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spiritII 03-18-2005 02:17 PM

Pearl Reference Series
 
[url]http://www.pearldrum.com/thestory.html[/url]

It's an interesting concept, and the reasoning is sound enough, but one has to wonder how much better, if any, they sound. Thoughts anyone?

Everything_and_Nothing_3:15 03-18-2005 02:21 PM

I think they're nice drums but I want to hear and see them in person before I come to a final desicion about them, but I have not doubt that Pearl hasn't failed us.

spiritII 03-18-2005 02:27 PM

Of course, if they sound as good as Pearl say, they've just raised the bar for everyone else.

Half Life 03-18-2005 05:03 PM

I think the Reference drums are going to be something quite unique. If I had the opportunity to buy a new set of drums, I would definitely consider them, although I have a feeling they are going to be very pricey.

Damo 03-18-2005 06:22 PM

I dont see the big deal with them personally.

The Masters and Masterworks drums should give everything youd ever want in a drumkit.

Carn 03-18-2005 06:51 PM

[QUOTE=Damo]I dont see the big deal with them personally.

-pearl promo talk-[/QUOTE]

Most brands have great sounding kits. If you get in a certain price league, a drumset will be of a such quality that the sound is good. All that remains is the fact if you like that certain sound.

Personally, I consider Pearl drums to sound like flat rat turds. But thats just my taste.

White Riot! 03-18-2005 09:54 PM

its a gimmick

basically pearl mixes and matches components of a drum kit and claims its the best. yeah right.

RavEMasteR 03-18-2005 09:58 PM

^I consider Pearl to be inferior to the likes of TAMA and Yamaha. I mean, they use, of all things, POPLAR (a very perishable wood) to make their Forum series. What does that say about their efforts in their kits?

I appreciate them trying to do what they can, but to just hand out to beginners stuff made to perish, that doesn't say much about their intelligence.

Vater5B 03-18-2005 10:59 PM

[QUOTE=RavEMasteR]^I consider Pearl to be inferior to the likes of TAMA and Yamaha. I mean, they use, of all things, POPLAR (a very perishable wood) to make their Forum series. What does that say about their efforts in their kits?[/QUOTE]

Wow. My crappy Pacific kit was made from basswood. I guess DW doesn't put any effort into their custom made kits.

:thumb: Such flawless logic.

Frankie-C! 03-19-2005 12:29 AM

Gimmick.

borge 03-19-2005 02:21 AM

Since we're talking about Pearl, can anyone tell me how much a Pearl Sessions Smx Kit would cost?

l3n 03-19-2005 04:37 AM

The masterworks is already the ultimate in drum-making. Reference is just a masterworks 'configuration', number of plies, how many plies of this, how many plies of that, etc. They've said something about the mahogany/maple combination being the most popular out of all the masterworks order they've received, which explains the production of it.

Rockin982 03-19-2005 06:05 AM

Masterworks are great drums, but I wouldn't consider the the "ultimate in drum making". Check out [url]http://www.globaldrumco.net/[/url] . I had the opportunity to hear one of their snares, and let me tell you, they have left Pearl (as well as DW, Pork Pie, a bunch of others) in the stoneage. The purity and amount of resonance from the segmented shells is amazing, and the projection blows away all the ply-shell drums I've ever heard. Not to mention that making the shells this way allows for hundreds of times more customization in the woods used and thickness of the shell than ply construction. (Can you tell that I'm sold? ;) )

l3n 03-19-2005 06:18 AM

Well, they say you can't compare an apple to an orange..

Carn 03-19-2005 06:29 AM

[QUOTE=Vater5B]Wow. My crappy Pacific kit was made from basswood. I guess DW doesn't put any effort into their custom made kits.

:thumb: Such flawless logic.[/QUOTE]

Pacifics get made in some factory in mexico and the manufacturing process itself has very little to do with DW. DW just brands it "Pacific by DW" so they can push more kits in the lower end segment of the market.

Basswood is a good wood. But you have high quality woods, you have shoddy quality woods. For example, a low-end kit wont have the same quality of mahogany as the mahogany in a high-end kit.

l3n 03-19-2005 06:37 AM

There are 2 kinds of mahogany.. the 'cheap' one, and the 'expensive' one.. the 'cheap' one is Phillipine Mahogany, the ones used in Swingstars/Rockstars if i'm not wrong. The expensive one, is the African Mahogany, coincidentally the same one that Omar Hakim's snare is made off *drools*.

Carn 03-19-2005 06:44 AM

wouldnt suprise me if there are 40 kinds of mahogany. The phillipine mahogany is also known as Luan btw

-Funky monk- 03-19-2005 07:04 AM

I personnaly dont like pearls, I rather a tama any day
Rockin982 what makes these snares soo good? because i heard one aswell and i basicly creamed myself at the great sounding drum.

Rockin982 03-19-2005 01:41 PM

The way a segmented shell is made, there are no plies. Instead, they stack little "bricks" of wood. Since it uses roughly 1/1000 of the amount of glue in a ply shell, it vibrates MUCH more freely and uniformly, producing a louder and purer sound. Very similar to the idea behind a solid shell, but much stronger because of the way it's constructed. Also, it allows you to use woods that are not conducive to ply construction.

Pissed off Dirty Drummer 03-19-2005 01:58 PM

Meh, sounds good to me.

A bit of a gimmick, but it's not as if they arn't going to work :confused:

My school has a 15 year old pearl export, and after 15 years of being beaten up, it's still as sturdy as it was when it was bought..

I'm not to sure what that has to do with anything, but i geuss i was just saying how amazingly tough and well built pearls are.

playwithfire 03-19-2005 09:06 PM

[QUOTE=l3n]The masterworks is already the ultimate in drum-making.[/QUOTE]I'd take a Sonor Designer over a Masterworks anyday.

Seafroggys 03-20-2005 12:09 AM

^^^Most definitly.

Der Meister 03-20-2005 05:57 AM

I'm more interested in the rounded bearing edge than the wood

White Riot! 03-20-2005 05:58 AM

pearl wasnt the first to do that........

Der Meister 03-20-2005 06:00 AM

obviously, most early drums had rounded edges but I haven't seen many recently

Seafroggys 03-20-2005 12:44 PM

Yeah, Sonor was the first one to go with the whole custom level thing (the designer series) in the early 90s....Masterworks didn't come out until like '97 I think.

rockdrummer7 10-27-2005 01:49 PM

I think it's a great kit
 
I think this is the most profound kit that anyone has ever dared to make. Looking for years at what wood or wood combinations make each size sound better. Look at the design of the shells, the smaller toms (6-10) are both birch and maple to pull out that loud yet higher clean range. The 12" is 100% maple to make it stand out. Anything larger than 12" (13-18) are made of maple and African Mahogany to bring the lower end tones out and drive that bassy sound. The kick has both birch and African Mahogany to pull those lower tones with the clarity qualities in birch.

This kit is getting the best of every possible sound range that a drummer could ask for from the sound of a drum kit.

I will be buying one early on next year.

Trev 10-27-2005 01:55 PM

Congratulations, but you're a few months late.

rockdrummer7 10-27-2005 01:57 PM

That's OK, they'll still be there when I buy it smart guy

rockdrummer7 10-27-2005 01:58 PM

I've read some pretty interesting yet sorted views on this particular series and maker in general. What's the general consensus in here on what kit is the most dominant to you guys? DW, Yamaha, Tama, what? Somebody explain it to me?


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