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ToRidTheDisease 10-19-2004 02:49 PM

Rock and Metal's Black Sabbath Thread
 
So i was looking around at all these "official threads" and noticed someone, no Black Sabbath thread?? I think out of all these bands these guys really need a main thread. They are one of the best rock bands ever. You can discuss anything Black Sabbath in here, but do not spam and flame.

Tony Iommi was the only guitarist in Black Sabbath, and Randy Rhoads had nothing to do with it. Therefore, do not say something like this: [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6836385&postcount=3155[/url]

Here's a very detailed Black Sabbath recommendation post originally made by Lord Brummington.

Ok, seeing as we get alot of people asking in here what albums/songs are good as stepping-stones to the world of Black Sabbath, I figured I'd make this post then get you guys to link it whenever someone makes a post along the lines of:

'' 'sup you funky Sabbath d00dz, whats a good album to get by Black Sabbath?''

So...here we go.

Albums - Ozzy Years

I'm going to keep my opinions out of this part of the thread

Most of the guys in here have said that Black Sabbath and Paranoid are the best albums to get first, to be honest you'd be best buying them in order.

An album to avoid from the Ozzy years is Live at Last, its a crappy bootlegg and you'd be better off buying Past Lives, or Re-union. Also if possibly, try not to buy the 1996 Castle Remasters of the albums, the quality on them is poor, worse than my vinyl copies.

Dio Years

With only a choice of 4 albums, its not hard picking which one to buy. They're all as good as each other, but I'd highly recommend Live Evil as a first purchase from the Dio years, then the rest (Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules and Dehumanizer) in that order.

Tony Martin Years

I've only heard the albums Headless Cross and TYR from the Tony Martin years, he also featured on The Eternal Idol, Cross Purposes, Forbidden and Cross Purposes Live .

I've heard snippets of Cross Purposes Live, I'd recommend it if you're after a live album thats not got Ozzy on it.

From this era I'd highly recommend TYR

The Rest

Born Again

From what I've heard, this album only really appeals to the hardcore Sabbath fans, and fans of anything that contains Ian Gillan. The songs that I've heard are good, but a bit of a let-down from the Dio years.

7th Star

This is actually a Tony Iommi solo album under the Black Sabbath banner, its a bit hit and miss in places, but worthy of being in your collection.

Compilations/Best Of's

This is simple, if you want a good compilation album, buy The Best of Black Sabbath, it gives you alot of Ozzy songs, along with a few Dio and Ian Gillan songs I think.

If you're an Ozzy pureist, I'd recommend We Sold Our Soul For Rock n Roll, although it only covers upto the Sabotage album.

Live Albums

The best live album is probably Re-Union, with Live Evil, Past Lives, Cross Purposes Live and Live at Last coming behind, in that order.

Now then, the moment you've all been waiting for, this is my list for which order to buy the albums in (the ones that I have):

Volume 4
Black Sabbath
Never Say Die!
Live Evil
Heaven and Hell
Master of Reality
Sabotage
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Technical Ecstasy
Headless Cross
TYR
Mob Rules
Dehumanizer
Paranoid

Songs

If you're cheap and lazy, here's a list of songs to download to give you some inspiration for which album to buy: (not in order)

Tomorrow's Dream (Volume 4, Ozzy)
Supernaut (Volume 4, Ozzy)
Neon Knights (Heaven and Hell, Dio)
The Law Maker (TYR, Tony Martin)
Black Sabbath (Black Sabbath, Ozzy)
Iron Man (Paranoid, Ozzy)
The Sign of the Southern Cross (Mob Rules, Dio)
TV Crimes (Dehumanizer, Dio)
Air Dance (Never Say Die!, Ozzy)
Gypsy (Technical Ecstasy, Ozzy)
Headless Cross (Headless Cross, Tony Martin)
Jerusalem (TYR, Tony Martin)
Trashed (Born Again, Ian Gillan)
7th Star (7th Star, Glen Hughes [I think, my memory is hazey at the moment] )
Megalomania (Sabotage, Ozzy)
Sabbra Cadabra (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Ozzy)
The Warning (Black Sabbath, Ozzy)
Hand of Doom (Paranoid, Ozzy)
After Forever (Master of Reality, Ozzy)

Yeh...I could go on for awhile recommending songs.

Well, I hope this post has been usefull for some of you, any questions feel free to ask them, and any of the regulars, feel free to add songs to the song list etc...

-Brum

starappletheory 10-19-2004 02:56 PM

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti

ToRidTheDisease 10-19-2004 02:58 PM

they do a little bit, but not too much

acdcfreak 10-19-2004 03:19 PM

I'm surprised there isn't a Black Sabbath thread already, but i'm glad someone finally got around to making one :thumb:

monkey_chops23 10-19-2004 03:22 PM

Sabbath is awesome. My favorite Sabbath song would have to be War Pigs or Paranoid.

I would also say Iron Man, but that would give away my secret that the only Black Sabbath album I've heard is Paranoid. :lol:

mayonaise 10-19-2004 03:39 PM

yeah, i've only listnened to paranoid, plus a couple of other songs that get played on the radio. what are some other good songs/albums?

Broken Arrow 10-19-2004 03:43 PM

I have 5 of their Albums. I probably like their S/T one best though.

