when you've heard a much larger range of post-hardcore styles like sniper has you're able to group subsubgenres together a little more
ie: guy who's heard 4 black metal bands "omg these are all so different and unique"
guy who's heard 100 black metal bands "well actually those 4 bands all play a pretty similar style when taken in the larger context"

Also,

''on acceptance speech will ended up using that technique animals as leaders use all the time. THE SLAPPING SHIT OR WHATEVER IT IS''

Made me laugh pretty hard.

so sure it's subjective to that extent but there's definitely an element of objectivity where he's in a better position to make that determination, too
doesn't necessarily make Mortimus (or I really don't know this user that well I'm just using him as an example) wrong per se; he's just in a far worse position to make a judgement

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yeah and that's what I was badly trying to say. to me, dance gavin dance, fall of troy, and a lot like birds and are in a different subsubgenre to a lot of other post hardcore bands. or at least, that's what I was trying to say

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@seaanemone dude I have listened to a lot of post hardcore . that's why one of my comments said "yeah but that's generalising dgd to a large extent" as in it was comparing them to post hardcore in a very wide sense which I disagreed with

Ever since I discovered The Fall Of Troy, I've been seeking out similar bands and found dozens, I used to have a blog with tons of bands that were largely influenced by them. They weren't necessarily the same, luckily, but I would certainly put them in the same category as TFOT, DGD, ALLB, etc.

eh okay I mean I could be wrong about you in particular I was just using you as a characterization for that issue which I see a lot (especially with bands of this ilk where *fan who's heard every Emery and Fall of Troy record go oh yeah p-hxc that's my shit* is prevalent)

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yeah, I mean I wasn't exactly using a shit ton of examples so that's fair. its just I started thinking of dgd as separate to what I usually consider post hardcore a while ago



@swordsforhands that's cool man, what bands would they be?

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the less I know about post-hardcore the better

I'll put the link on your profile.

and mortimus do you get what I'm saying though?... like when I said in the example "only heard 4 bands" that's a lotta hyperbole; usually it's more like "has heard every single La Dispute, Refused, Dance Gavin Dance lookalike band that arose in the mid 2000s but hasn't heard any of the post-hardcore from the 90s," (I mean cmon it's still only 1 or 2 distinct styles - doesn't matter how many bands you've heard) where there were styles that were noisy, emo, post-rock-y, closer to straight-up hardcore, more progressive bands that thankfully didn't approach anything near rx bandits or ALLB etc.

can always count on trebor as a library of life experience and knowledge

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I learned more the last three days on set than I did in a whole year of film school



Maybe I should play guitar in a post-hardcore band and learn something

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@seaanemone yeah man I got a bit obsessed with post hardcore in a few years ago and ended up spending long amounts of time googling its origins and the bands that came about in the nineties and so forth. cant say I dig much of it, but im certainly aware of it

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it's not even purely a matter of technicality, it's a matter of how it's used and tone



like DGD and ALLB are both pretty technical but DGD's goofy whereas ALLB's serious



TFOT treads the line between goofy and serious, leaning towards goofy

and mortimus do you get what I'm saying though?... like when I said in the example "only heard 4 bands" that's a lotta hyperbole; usually it's more like "has heard every single La Dispute, Refused, Dance Gavin Dance lookalike band that arose in the mid 2000s but hasn't heard any of the post-hardcore from the 90s," (I mean cmon it's still only 1 or 2 distinct styles - doesn't matter how many bands you've heard) where there were styles that were noisy, emo, post-rock-y, closer to straight-up hardcore, more progressive bands that thankfully didn't approach anything near rx bandits or ALLB etc.

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the post-hardcore man always rings twice

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what the fuck what's up with all the ALLB hate lol

keep post-hardcore alive m/

I mean I only mentioned them in passing along with like 7 other bands in that paragraph