Album Rating: 1.5
"idk how casa can argue for mdm's shitness compared to thrash by postulating that it turned down the aggression. like how is that a good argument"
I never argued this, by the way. My most consistent problem is that it's often just thrash and/or trad/power metal's compositional leftovers. It takes from those two genres and is often worse than both while maintaining this unconvincing veneer of also being a part of death metal in many circumstances.
That said, there is enjoyable material that's not even in the vein of what Knick mentioned before that has pretty involved riffing and is generally more interesting. Estuary - Craft of Contradiction immediately comes to mind. I'd even consider it outstanding.
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They also did an album called The Sentencing when they were called Estuary of Calamity which was pretty neat too.
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Album Rating: 3.5
If there's anything I'll take from this thread it's stuff to look into that I haven't gotten to yet. If someone that really dislikes melodeath says it's good then I'll probably love it. :P
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Album Rating: 4.5
Excellent album
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Album Rating: 4.0
some decent riffs here
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Album Rating: 4.5
legendary
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Album Rating: 4.0
indeed. unsurprisingly, these riffs are even better live.
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Album Rating: 4.5
some decent riffs here [2]
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Album Rating: 3.5
Oh right, this thread. I still have to check Estuary/Estuary of Calamity sometime.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Nice to see other people who appreciate both this and their earlier work.
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Album Rating: 3.0
Without this album, third wave Metalcore would've sounded much different for better or worse.
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Album Rating: 4.0
i think the only reason this gets more backlash than it rightfully should is that it inspired 2000-2007 mallcore
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Album Rating: 3.0
Agreed.
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Album Rating: 4.0
damn this owns
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Album Rating: 5.0
it's become underrated over time because of what it spawned. blinded by fear is goated.
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Album Rating: 3.5
Whether you like this or not, at least we can (hopefully) all agree that Alf leaving the band was one of the biggest tragedies in music.
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Album Rating: 4.0
Idk why people seem to think this was the spawn for all of generic mallcore, idk how much every Asking Alexandria wannabe scenie weenie was thinking hmmmmm I can't wait to jam "Under a Serpent Sun" today hmmmm
If anything the scene would beget more of its own through its own with sommmewhat traceable melodic dm origins.
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Album Rating: 3.0
this was the spawn of killswitch core, not asking alexandria core
get with the program, dedes
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Album Rating: 3.0
What even spawned garbage like Asking Alexandria? BMTH?
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Album Rating: 3.0
this is the question I ask every day, kusa
one-note breakdowns seem to have popped out of nowhere
what was the precursor to it though
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