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ConsiderPhlebas
June 2nd 2012


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Unless Love American is some inhuman monster, or a machine, it should be 'their debut full-length', although 'debut album' is far neater. Also this

an emotional/post-hardcore band from California

might be referring to genre, but actually sounds like the band's defining characteristic is having emotions. Emo is a pretty flimsy term in itself, but at least it sounds like a genre tag. 'Emotional' sounds like you're congratulating a group for achieving what even a retarded monkey has from birth.

Album is a solid 3.5 for me.

camaraderie
June 2nd 2012


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^^ wow, just wow.

camaraderie
June 2nd 2012


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I'm not talking about you, Xeno.

ConsiderPhlebas
June 2nd 2012


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A band is a group of people banded together under a common name. The name doesn't release the album, the group of people do.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 2nd 2012


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Band being treated as a singular or plural varies between American English and the Queen's English

camaraderie
June 2nd 2012


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Band should be singular in the same way as a class or a country or a world is still singular despite representing many people/things.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 2nd 2012


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I was raised on real English (not the terrible stuff you lot are taught in Americaland) so I'm obviously biased, but to me it just makes sense to refer to a group as a collective. They might be operating under one banner but they're not a singular unit; the band is comprised of etc....

camaraderie
June 2nd 2012


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lol, Dev

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 2nd 2012


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Actually depending on what is being said, a country could be represented as a singular plural difference

ConsiderPhlebas
June 2nd 2012


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Even in American reviews etc I usually see it as plural. For things like the army, 'it' works well,
because the military is a depersonalised entity; it exists before and after people join it and its
function remains the same. Releasing an album is a creative act, dependent upon human agency, to say
'it' is to suggest that the action occurs without the individuals effort being involved. edit: I am
English btw, and studying to be a professor of literature.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 2nd 2012


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Think of it this way: would you ever address a band as "it" or "they"?

Tyrael
June 2nd 2012


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what if this 'band' only consists of one person like Wintersun for example

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 2nd 2012


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Well that's different because it is one person operating under that particular name/identity

It all depends on what you're trying to say about the band/country in question
The United States "is" a large country
The Unites States "are" a major power

ConsiderPhlebas
June 2nd 2012


6157 Comments


Just checked a few different sites, and it's always plural as far as I can see. 'They', 'their', 'them' etc etc. If a band is one person, how is he/she a band and not an 'artist'?

Wolfhorde
June 2nd 2012


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"what if this 'band' only consists of one person like Wintersun for example"
Wintersun does not consist of only one person, it is a "one man project" or the "brainchild" of one person but it does include 3 other members besides Jari.

ConsiderPhlebas
June 2nd 2012


6157 Comments


A band is, by definition, a group of people. The old one-man-bands, with the drum and harmonica etc,
performed the function of more than one person, but the name itself was figurative. The only singular
entity within a band is the group's aim towards a common goal - writing, playing, releasing music.
That singular entity is an abstract concept; it can't get drunk, eat a cheeseburger, release an album.
The people of the band write and release the album, and they are a 'they'.

Blackbelt54
June 2nd 2012


4276 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

The football team are good.



Now that doesn't make sense does it? If its a band like Love American I would say "Love American is" but if it's a plural name like the Flaming Tsunamis I would say "the Flaming Tsunamis are"

Wolfhorde
June 2nd 2012


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You can still refer to the football team as "they" or "them". Your argument is invalid.

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
June 2nd 2012


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"The local football team are doing pretty well this season" makes perfect sense

Blackbelt54
June 2nd 2012


4276 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Team is a singular noun



When you say "they", you're referring to the members of the team, not the team as one entity. I could be wrong though, I'm just saying what I think is right.



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