Sleep Token Take Me Back to Eden
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veninblazer
May 21st 2023


16839 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Why do I get the feeling he wouldn't be this harsh if ST were a relative unknown and not a band that's blowing up like crazy rn? I mean this dude hates Nine Inch Nails too so.

DocSportello
May 21st 2023


3376 Comments


yes let us have this breakdown

Tundra
May 21st 2023


9714 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

classic case of band gets popular therefore is hated

zooky
May 21st 2023


2 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

hearing the reviewer unironically write the words "tiktok band" told me everything lmao

DocSportello
May 21st 2023


3376 Comments


classic case of straw man making critics look better than ever

DadKungFu
Staff Reviewer
May 21st 2023


4882 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

If the petri dish sample from Jared Leto's mouth learned to play instruments

Sinternet
Contributing Reviewer
May 21st 2023


26593 Comments


i don't think this band being 'unknown' would stop this sucking ass, the only benefit would not having heard of it in the first place

which actually are this band even 'mainstream' anyway? i keep loose eyes on this scene (more through osmosis of adjacent stuff that isnt as shite) but can honsetly say i'd never heard of them until 2-3 days ago, whch i can't say for what might actually be mainstream (or as close as this style gets) bands like a polyphia or something.

DarkNoctus
May 21st 2023


12210 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

if someone told me this was entirely AI created i'd believe them

veninblazer
May 21st 2023


16839 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"i don't think this band being 'unknown' would stop this sucking ass, the only benefit would not having heard of it in the first place"

i mean i see your point but also like

a lot of people seem to coddle underground artists even when they suck and they feel obligated to be "nicer" to them. this band blew up to 2M streams and a bunch of people hyping it here so they're able to be mask off. plus johnny's history of bagging on "more popular" artists in favor of lesser known - Nine Inch Nails for an example, this reaction seems entirely expected.

"if someone told me this was entirely AI created i'd believe them"

if this was AI generated I'd be scared for the future because it means AI magically gained the ability to feel emotion.

Kompys2000
Emeritus
May 21st 2023


9467 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Maybe it's mean and pointless to shit on hobbyists with 35 Spotify listeners and having 2m streams makes you idk accountable to an audience or something

porcupinetheater
May 21st 2023


11032 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

venin don't go in for the lowest hanging fruit



It ain't low hanging if it already fell off the tree

Purpl3Spartan
May 21st 2023


8643 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Drink everytime venin brings up emotion or atmosphere

MoM
May 21st 2023


5994 Comments


@Venin
but is that why Johnny bags on NIN or is that just convenient to your point? I’ve seen Johnny shit all over lesser known artists regularly and praise some things that are well-liked. These guys gargle plastic vomit regardless of their horny teen-poetry-loving Reddit-hype

This shit has emotion like Machine Gun Kelly and his label execs started listening to post-rock and reading Milk and Honey

Groundking
May 21st 2023


2286 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

'are this band even 'mainstream' anyway?'



In the space of about a year they've gone from playing 500 cap venues to 2k cap venues here in the UK and any metal act that can play 2k cap venues is basically mainstream.

veninblazer
May 21st 2023


16839 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"Drink everytime venin brings up emotion or atmosphere in any sort of arbitrary or vague manner"

I'd rather not be responsible for anyone getting alcohol poisoning so tell them to drink Pepsi or something.

"but is that why Johnny bags on NIN or is that just convenient to your point? I’ve seen Johnny shit all over lesser known artists regularly and praise some things that are well-liked. These guys gargle plastic vomit regardless of their horny teen-poetry-loving Reddit-hype" he'd always try to downplay Reznor's success and shit on the idea that he's one of the best vocalists of the 90s next to Cobain, Staley, etc. by out of nowhere saying "sKiNnY pUpPy bEtTeR" which, maybe they are, but I doubt the vocals are as conducive to what I look for.

YoYoMancuso
Staff Reviewer
May 21st 2023


18875 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Yeah Johnny likes plenty of “popular” artists, bad take

DocSportello
May 21st 2023


3376 Comments


venin let me tell you something, and this is something everybody's gotta learn sometime as Beck sez, if you love Music you literally stop caring about underground/mainstream mechanics as these things are bound by Social Contexts that only distance u from the joy of Music itself. free yourself! let people be your definition of Pretentious and try not to assume the worst in people before u do ur homework. it is only fair : )

valek
May 21st 2023


430 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Sputnik and the sputnik circlejerking, it is so fun, im gonna sit and read for a while.

Kompys2000
Emeritus
May 21st 2023


9467 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

good review btw, agreed re: the suffocating humorlessness but my bigger issue on the tracks I heard was the gross slick digital production sound, no grit whatsoever (see also periphery and every band that bites them)

veninblazer
May 21st 2023


16839 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"venin let me tell you something, and this is something everybody's gotta learn sometime as Beck sez, if you love Music you literally stop caring about underground/mainstream mechanics as these things are bound by Social Contexts that only distance u from the joy of Music itself. free yourself! let people be your definition of Pretentious and try not to assume the worst in people before u do ur homework. it is only fair : )"

at this point i feel like johnny becoming staff took him from being a humble dude with a unique taste to being egotistical and pretentious about his opinions, i miss the old johnny



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