Album Rating: 4.5
I suppose my suffering of not being able to put this lamp together that I just bought is equal to the suffering of a rape victim innit
We're all equals here.
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Album Rating: 2.5
Sounds about right.
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"Who are you to say what is suffering and what isn't suffering? That's like saying this post is less post than your post."
by this logic: who are you to say what suffering is more genuine than other suffering?
i guess by literal definition suffering is just "experience or be subjected to (something bad or unpleasant)." so u could count james blake being peeved about his gf being on her phone too much but i personally view "suffering" as a case of greater adversity than that, and would argue that not liking your gf being on her phone is a lot closer to having a pet peeve than suffering.
but if you use an example thats more reasonable and not intentionally inflammatory for the sake of being overly sarcastic then we can make some more sense of it
the suffering of someone with a broken heart is definitely equal to the suffering of someone born the wrong gender. its all a matter of perspective. each person experiences suffering to its fullest, regardless of what you, from an outside perspective, deem to be MOAR INTENSE SUFFERING they still feel it just the same.
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yeah honestly you undermined all of your own credibility in this argument when you said
"Who are you to say what is suffering and what isn't suffering?"
like that is literally the antithesis of your point. you're literally in here arguing that you are someone to judge what suffering is more authentic than other suffering like you are an omniscient being that gets to feel everyones personal pain and then rank it but u are offended by me saying there is a difference between suffering and being ticked off
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Album Rating: 4.5
Lol at that comment by Anthracks about how the Anohni record has "true" suffering compared to this. That record is the most politically contrived, disingenuous bullshit I've heard in a while. Some white American wallowing in imagined heartache of being a drone bomb victim in Afghanistan or having a brother sent to Guantanamo is peak navel-gazing white liberal guilt. Spare me.
All of a sudden you're a villain if you sympathize with the suffering of those who are in truly fucked times. All of a sudden you're a villain if you try to keep those issues in the public consciousness. How can you actually try to spin that she's being disingenuous by bringing those topics to light? Because she didn't actually get blown up? Give me a break.
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"I suppose my suffering of not being able to put this lamp together that I just bought is equal to the suffering of a rape victim innit"
yeah this one is really stupid too. there is no metaphysical adversity in not being able to put together a lamp. you are intentionally using poor examples that devalue the idea of suffering and then comparing them to examples that actually mark the cornerstone of facing adversity. very problematic attitudes you have bud.
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i do however agree that lucids comment was fucking terrible tho
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Album Rating: 4.5
She wasn't born the wrong gender, she was born the wrong sex. And it's that kind of misunderstanding that proves why people like you are completely incapable of processing the kind of things people like that go through.
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nothing worse than bishes on their phones all day agreed
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"She wasn't born the wrong gender, she was born the wrong sex. And it's that kind of misunderstanding that proves why people like you are completely incapable of processing the kind of things people like that go through."
whoops, yeah sorry my bad. i meant sex, you're right gender was the wrong word.
but no that doesnt prove anything about 'people like me' (holy fuck dude get it together) and im very sympathetic to the issue.
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Album Rating: 4.5
Again, who are you to tell me that my suffering isn't real or genuine? Or that I'm not hurt enough to fall under your definition of suffering? There's no spectrum on dictionary.com
1.
to undergo or feel pain or distress:
I feel distress. I am suffering. It is equal to losing a baby. According to you (NOT ME).
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Album Rating: 3.5
if the word genuine was replaced by a word like justifiable then anthracks' examples make more sense.
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Album Rating: 4.5
"Who are you to say what is suffering and what isn't suffering?"
"She wasn't born the wrong gender, she was born the wrong sex. And it's that kind of misunderstanding that proves why people like you are completely incapable of processing the kind of things people like that go through."
You do realize in quotes like those I am adopting your logic in a sarcastic manner to prove how faulty it is?
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Album Rating: 4.5
if the word genuine was replaced by a word like justifiable then anthracks' examples make more sense.
Of course it makes sense. People just like to dissect word-by-word on the internet when they know exactly what I fucking meant in the first place. If I had known my English professors were all up in this thread I would have proofread and selected more exact words.
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well no, i already elaborated that when we are talking about this kind of suffering, i quantify it as metaphysical adversity. its pretty easy to quantify that. if you want to have an argument about suffering where you can wantonly throw the word at ANY feeling of discomfort that could be easily just marked as frustration or disgruntlement thats an entirely different story and then in that case i would agree with you. but in the case that suffering marks a greater case of adversity than mundane frustrations then no, i dont agree with you.
"Again, who are you to tell me that my suffering isn't real or genuine? "
but this is literally the point you are trying to convince us of, that some suffering is more real or genuine than others so you're actually just arguing against yourself at this point and the hypocrisy runs very deep
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Album Rating: 4.5
Dude I'm just using the definition of suffering and suffer in the dictionary. You can have your own definition, that's cool, but the fact remains that Antony writes more real shit than James Blake will ever be capable of because she has actually spent the majority of her life in profound suffering.
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"You do realize in quotes like those I am adopting your logic in a sarcastic manner to prove how faulty it is?
Of course it makes sense. People just like to dissect word-by-word on the internet when they know exactly what I fucking meant in the first place. If I had known my English professors were all up in this thread I would have proofread and selected more exact words."
ok well thats your own issue, i took what you were saying at face-value and i cant apologize that your overbearing sarcasm is debilitating to your ability to prove a point and make coherent arguments. thats a you problem. you should probably just try to not be so bitterly sarcastic all the time.
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Album Rating: 4.0
"Dude I'm just using the definition of suffering and suffer in the dictionary"
why is everyone that says this a total tool
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Album Rating: 4.0
I think we can all agree we've had a jolly good cathartic time in the sputnikdotcom universe
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Album Rating: 4.5
My choice of the word 'genuine' has nothing to do with sarcasm or "taking it at face value." It's a word selection that wasn't 100% accurate to the thought I wanted to put across because I don't spend four minutes proof-reading my internet posts.
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