Album Rating: 5.0
This is the culmination of past and current (for the time) influences creating a monolithic rock masterpiece.
This is two fingers in the face of genre and an exciting expedition into the realms of what can be done.
Revolution Rock you fucks.
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Album Rating: 5.0
A monolithic rock masterpiece (with a teeny amount of filler)
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Album Rating: 2.0
Don't know. Kind of not slick enough for that and it doesn't really feel like it's targeted at mainstream necessarily. Coldplay is pop rock. And there's still quite a bit between this and Coldplay. coldplay is pop rock. but they're ALSO alt rock (not so much recently, but nevertheless). the go-to pop rock band is obviously the beatles. If it would have been released 20 years later, it would have been just termed alt rock probably, cause almost everything that is rock and not clearly defined gets that label. wrong, nothing alternative about this. alt rock and indie rock are fairly easily identifiable through a variety of ways, though usually by means of production.
the close relationship between the two are very akin to the relationship between synthpop and electropop.
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i wouldn't say it's a rock masterpiece, "only" punk/post-punk masterpiece but opinions i guess
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Album Rating: 4.0
It's definitely not jagged enough to be punk.
It's definitely catchy enough (at times) to be pop rock.
It all fits into place imo.
What do you mean by "all"? Like there's only one thing that defines whether something's pop or not. Catchiness is quite common in other genres too, you know.
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Album Rating: 5.0
correct me if I'm wrong but I always thought pop(and pop-rock as an extension) was based upon accessibility and a strict adherence to the "verse-chorus-verse" song structure
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but i can understand sachiko, if most of what i listened daily was bar and drone/noise music you i'd feel everything that is catchy is pop too.
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Album Rating: 5.0
Don't get me wrong I used to think this was a right old mixed bag. I didn't get it for what it actually is. This doesn't mold itself to anything, it tries to be nothing other than its own thing and I spose in that regard it's 'punk' and unfortunately it spawned a billion copyist acts of mainly yank drivel
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Album Rating: 2.0
catchiness is common in other genres because other genres are highly influenced by pop in a primal level no matter how you look at it.
at it's most basic, contemporary music can be divided into pop, rock, electronic, hip-hop, jazz, folk, and experimental and classical too! (most things take a bit from numerous ones, however)
pop is both a abstract concept but also a concrete and tangible one like rock is.
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Album Rating: 4.0
coldplay is pop rock. but they're ALSO alt rock (not so much recently, but nevertheless). the go-to pop rock band is obviously the beatles.
wrong, nothing alternative about this. alt rock and indie rock are fairly easily identifiable through a variety of ways, though usually by means of production.
Well, The Beatles might be pop rock but they're ALSO quite a few other things, after all there's not much poppy about Tomorrow Never Knows apart from its length.
And I've never said that it would fit in well with the alt rock label, I just said it would probably be labelled as such.
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Album Rating: 5.0
I think it could be called new-wave
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Album Rating: 5.0
Hands that slap the kids around cos they don't understand.
I should know, I was one of 'em
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Album Rating: 5.0
It has a certain snottiness about it that feels very punk.
Genre definition has no bearing on quality so...could be listed punk, pop, rock or any combination of those, hardly matters
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Album Rating: 2.0
Well, The Beatles might be pop rock but they're ALSO quite a few other things of course, no doubt. but over all, their entire career can be succinctly summarized in "pop rock", revolutionary, yes, but still pop rock
And I've never said that it would fit in well with the alt rock label, I just said it would probably be labelled as such. fair enough, but that's a stretch imo. the closest thing we get to proto-alt rock is velvet underground, late 70s neo-psych, and late 70s post-punk (but not this kinda post-punk/new wave)
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Album Rating: 5.0
I'd also like to add that there's no filler to be had.
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Album Rating: 4.0
I'm with Doofus. Shame on me for even participating in a useless definition discussion.
Also shame on zak for slapping kids.
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Album Rating: 2.0
yes, genre technically and literally doesn't have any bearing on the quality... however, when something is hailed as a "punk rock classic!", it's more difficult to take seriously when it doesn't feel or sound like punk at all imo.
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spanish bombs goes off
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Album Rating: 5.0
Sorry Zak, if the whole of 'side 4' (lover's rock to train in vain) was sent spinning into the abyss I wouldn't much miss it. The rest of the album is ten times better
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Album Rating: 2.0
lover's rock is lol tbh
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