Protest the Hero Kezia
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Tyler
Emeritus
January 27th 2006


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It's not a concept album, it's a requiem, an enigma. The lyrics all intertwine and the metaphors are used for you to set your own story. The three acts represent three views; each character represents a view of the band and their telling of the situation is used as a metaphor for the bands morals. To each his own though. I should probably edit this, I saw them for the 28th time the other day.This Message Edited On 01.26.06

Usedcraig
February 6th 2006


1 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

siccc review, now i can better understand whats happening..

fuck i love this band :pThis Message Edited On 02.05.06

204409
Emeritus
February 6th 2006


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Once again, I'd like to announce that this band is incredibly overrated.

Tyler
Emeritus
February 6th 2006


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Once again I'd like to announce that your opinion isnt important and I'm sure the band couldnt care less.

Zesty Mordant
February 7th 2006


1196 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5



Once again I'd like to announce that your opinion isnt important and I'm sure the band couldnt care less.




why isn't his opinion important? More importantly, saying the band couldn't care doesn't invalidate his opinion.



Given DFelon's knowledge of music in this area, I think he's pretty professional.

204409
Emeritus
February 7th 2006


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

No, he's right. I felt badly about how much I felt this band was overrated so I called up my buddies in Protest the Hero. They really don't care about my opinion. They added that they had a long talk with every user on sputnikmusic.com and came to the conclusion that my opinon isn't important.

Tyler
Emeritus
February 7th 2006


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

No, your opinion isnt important because you're mindlessly spewing your "metalcore" knowledge for a band that's not metalcore. Nobody cares if this band is overrated, that's not the point of my review. I flat out said it's a bias review because they are my favourite band, you coming in with literally nothing constructive to say adds nothing.This Message Edited On 02.06.06

204409
Emeritus
February 7th 2006


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Just because it isn't constructive doesn't mean it isn't true. You're just testy about anybody getting near your precious PTH. Listen to the good version of this band: Between the Buried and Me.

Zesty Mordant
February 7th 2006


1196 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Nobody cares if this band is overrated, that's not the point of my review.




But you obviously care that such comments are being made. And you have to accept the fact that some people may disagree with you.



I flat out said it's a bias review because they are my favourite band, you coming in with literally nothing constructive to say adds nothing.




But if its a bias review, then that it brings nothing constructive or critical in the first place. Reviews are called reviews for a reason, they are not called ads.

Florgan
February 7th 2006


11 Comments


Both of you, Zesty Mordant and DeFelon, ought to flush that sand from your vaginas. Honestly, love or hate them, the cats in Protest are likely your age or younger and more accomplished than either of you will ever be. Just pay credit where it's due and leave your inflated egos out of this.
And DeFelon, mature beyond the prepubecent copy-and-paste punk techniques of NoFx and Strung Out before commenting again. It's true, your opinion doesn't matter.

204409
Emeritus
February 7th 2006


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Haha Florgan, you're a fluff account who probably knows Cocaine&Crucifixes in real life. But that's not the problem. I do pay credit where it's due. Florgan it seems you're missing out on a crucial point of a lot of music. You assert credit needs to be payed. Where? PTH is contrived and awkward in their "technicality" which is obviously their main selling point and attraction. They posture as if they're a scene Dream Theater that can write melodramatic and grandiose lyrics. They're not. They're pretentious and cheesy. If anybody has used copy and paste techniques it's PTH. They lift riffs and their whole entire aesthetic from Between the Buried and Me. NOFX and Strung Out may copy and paste too, but they're songwriters before they are musicians, which is what PTH is missing completely as are you. You're one in need of maturation if you can't recognize that emotional content is always going to eclipse technical content. Bands like Against Me!, NOFX, Lagwagon, and No Use for a Name can draw from a shallow pool of intellectual and instrumental material but still forge songs that can instill a genuinely beautiful emotional reaction in a lot of people, me included. Protest the Hero is no more than the sputterings of pompous copycats, who, yes, are likely my age or younger.

Tyler
Emeritus
February 7th 2006


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Just the fact that you compare them to Between The Buried and Me further proves you dont know what you're talking about. Oh, and to say I can't be bias yet critique the album is pretty inane, especially if you'd actually read my review.

204409
Emeritus
February 7th 2006


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Please give me a cogent proof on how they do not steal Between the Buried and Me's aesthetic. (You can't use the argument that PTH takes themselves far too seriously).

