Trophy Scars Astral Pariah
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Veldin
September 17th 2021


5273 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Read thru the lyrics but I still have questions. Was trying to figure out significance of Turpentine and found an article discussing it during this time period: http://civilwarrx.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-civil-war-pharmaceutical-turpentine.html?m=1



What happens to the brother? Is the whole family drinking angel blood or just Father? If mother and sister die then they couldn’t have bc they’d be immortal right? Or are they still susceptible to being killed? In Holy Vacants they die and and become ghosts stuck in purgatory right? I’m very curious about Cosmic Suicide- someone seems to have died but I’m not sure if it was protagonist or Father? I assume the son is hunting his family bc he believes they’ve sinned due to their involvement in murdering angels. Throughout there are references to God and almost sounds like the protagonist is considered a God? Hmm many questions but I’m enjoying it. Now that I’ve read thru the lyrics, I’ll continue listening and trying to decipher the story and it’s connections to Holy Vacants.

JohnnyoftheWell
Staff Reviewer
September 17th 2021


60547 Comments

Album Rating: 4.3

didn't think there was much more to turpentine beyond a highly flammable household commodity being q a cogent title for a tone-setting instrumental, but maybe there's deep lore

"almost sounds like the protagonist is considered a God?"

maybe, or does apply to the Father? took that line as the Brother jibing the protag, like lol do you rly wanna go there? also thought the implication in Father 2 was that the Father was the one murdering angels on behalf of the whole family (and potentially that he's already dead, like the HV protags), but might be wrong and am also unsure where that leaves the protag's original murder motivation

Dewinged
Staff Reviewer
September 17th 2021


32047 Comments


wtf are u people talking about?

JohnnyoftheWell
Staff Reviewer
September 17th 2021


60547 Comments

Album Rating: 4.3

the ticket to eternal life babe

Dewinged
Staff Reviewer
September 17th 2021


32047 Comments


I'll take the same as this gentleman.

Storm In A Teacup
September 17th 2021


45784 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Im gonna be immortal through making a couple of good songs and them living on the internet.

troisdouzemerde
September 17th 2021


35 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Regarding what happens to Brother,



"Yeah, I'll eat your pain

Destroy that pretty face

...

Sit back, enjoy the show"



To me this is very evocative of putting the barrel of the gun in Brother's mouth and killing him, or at least the submitting to protag/god. Mother refers to protag as her god



"My only god is you, my love"



Father refers to protag as a god



"In my eyes you are a god"



Protag considers themselves a god in Pestilent Star



"I am the god without a god"



and in Astral Pariah I sense a bitter sarcasm from protag (as god) mocking the god he was raised on (as he is killing his family he asks "Who’s god cares the most?")



and so when Brother ends with



"Don't got the space to fight with fucking God"



I see it as the final submitting to the barrel in the mouth. Dead like the rest of them.

troisdouzemerde
September 17th 2021


35 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Now the real question... Assuming Father is in HV killing angels, does the record Astral Pariah end with protag shooting Father in the mouth, but Father proceeds to not die?In Cosmic Suicide it is clear that blood has splattered everywhere related to a head wound by a line like



"You don't seem to mind at all, do ya?"



which >could< imply Father is alive (with the capability of minding or not) followed up much more definitively by



"You're shrieking in fear"



which Father could only do if he wasn't dead.



I'm word vomiting, I don't know jack shit. 🤷‍♂️

Veldin
September 17th 2021


5273 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Cool interpretations. I agree with the story about what happens to the brother and yeah seems the father is still alive having been shot.

WalrusTusk
September 17th 2021


1814 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

This album is good, but I must be missing something because it's not wowing me as much as it's interesting some of y'all.





SharkTooth
September 17th 2021


14922 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Wait the father is the male lead in Holy Vacants? Where are you getting this info from



Also while we're at it, do we know what exactly the son here is seeking vengeance for? The album doesn't put much too much of a backstory

Veldin
September 17th 2021


5273 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I think the father being in HV is just theory atm. Needs more evidence.

And I believe the main character is seeking vengeance because his family resorted to hunting and killing angels. Still trying to figure out how literal of a “god” role the protagonist takes. “Prodigal son”, so how special is this main character?

Veldin
September 18th 2021


5273 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Now go listen to the title track “The Good Son” by Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds lol

g40st
September 18th 2021


917 Comments


After listening to this untold number of times I can confidently say nothing here touches Trazodone.

lucazade22
September 18th 2021


803 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Mother and Brother aside not sure this is clicking yet

GPooch21
September 18th 2021


184 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Trophy Scars has never let me down or disappointed me with any release. It still boggles my mind how they are considered one of the gods of the genre

JohnnyoftheWell
Staff Reviewer
September 19th 2021


60547 Comments

Album Rating: 4.3

I think Brother has finally clicked with me. Viva family woo

gravityswitch
September 19th 2021


1906 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

lmao that page, I really need to try drugs

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
September 20th 2021


47652 Comments

Album Rating: 3.1

my impression was protag does kill Father, and the closer is actually Jerry-as-omniscient-narrator talking to protag instead of the "shrieking in fear" lines being about Father. similar to every release from Bad Luck to HV breaking the fourth wall a bit with the closer just being about Jerry's life



but idk. would be easier to engage with this if the fucking cacophony of instruments didn't drown out the vox every two minutes. it's better than my first impression, still having trouble buying it as great

Mythodea
September 20th 2021


7457 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

so, this album is good huh? Listening today and it's just so good and dense. Doesn't even come close to Holy Vacants yet, though



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