"In the 2000s, The term hardcore has been applied to some bands that play death metal, metalcore or thrash metal. Typical of this new genre are breakdowns and harshly delivered vocals; sometimes verging on death metal growls."

Ah, Wikipedia. Bringing information directly to the fanboys.

Album Rating: 2.0

number one i'm not a fanboy cause i dont even like this band. number two i used that quote to make a point that just because hardcore meant something 25 years ago when it started doesn't mean it still means the same thing today. i understand the origins of the term hardcore. i know this. but sounds change over decades. there are a lot of bands who keep the original concept of hardcore in their sound and their are bands like this one who over the years have developed it into a different sound.



i dont have faux-"hardcore" friends cause my friends generally arent big music fans. i have one friend who is a music fan but he is strictly melodic black metal with some death metal thrown in there.

Album Rating: 3.0

Jesus Christ. You idiots went through five pages of arguing over which subgenre these guys belong to?!?!? Sheesh. They're a decent band but it still doesn't deserve a four. I think if you really want to fit into the "this band is OK" category, then you should rate their album accordingly. 4 does not equal "okay". A 3 or 2.5 would be sufficient. And really guys, metal is metal is metal. Don't argue over what band is pigeonholed where, or which deviation is better. It's all metal at the end of the world.

This is obviously hardmelogrinddeathmetalcore.

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

[quote=Josh D.]

This is the most laughable first few pages of a review ever, only rivaled by my A7X ranting.



I will just say this: people, please stop using Wikipedia quotes to try to prove a point when arguing genres.[/quote]



Hilariously enough that's what you're doing. Judge things by how similar they are to the pioneers of a genre.



Metalcore should resemble bands like Botch and Skycamefalling.

Death metal should resemble bands like Entombed and Immolation.

Melodic death should resemble bands like At The Gates and Dark Tranquillity.



etc.

4 does not equal "okay".

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

[quote=ZooYorker6]

You're saying that to Cocaine? You must have a death wish.[/quote]

You said the same shit to me, and yet Tyler agrees with me, l2p newb.This Message Edited On 10.31.07

I wasn't so much agreeing on whether these guys are melodeath or not, I was just trying to help mappy out since you guys were all ganging up on him without even justifying your stances.

Album Rating: 3.5

These guys are closer to "deathcore" than Melodic Death Metal. I don't find them that Melodic, more like straight up Death Metal with melodic solos with hardcore breakdowns and lyrics.



TBDM is Melodic Death Metal.

Light This City is more Thrash/Melodic Death Metal.



lol, I hope this doesn't put more fuel on the fire:D

I don't consider this band melodic death metal. I like the Black Dahlia Murder, but I also don't consider them melodic death metal (that's just me though). Personally, I don't think any melodic death outside of mainland Europe is worthy of my ears.

That pwnage was quite enjoyable to read.

I found this album dull. The high pitched vocals just annoyed me, and the music wasn't anything I'd tell my mum about.

Album Rating: 3.0

Their not metalcore. Their not melodeath. I'd say that they are hard to define.....more like Deathcore/Grindcore.

Album Rating: 3.0

DeathGrind :oThis Message Edited On 11.01.07

Why don't we call them slightlymelodicbutnotreallydeathygrindymetalCORE

but in the case of bring me the horizon, i'd say call them arsecore because their music sucks

shit metal is best term then

Album Rating: 3.0

Nah.

Album Rating: 1.5

BMTH fits the **** metal tag perfectly.

Album Rating: 1.5

I haven't listened to the whole thing yet but I'm pretty sure I've already reached my conclusion. SUCKS!

Album Rating: 3.0

Despite what others say i still find this album very enjoyable.I don't like the members, nor do i like their look. I do however enjoy the one thing that matters the music.Not everyone likes the same thing, thats fine. I how ever love this album I think the breakdowns are sick, the vocals scathing and unrelentless and the guitar and drums why not very technical are very enjoyable. For Stevie Wonders Eyes and I Used To Make Out.. are metal staples i think.

Album Rating: 1.5

I like the vocals but everything else about the music ruins it for me.

Album Rating: 2.5

The vocals are terrible.



The drumming is okay, nothing interesting though. Plus, they used to be the biggest Norma Jean ripoff ever. Everything about them is lame - enough said. The review wasn't too bad I guess.