King Crimson Discipline
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Tracklist:
1. Elephant Talk
2. Frame By Frame
3. Matte Kudasai
4. Indiscipline
5. Thela Hun Ginjeet
6. The Sheltering Sky
7. Discpline

Ranking: #13 for 1981

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Neoteric EMERITUS (104 Reviews)

2008-06-19 | 38 comments | 2,561 views

Summary: one of the best albums i've ever heard

Everytime I walk into a room it's there, the cold bleakness of everything around me. I don't remember when this feeling first started but it was somewhere between the start of high school and the end of my first year. I still remember the day in this period when I first heard Discipline, King Crimson's first 80s album. I had been entranced with the dark setting of Red, and the all-out avant-garde feel of Larks' Tongues in Aspic so I felt it would be a good time to move out of the 70s, and into another decade. Upon first listen, I couldn't take Discipline seriously. Where did all the sharp, trippy tunes go? They evolved, into a massive mess of bouncy, interlocking guitar lines and chapstick action. This was all too much for me, but then I came to my senses and realised: bands develop and grow, sometimes for the better, and sometimes for the worst. My other first impression was that the band was slowly conforming to the popular New Wave genre of the time, but no less, this is distinctly King Crimson.

Profilic session musician Tony Levin kicks off the album, with a crazy chapstick riff in "Elephant Talk", a perfect opener if there ever was one. Tony and Robert's parts collide with each other into one powerful force, accumulating into great chemistry between them. Adrian Belew's vocals and rhythm guitar lines add a sense of spontaneity to the band. While the other members are primarily musicians, he's definitely a bit of a showman and personality. Adrian's yelps of, "Talk, its only talk. Babble, burble, banter, bicker bicker bicker. Brouhaha, boulderdash, ballyhoo. Its only talk..." introduces a sense of eccentricity that is fields away from the serious nature of middle-70s King Crimson.

"Frame By Frame" is our first glimpse of sadness on the record; while the intro continues the story of "Elephant Talk", the song progresses into a dismal atmosphere that illustrates glances of hope. The lyrics don't seem to have any specific meaning, but there is a chance that they are completely interpretational due to their broad nature. The album trails along onto my personal favourite, "Matte Kudasai", a completely chilled-out nostalgic song. The instrumental backing here doesn't go off into virtuoso standards but contains itself to fit the mood of the song. This track also features some of the best vocals on the album. "Indiscipline" crawls along now, and while it's superb, it's certainly a lesser offering from the LP.

However KC don't disappoint and throw out their most erratic song with "Thela Hun Ginjeet" (an anagram for "Heat in the Jungle"). It's funky, spaced out and weirdly fun, but still has a strict King Crimson personality. Robert Fripp plays his guitar in 7/8 time while everything else plays in 4/4, eventually coming into syncopation with each other later. "The Sheltering Sky" shows Fripp and Belew feeding off each other perfectly. Robert Fripp's Frippertronics system is in full effect here with some of the most interesting rhythm guitar I've ever heard. "Discipline" also portrays this profound chemistry between two of the most thought-provoking guitarists ever and creates a flawless statement in minimalism.

Discipline's full-blown 80s sound isn't hard to recognise, especially when everything dabbles in chorus and other sounds that would sound dated coming from any other band. King Crimson made a vital progression with this album, instead of keeping with the same sound like so many of their progressive rock contemporaries. Robert Fripp's guitar lines have never been so refreshing while Tony Levin's chapstick device and Bill Bruford's expansive drum sound have all added another layer to King Crimson's ever growing domain. Red may be more influential and sentimental, but Discipline manages to better it in a lot of different ways. It's sad that In The Court of the Crimson King is considered their best, because in reality, Discipline and Red betters it out by a wide margin. If you're looking for something that's on a complete different level than everything else, Discipline just may interest you.

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ASberg


Comments: 2082
06.19.08


I need to get me some more King Crimson. Nicely done.

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EStreetFan


Comments: 88
06.19.08

Album Rating: 4

Such an underrated album. Sure KC sounded completely different than before, but then didn't they always? Great review.

Digging: My Bloody Valentine - Loveless

McP3000


Comments: 3779
06.19.08


Hmmm? A 5?

Me thinks this should be the next King Crimson album I get. (I already have ItCotKC, ITWoP, Lark's Tongue in Aspic, and Red

Digging: Converge - Petitioning The Empty Sky

foreverendeared


Comments: 4861
06.19.08

Album Rating: 4

this is my 3rd favorite King Crimson album.
Red is first. ItCotKC is first

Digging: Drudkh - Microcosmos

Thor
Contributing Reviewer


Comments: 7998
06.19.08

Album Rating: 4

Awesome album, though I can't give it a 5. The only KC album I can give that to is ITCOTCK. It's just flawless.

Great review though.

Digging: Circle Takes The Square - As The Roots Undo

Cirith Ungol


Comments: 94
06.19.08


Everytime I walk into a room it's there, the cold bleakness of everything around me.
lol

Cirith Ungol


Comments: 94
06.19.08


Robert Fripp plays his guitar in 7/8 time while everything else plays in 4/4, eventually coming into syncopation with each other later.
what

username345


Comments: 594
06.19.08

Album Rating: 4

Awesome album, though I can't give it a 5. The only KC album I can give that to is ITCOTCK. It's just flawless.


Well, except for the boring part of 'Moonchild'.

Neoteric
Emeritus


Comments: 3235
06.19.08

Album Rating: 5

eliminator

@__@

astrel


Comments: 1840
06.19.08


Elephant Talk is one of the best songs of all time.

Digging: Cave In - Jupiter

username345


Comments: 594
06.19.08

Album Rating: 4

Babble, burble, banter, bicker bicker bicker
Brouhaha, boulderdash, ballyhoo

foreverendeared


Comments: 4861
06.19.08

Album Rating: 4

haha such a fun song

Aficionado


Comments: 1026
06.19.08


lol neoteric
stickin to his word since 2008

Digging: Lync - These Are Not Fall Colors

MrKite


Comments: 5014
06.19.08

Album Rating: 4

I don't know why this wasn't the second album of theirs I've listened to. It's the most accessible out In The Court, Red, and Lark's Tongue.

sgrevs


Comments: 645
06.19.08

Album Rating: 4.5

Awesome album, I've had it for a while but haven't listened to it too much. Rating could go up with more listens. Great review too.

Digging: The XX - xx

McP3000


Comments: 3779
06.20.08


[quote=foreverendeared]this is my 3rd favorite King Crimson album.

Red is first. ItCotKC is first[/quote]
wat

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 11099
06.20.08

Album Rating: 4

its excellent but i find a few KC albums are better

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Neoteric
Emeritus


Comments: 3235
06.20.08

Album Rating: 5

lol neoteric

stickin to his word since 2008
you're not funny nor witty


Meatplow


Comments: 2426
06.22.08

Album Rating: 5

After many a listen and tearing it apart very little to fault here, I find.

Neoteric
Emeritus


Comments: 3235
06.22.08

Album Rating: 5

Meatplow has it right.



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