Tyler
Emeritus
February 7th 2006


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I'd rather hear your proof on how they did. Yeah, some parts may strike similarities to Alaska, but they're mostly co-incidental as this album was in progress long before Alaska. Any other similarity is more due to influence than anything.

Tyler
Emeritus
February 7th 2006


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Can I ask who negged this without a comment?

Zesty Mordant
February 7th 2006


1196 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

[QUOTE=Florgan] Both of you, Zesty Mordant and DeFelon, ought to flush that sand from your vaginas. Honestly, love or hate them, the cats in Protest are likely your age or younger and more accomplished than either of you will ever be. Just pay credit where it's due and leave your inflated egos out of this. [/QUOTE]



So by that logic, no one can criticize anybody deemed higher in experience and thus, talent? In that case, given that I've had more experience- and thus talent- than you when it comes to writing reviews for this site, you have no right to criticize my opinion.



[QUOTE=Florgan] It's true, your opinion doesn't matter. [/QUOTE]



Once again, why does his opinion not matter? Oh what a democracy we live in.

EDIT: To mods, I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I merely want to ask questions in a legit manner. This Message Edited On 02.06.06

204409
Emeritus
February 7th 2006


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

No no no. Aesthetic. That's different than the actual content. Obviously they're different in that regard especially because PTH has clean vocals most of the time. However think about their approach to creating music and the general contruction of their music. They alternate between genres and flavors and tempos not just from song to song or passage to passage but from phrase to phrase at some points. They melt together metal, hardcore, and progressive metal and are incredibly cheesy. Just listen to the vocal passage from that song with the long title about digging graves by PTH as a brief example. They have their high pitched clean tone as the primary vocal but include high pitched screaming, midrange screaming, death metal grunts, and falsetto singing, all in a rather spastic and purposefully (and contrivedly) "technical" fashion. This is an idea directly taken from Between the Buried and Me whose vocalist jumps through all of those styles in the course of many of their songs. The number one difference is that BTBAM is self aware of how ridiculous their fusion of ideas is and writes lyrics that complement that style, whereas PTH takes themselves seriously and are rendered pretentious and foolishly lofty because of it.

Tyler
Emeritus
February 7th 2006


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

So you're attacking my reviews because of a comment he made? Yeah, I know him in real life, but it doesnt alter the fact he's a fan of the band too. His opinion doesnt matter because he's just saying "Oh, It's overrated". Wow, a lot of thought thrown into that one.



Seriously though who negged this review? I want to at least know why it's so poorly written so I can avoid such mistakes in future reviews.



OH, and takes themselves seriously? Taking your music seriously and yourself seriously are not one in the same. Oh, and Tommy, he's a terrible vocalist. You're saying because their styles are varied it's like Between the Buried and Me? Yes, they were an influence but that's it. This Message Edited On 02.06.06

204409
Emeritus
February 7th 2006


3998 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

[quote=Zesty Testes]Once again, why does his opinion not matter? Oh what a democracy we live in.

EDIT: To mods, I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I merely want to ask questions in a legit manner.

[/quote]



I am a mod. Ha.

Florgan
February 7th 2006


11 Comments


You just wrote a veritible essay without saying anything.
It's ridiculous to call a freshman release "contrived", the adjective just doesn't fit. Kezia ventured into new territory for PTH, artistic areas that prior were only admired by the band. Drawing from a myriad of classical and modern influences, not mere variations of metal -- from Les Mis, to Katherine Mansfeild and Yukio Mishima, to Necrophagist and The Red Chord. (You repeatedly draw similarities to BTBAM; admittedly, the band does draw an influence, but is more adjacent than parallel.)
And "pretentious"? You obviously don't know the guys. They live by the aphorism 'take your craft seriously, by not yourself'. ("Choady", as the lead singer calls himself, is renowned fro his makeshift recordings of a Sci-Fi suburban-drama called "Space Wars: The Last Final Beginning"). This attitude is contrasted by the arrogant political impositions of the bands you've referenced (namely NoFx). I have no problem with bands like Propaghandi, who write sincere and profound tunes without the greatest musicianship. But how can songs about the 'punk rawk' show, getting smashed, and skateboarding be emotional?
Frankly, bro, your criticsms don't have any sturdy support.



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