures guess what



im finally jammin this



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