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North0House2
December 17th 2012


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He doesn't seem to be happy on this thread, that's for sure.

Wolfhorde
December 17th 2012


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Oh btw, what recording EQ did you use?

Keyblade
December 17th 2012


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rating albums is srs bi'niz yall

North0House2
December 17th 2012


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"Oh btw, what recording EQ did you use?"

I know this guy who records music for a profession, and he asked the same thing. I honestly just
recorded it straight. I put the microphone in a coffee mug for most of the vocals and I also put it in
the body of an old, busted, acoustic guitar for most of the instruments. I needed more reverb than my
bedroom provided. Lol.

I really only have a 20 dollar microphone and some old acoustic guitars. So, I had to get really
creative.

Wolfhorde
December 17th 2012


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Nah, it was just a general thing I was interested in because the sound actually seemed pretty 'even' and 'clear'. (and because I'm also looking for input about recording EQ although I might already have a reasonable prized place to start)
But heh, pretty sweet you got that much out of a 20 dollar mic.

chambered49
December 17th 2012


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Yeah, chambered just likes complaining about shit that's not important is seems.




i dont think its a complaint so much as trying to show you the light and i def dont think im the only one that feels this way so i do think its important

North0House2
December 17th 2012


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"Nah, it was just a general thing I was interested in because the sound actually seemed pretty 'even' and 'clear'. (and because I'm also looking for input about recording EQ although I might already have a reasonable prized place to start)
But heh, pretty sweet you got that much out of a 20 dollar mic. "

Ahhhh gotcha. Yeah, man, I wish I knew honestly hahahaha. I run Linux, and was using Audacity. So, I really have no idea what EQ this was recorded in. If anything, it was just default... whatever that is hahaha.
But I agree, I am quite satisfied with my crappy little mic's performance.

Wolfhorde
December 17th 2012


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"Ahhhh gotcha. Yeah, man, I wish I knew honestly hahahaha. I run Linux, and was using Audacity. So, I really have no idea what EQ this was recorded in. If anything, it was just default... whatever that is hahaha.
But I agree, I am quite satisfied with my crappy little mic's performance."
Haha, I believe you just got me wrong. EQ = equipment, I was just being lazy. I mean production is something you can even out afterwards if necessary. Hardware's more important.


SeaAnemone
December 17th 2012


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the more you keep 4.5ing every-fucking-thing you listen to the less weight your opinion on this subject persistently holds. i want your opinion to mean something i want to be able to say holy shit michael gave this a 4? gotta def check it out then cuz michael actually rates with conviction now. i want to be able to say that. get that through your thick skull sir



omg you read my mind
I feel like 90% of the reviews people do nowadays are 4s and above
don't be afraid to call something "good" and have it mean "good," jesus christ
there're good reasons people don't generally take the user reviews seriously anymore, at least I don't and don't think many do, and that's partly because of rating inflation where anything anyone "liked" is now a 4.5, hence it's pretty meaningless


SeaAnemone
December 17th 2012


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as for this album, gave it a listen and didn't really like it very much
keep doin' what you're doin' though man, gotta respect a user for trying

SeaAnemone
December 17th 2012


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there are currently 2 user reviews on the front page that have below 4 stars... 2.
does that mean that every one of those albums is exceptional or excellent? no, it means that people just give it 4 stars or above because they think it's more likely that people'll check it out then... in reality, they're just discrediting themselves and indulging in a habit that makes their opinion near-worthless when it comes to music I haven't heard
I feel like there aren't many user reviewers at all nowadays who don't indulge in this... anyone please feel free to point out some that do not

solongatlast
December 17th 2012


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Album Rating: 4.5

Or maybe users who review for the fun of it happen to enjoy reviewing albums that they like a lot, and honestly consider them good enough for a 4, or even... gasp... a 4.5.

Yuli
Emeritus
December 17th 2012


10767 Comments


Hehe. I think users are more likely to write about what they like - after all, isn't that what we all did when we first joined? The kneejerk reaction is to write about our favorite albums when we haven't written about much else. And much of the more seasoned users are pretty fair with their ratings from what I've seen.