My favourite song is probably The Wizard

Kage 10-19-2004 04:30 PM

There's no Official Black Sabbath thread for the exact reason this one was started...Official threads are created to keep the number of threads about a band down, and since Black Sabbath doesn't have too many, there's no official thread for it. Or, at least, that's what I gather from it.

s0ldsoul4roknrol 10-19-2004 04:34 PM

[QUOTE=starappletheory]I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti[/QUOTE]

Oh, you're crazy...But anyways some great songs by Sabbath: War Pigs, NIB, Fairies Wear Boots, Paranoid, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Iron Man.

Great Ozzy Songs: Crazy Train, Over the Mountain, No more Tears, Shot in the Dark, Gets Me Through.

King David 10-19-2004 04:43 PM

Good Stuff, I think I should get into them more. Any album suggestions besides Paranoid?


War Pigs and Paranoid for me too.

rabbidweezel 10-19-2004 04:43 PM

i really like symptom of the universe, its a great song, show how black sabbath really liked to go from a metal sound to acustical very smoothly...Black sabbath is definatly on of my favortie bands.

Broken Arrow 10-19-2004 04:50 PM

[QUOTE=King David]Good Stuff, I think I should get into them more. Any album suggestions besides Paranoid?


War Pigs and Paranoid for me too.[/QUOTE]


Their Self Titled album alog with Masters Of Reality will get you started. :thumb:

King David 10-19-2004 04:51 PM

[QUOTE=Livewired]Their Self Titled album alog with Masters Of Reality will get you started. :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Sounds good, I will have to check em out. thanks

s0ldsoul4roknrol 10-19-2004 04:51 PM

Yeah Black Sabbath was one of the bands that made me pick up guitar and for that I thank them. :p

JACK! 10-19-2004 05:13 PM

Fairies Wear Boots or Sweet Leaf

liv11 10-19-2004 05:14 PM

I love Black Sabbath, theyre one of those bands like zeppelin that will never die....hell my dad got me listening to it and ill listen to it till the day i die. Sweet leaf and paranoid are my fav. songs. LONG LIVE SABBATH!!!!

Thor 10-19-2004 05:17 PM

Hey all! I dont have any albums of them, but i have plenty of their songs on mix cds. The best songs would have to be war pigs or paranoid.

ToRidTheDisease 10-19-2004 07:33 PM

im surprised there arent a lot more posts by now

Riva 10-19-2004 07:43 PM

They are one of my favourite bands. I especially love all of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and Paranoid. My favourtie album is Master Of Reality, but unfortuneatly I only have it on tape. :upset:

I don't like post-Ozzy Sabbath that much though.

black_sabbath634 10-19-2004 07:46 PM

yeah black sabbath they are may favorite band, im starting to get into sabbath after ozzy and dio, its really good, martin is a great singer, hes the only one ive really listened to.

drummerman 10-19-2004 08:35 PM

all their songs are great

SilenceNOmorE 10-19-2004 08:40 PM

I really like Sabbath, especially the more bluesy/groovin stuff like The Wizard. It just shows how metal originated as sort of a fusion of blues and rock with a fair heap of attitude thrown in. Of course, they're rockin stuff is awesome as well.
LONG LIVE SABBATH!

blue3 10-19-2004 08:52 PM

My favorite would be Paranoid. You should get the "We Sold Our Soul To Rock n Roll" CD.

rising_fury 10-19-2004 08:57 PM

sabbath are the reason i picked up guitar, my fav song by them is probably war pigs, but there are many a awesome song... like the wizard, nothing like ozzy on harmonica :p

ToRidTheDisease 10-20-2004 11:33 AM

[QUOTE=rising_fury]sabbath are the reason i picked up guitar, my fav song by them is probably war pigs, but there are many a awesome song... like the wizard, nothing like ozzy on harmonica :p[/QUOTE]
same here about the guitar part

codered878 10-20-2004 11:53 AM

black sabbath - iron man, nib, paranoid

ozzy - crazy train, mr crowley, no more tears

RockerGav 10-20-2004 12:21 PM

Sabbath - Wizard, Supernaut, NIB, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Heaven and Hell

Ozzy - Too many to name really, I'm more familiar with Ozzy than Sabbath as I have more of his albums.

ToRidTheDisease 10-20-2004 03:37 PM

i changed the thread title, i hope its ok

CrateElectrabass 10-20-2004 03:59 PM

i dont have a favoritesabbath song because i love all of them and you cant go wrong with ozzy

Brew 10-20-2004 04:30 PM

Good Black Sabbath albums - Vol.4, Heaven and Hell, Sabotage, Never Say Die!

Good Sabbath songs:

Air Dance (Never Say Die!)
Megalomania (Sabotage)
Supernaut (Vol.4)
Tomorrow's Dream (Vol.4)
Its Alright (Technical Ecstasy)
N.I.B (Black Sabbath)
Planet Caravan (Paranoid)
Solitude (Master of Reality)
Swinging the Chain (Never Say Die!)
Fluff (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
Who Are You (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
The Writ (Sabotage)
You Won't Change Me (Technical Ecstasy)
Sabbra Cadabra (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
Sleeping Village/The Warning (Black Sabbath)

I've only included the Ozzy-era songs, seeing as I'm feeling lazy and most people like the Ozzy-era of Black Sabbath.


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