Pearl Reference Series

spiritII · 03-18-2005, 02:17 PM

http://www.pearldrum.com/thestory.html

It's an interesting concept, and the reasoning is sound enough, but one has to wonder how much better, if any, they sound. Thoughts anyone?

Everything_and_Nothing_3:15 · 03-18-2005, 02:21 PM

I think they're nice drums but I want to hear and see them in person before I come to a final desicion about them, but I have not doubt that Pearl hasn't failed us.

spiritII · 03-18-2005, 02:27 PM

Of course, if they sound as good as Pearl say, they've just raised the bar for everyone else.

Half Life · 03-18-2005, 05:03 PM

I think the Reference drums are going to be something quite unique. If I had the opportunity to buy a new set of drums, I would definitely consider them, although I have a feeling they are going to be very pricey.

***Damo*** · 03-18-2005, 06:22 PM

I dont see the big deal with them personally.

The Masters and Masterworks drums should give everything youd ever want in a drumkit.

Carn · 03-18-2005, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damo

I dont see the big deal with them personally.

-pearl promo talk-

Most brands have great sounding kits. If you get in a certain price league, a drumset will be of a such quality that the sound is good. All that remains is the fact if you like that certain sound.

Personally, I consider Pearl drums to sound like flat rat turds. But thats just my taste.

~~White Riot!~~ · 03-18-2005, 09:54 PM

its a gimmick

basically pearl mixes and matches components of a drum kit and claims its the best. yeah right.

RavEMasteR · 03-18-2005, 09:58 PM

^I consider Pearl to be inferior to the likes of TAMA and Yamaha. I mean, they use, of all things, POPLAR (a very perishable wood) to make their Forum series. What does that say about their efforts in their kits?

I appreciate them trying to do what they can, but to just hand out to beginners stuff made to perish, that doesn't say much about their intelligence.

Vater5B · 03-18-2005, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavEMasteR

^I consider Pearl to be inferior to the likes of TAMA and Yamaha. I mean, they use, of all things, POPLAR (a very perishable wood) to make their Forum series. What does that say about their efforts in their kits?

Wow. My crappy Pacific kit was made from basswood. I guess DW doesn't put any effort into their custom made kits.

Such flawless logic.

Frankie-C! · 03-19-2005, 12:29 AM

Gimmick.

borge · 03-19-2005, 02:21 AM

Since we're talking about Pearl, can anyone tell me how much a Pearl Sessions Smx Kit would cost?

l3n · 03-19-2005, 04:37 AM

The masterworks is already the ultimate in drum-making. Reference is just a masterworks 'configuration', number of plies, how many plies of this, how many plies of that, etc. They've said something about the mahogany/maple combination being the most popular out of all the masterworks order they've received, which explains the production of it.

Rockin982 · 03-19-2005, 06:05 AM

Masterworks are great drums, but I wouldn't consider the the "ultimate in drum making". Check out http://www.globaldrumco.net/ . I had the opportunity to hear one of their snares, and let me tell you, they have left Pearl (as well as DW, Pork Pie, a bunch of others) in the stoneage. The purity and amount of resonance from the segmented shells is amazing, and the projection blows away all the ply-shell drums I've ever heard. Not to mention that making the shells this way allows for hundreds of times more customization in the woods used and thickness of the shell than ply construction. (Can you tell that I'm sold?

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l3n · 03-19-2005, 06:18 AM

Well, they say you can't compare an apple to an orange..

Carn · 03-19-2005, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vater5B

Wow. My crappy Pacific kit was made from basswood. I guess DW doesn't put any effort into their custom made kits.

Such flawless logic.

Pacifics get made in some factory in mexico and the manufacturing process itself has very little to do with DW. DW just brands it "Pacific by DW" so they can push more kits in the lower end segment of the market.

Basswood is a good wood. But you have high quality woods, you have shoddy quality woods. For example, a low-end kit wont have the same quality of mahogany as the mahogany in a high-end kit.

l3n · 03-19-2005, 06:37 AM

There are 2 kinds of mahogany.. the 'cheap' one, and the 'expensive' one.. the 'cheap' one is Phillipine Mahogany, the ones used in Swingstars/Rockstars if i'm not wrong. The expensive one, is the African Mahogany, coincidentally the same one that Omar Hakim's snare is made off *drools*.

Carn · 03-19-2005, 06:44 AM

wouldnt suprise me if there are 40 kinds of mahogany. The phillipine mahogany is also known as Luan btw

-Funky monk- · 03-19-2005, 07:04 AM

I personnaly dont like pearls, I rather a tama any day
Rockin982 what makes these snares soo good? because i heard one aswell and i basicly creamed myself at the great sounding drum.

Rockin982 · 03-19-2005, 01:41 PM

The way a segmented shell is made, there are no plies. Instead, they stack little "bricks" of wood. Since it uses roughly 1/1000 of the amount of glue in a ply shell, it vibrates MUCH more freely and uniformly, producing a louder and purer sound. Very similar to the idea behind a solid shell, but much stronger because of the way it's constructed. Also, it allows you to use woods that are not conducive to ply construction.

03-19-2005, 01:58 PM

Meh, sounds good to me.