Funeralopolis
December 17th 2012


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"there are currently 2 user reviews on the front page that have below 4 stars... 2.
does that mean that every one of those albums is exceptional or excellent? no, it means that people just give it 4 stars or above because they think it's more likely that people'll check it out then... in reality, they're just discrediting themselves and indulging in a habit that makes their opinion near-worthless when it comes to music I haven't heard
I feel like there aren't many user reviewers at all nowadays who don't indulge in this... anyone please feel free to point out some that do not"


I completely agree with this statement and am guilty of such bias myself, trying to stray away from this and be more objective. It actually probably works out better to be more objective in the long run because once you find something really actually worth a 4.5-5 people will be more likely to listen.

Yuli
Emeritus
December 17th 2012


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When someone writes a negative review, it receives comments like "good review pos, won't check this out then," so that's why a lot of people may boost up their scores. That certainly doesn't mean anybody writing positive reviews is guilty of this, though, and it's possible for certain people to get meaningful experiences out of a lot more albums. it doesn't diminish their credibility, they just approach it differently

chambered49
December 17th 2012


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there are currently 2 user reviews on the front page that have below 4 stars... 2.
does that mean that every one of those albums is exceptional or excellent? no, it means that people just give it 4 stars or above because they think it's more likely that people'll check it out then... in reality, they're just discrediting themselves and indulging in a habit that makes their opinion near-worthless when it comes to music I haven't heard
I feel like there aren't many user reviewers at all nowadays who don't indulge in this... anyone please feel free to point out some that do not





check and mate

Yuli
Emeritus
December 17th 2012


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"does that mean that every one of those albums is exceptional or excellent? no, it means that people just give it 4 stars or above because they think it's more likely that people'll check it out then"

I have to comment on this statement here. How in the world does that conclusion follow from the original premise?

Users don't have as high of standards in terms of reviewing, and like I said earlier, they're going to review what they like. Are we claiming they don't truly "love" these albums, and if so, who are we to say that?

It does happen, yes, where people boost their scores to attract attention. That doesn't mean we can generalize about it and claim everybody does it. From this comment, it seems like you *may* acknowledge that a few of these ratings are legitimate, and if you don't concede that, I'll be pretty damn puzzled about what you're trying to say.

SeaAnemone
December 17th 2012


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I was guilty of it too -- I would want people to check out the music I really liked so, even if I didn't think it was much better than "great," I would rate it 4 specifically so people would check it out more.
Then I realized that after I had done this many times there was less and less incentive for readers to check out he things I reviewed a 4.
By all means, rate shit whatever you want, just don't expect users to take your ratings seriously and view them as credible when they know you've only heard it 4 times and gave another album a 4 yesterday just so people would check it.

Take chambered for instance... I know he loves that Menomena album... he posts about it often, has listened to it a bunch of times, and genuinely considers it excellent, so it makes sense for him to have posted a 4 review of it today.

SeaAnemone
December 17th 2012


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"It does happen, yes, where people boost their scores to attract attention. That doesn't mean we can generalize about it and claim everybody does it. From this comment, it seems like you *may* acknowledge that a few of these ratings are legitimate, and if you don't concede that, I'll be pretty damn puzzled about what you're trying to say."

Obviously I was generalizing, I'm pretty sure there was nothing in my comments insinuating otherwise.

And like I said, by all means rate things what you want, just don't expect others to view you as credible... I mean, people in this generation of sputnik wonder why people put such little stock in user reviews as compared to a few years ago...

SeaAnemone
December 17th 2012


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Well, people should know I'm genuine about this album. I've been recommending it to anyone I talk to for over the past week since I first heard it and after I'd listened to it around 20 times or so I realised I had a lot I wanted to say about the album and put up a review for it. This is a legit 4.5, I'm really in love with this album.


Yeah wasn't anything against you or this album in particular, just making general observations.



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