Ugh. I can't be bothered. Sure, all centrism boils down to is to "not take a stand for what's right because some opposition exists" let's leave it at that incredibly reductive and oversimplified description and move on to how generic this ep sounds, and talk about how Thrice haven't been that good for a while.

please SJWmusic, explain what centrism means to you

Album Rating: 3.0

For me the most frustrating part of Dustin's recent lyricism isn't necessarily its centrist platitudes (though yeah, in a political climate like this, it's kinda lazy and disingenuous to preach equivalence of offense for the sake of compromise - there's a time and place for it, and this isn't one). Nah, the most annoying thing is that judging by his Twitter posts and whatnot, he's still intellectually engaged in plenty of specific issues yet fails to bring any of that deeper context over into his lyric writing. He's playing it safe with the most widely interpretable lines possible, which in turn makes it seem like he's detached from the nuances of these issues and can tolerate circumstances far worse than what he otherwise seems to stand for.

You guys nailed it. It means being undecided on every political matter. We're all confused as hell and have no loyalty or morals.

And yeah I hate being white. We're just the worst. So much racism in 2019. I'd argue it's gotten worse over time.

ok thanks SJWmusic for your brilliant insight

Np

Centism, leftism, conservatism are all part of the same religion. Statism

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

Ah yes, the leftist dream of a stateless society is part of the religion of statism.



Ashcrash nailed it though, Dustin at least has some views but we're getting the most generic lyricism out of it. It's not inspiring in the slightest

TBEITBN is pretty explicit in its anti-imperialism at times. Black Honey is obviously about US oil wars in the middle east, and Death From Above is about drone strikes and civilian casualties fueling resistance fighters who then are branded as "terrorists."
But yeah, a lot of Dustin's lyrics wallow too much in this naive sort of "can't we all just get along" attitude that is very centrist. Not to mention that they're not remotely as intriguing on a poetic level as they were back in the Vheissu/Alchemy/Beggars days.

Album Rating: 3.0

yeah tbh TBEITBN's lyrics don't bother me outside a few select spots like "Wake Up." They only really fell backward with Palms imo

Leftism and stateless society? By increasing the power of the government, we shall topple it? Ok guy.

Anyways, Dustin's always had political lyrics. The problem is that up until Palms, they've been multi-layered and affecting. The new lyrics just lack the adventurousness they used to contain and are just generic "us vs them" statements that you can find on any POD record.

Album Rating: 2.5

"Not to mention that they're not remotely as intriguing on a poetic level as they were back in the Vheissu/Alchemy/Beggars days. "



yup yup yup. TBEITN was okay in this department because the songs at least had some sort of stance. But Alchemy had its politics ("Broken Lungs", "The Sky is Falling") and they were so, so much better. Post-comeback Thrice seems steeped in this "less is more" mentality lyrically. But I (and, presumably, many others) fell in love with Dustin's ability to paint word pictures, even if they were of pretty simple topics. It's fine for Dustin to evolve as an artist and all that, but I'm just not really into this version of him

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>Leftism and stateless society? By increasing the power of the government, we shall topple it? Ok guy.



A stateless and classless society is literally the definition of communism. Reading a book would do you well

lol it's almost like leftism doesn't mean just one thing.

I'm not sure you know what statism is. Communism is literally statism of the economic class by abolishing private property and the government taking ownership of the means of production.

Sorry, duplicate

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I'm not sure what "statism of the economic class" means. I've trod in ancap circles because I used to be one, and I'm quite familiar with the philosophy. For a lot of people, I think their heart is in the right place. They don't want to use violence to as a means of acquiring wealth, but rather go through a process of voluntary agreement where each person is free to make their own decisions.



Communists take those fundamental beliefs a step further:



First, that claims of private property (land, natural resources, and capital not being used as someone's own personal property) are a form of theft to begin with. Private property is insured by the state, so that businesses and wealthy individuals may pass down their wealth generationally within the working class and only share a fraction of it with the working class to maintain their consent. A supposedly stateless capitalist society would still use businesses to act as a state, to insure claims of private property. It just wouldn't require any consent of the working class.

Album Rating: 3.5

This band has ALWAYS been political. Half the songs on The Artist in the Ambulance are attacking the Bush administration.

Album Rating: 4.5

This review is not that good after all, eh?