A bit of a gimmick, but it's not as if they arn't going to work

My school has a 15 year old pearl export, and after 15 years of being beaten up, it's still as sturdy as it was when it was bought..

I'm not to sure what that has to do with anything, but i geuss i was just saying how amazingly tough and well built pearls are.

03-18-2005, 02:17 PM	#1
spiritII Supreme Scotsman II Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,353	Pearl Reference Series http://www.pearldrum.com/thestory.html It's an interesting concept, and the reasoning is sound enough, but one has to wonder how much better, if any, they sound. Thoughts anyone?

03-19-2005, 06:05 AM	#13
Rockin982 Drumming as a way of life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Branchburg, NJ Posts: 98	Masterworks are great drums, but I wouldn't consider the the "ultimate in drum making". Check out http://www.globaldrumco.net/ . I had the opportunity to hear one of their snares, and let me tell you, they have left Pearl (as well as DW, Pork Pie, a bunch of others) in the stoneage. The purity and amount of resonance from the segmented shells is amazing, and the projection blows away all the ply-shell drums I've ever heard. Not to mention that making the shells this way allows for hundreds of times more customization in the woods used and thickness of the shell than ply construction. (Can you tell that I'm sold? ) Last edited by Rockin982; 03-19-2005 at 06:08 AM.

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03-18-2005, 02:21 PM	#2
Everything_and_Nothing_3:15 drum_forever Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the United States Posts: 2,687	I think they're nice drums but I want to hear and see them in person before I come to a final desicion about them, but I have not doubt that Pearl hasn't failed us.

03-18-2005, 02:27 PM	#3
spiritII Supreme Scotsman II Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,353	Of course, if they sound as good as Pearl say, they've just raised the bar for everyone else.

03-18-2005, 05:03 PM	#4
Half Life MX King Of Splashes Join Date: May 2004 Location: Prior Lake, Minnesota Posts: 3,885	I think the Reference drums are going to be something quite unique. If I had the opportunity to buy a new set of drums, I would definitely consider them, although I have a feeling they are going to be very pricey.

03-18-2005, 06:22 PM	#5
*Damo* D&P Supermod Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 6,877	I dont see the big deal with them personally. The Masters and Masterworks drums should give everything youd ever want in a drumkit.

03-18-2005, 09:54 PM	#7
~~White Riot!~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: At the Carnivale Posts: 6,131	its a gimmick basically pearl mixes and matches components of a drum kit and claims its the best. yeah right.

03-18-2005, 09:58 PM	#8
RavEMasteR MXDP Cheesiest Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 1,676	^I consider Pearl to be inferior to the likes of TAMA and Yamaha. I mean, they use, of all things, POPLAR (a very perishable wood) to make their Forum series. What does that say about their efforts in their kits? I appreciate them trying to do what they can, but to just hand out to beginners stuff made to perish, that doesn't say much about their intelligence.

03-19-2005, 12:29 AM	#10
Frankie-C! Bigger than Brando Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,728	Gimmick.

03-19-2005, 02:21 AM	#11
borge ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Being the fresh prince of Bel-Air Posts: 251	Since we're talking about Pearl, can anyone tell me how much a Pearl Sessions Smx Kit would cost?

03-19-2005, 04:37 AM	#12
l3n I'm back! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,565	The masterworks is already the ultimate in drum-making. Reference is just a masterworks 'configuration', number of plies, how many plies of this, how many plies of that, etc. They've said something about the mahogany/maple combination being the most popular out of all the masterworks order they've received, which explains the production of it.

03-19-2005, 06:18 AM	#14
l3n I'm back! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,565	Well, they say you can't compare an apple to an orange..

03-19-2005, 06:37 AM	#16
l3n I'm back! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,565	There are 2 kinds of mahogany.. the 'cheap' one, and the 'expensive' one.. the 'cheap' one is Phillipine Mahogany, the ones used in Swingstars/Rockstars if i'm not wrong. The expensive one, is the African Mahogany, coincidentally the same one that Omar Hakim's snare is made off drools.

03-19-2005, 06:44 AM	#17
Carn visit www.metalrage.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 5,686	wouldnt suprise me if there are 40 kinds of mahogany. The phillipine mahogany is also known as Luan btw

03-19-2005, 07:04 AM	#18
-Funky monk- Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,523	I personnaly dont like pearls, I rather a tama any day Rockin982 what makes these snares soo good? because i heard one aswell and i basicly creamed myself at the great sounding drum.

03-19-2005, 01:41 PM	#19
Rockin982 Drumming as a way of life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Branchburg, NJ Posts: 98	The way a segmented shell is made, there are no plies. Instead, they stack little "bricks" of wood. Since it uses roughly 1/1000 of the amount of glue in a ply shell, it vibrates MUCH more freely and uniformly, producing a louder and purer sound. Very similar to the idea behind a solid shell, but much stronger because of the way it's constructed. Also, it allows you to use woods that are not conducive to ply construction.

03-19-2005, 01:58 PM	#20
Pissed off Dirty Drummer Guest Posts: n/a	Meh, sounds good to me. A bit of a gimmick, but it's not as if they arn't going to work My school has a 15 year old pearl export, and after 15 years of being beaten up, it's still as sturdy as it was when it was bought.. I'm not to sure what that has to do with anything, but i geuss i was just saying how amazingly tough and well built pearls are.