Rock and Metal's Black Sabbath Thread

10-19-2004, 03:49 PM

So i was looking around at all these "official threads" and noticed someone, no Black Sabbath thread?? I think out of all these bands these guys really need a main thread. They are one of the best rock bands ever. You can discuss anything Black Sabbath in here, but do not spam and flame.

Tony Iommi was the only guitarist in Black Sabbath, and Randy Rhoads had nothing to do with it. Therefore, do not say something like this: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6836385&postcount=3155

Here's a very detailed Black Sabbath recommendation post originally made by Lord Brummington.

Ok, seeing as we get alot of people asking in here what albums/songs are good as stepping-stones to the world of Black Sabbath, I figured I'd make this post then get you guys to link it whenever someone makes a post along the lines of:

'' 'sup you funky Sabbath d00dz, whats a good album to get by Black Sabbath?''

So...here we go.

Albums - Ozzy Years

I'm going to keep my opinions out of this part of the thread

Most of the guys in here have said that Black Sabbath and Paranoid are the best albums to get first, to be honest you'd be best buying them in order.

An album to avoid from the Ozzy years is Live at Last, its a crappy bootlegg and you'd be better off buying Past Lives, or Re-union. Also if possibly, try not to buy the 1996 Castle Remasters of the albums, the quality on them is poor, worse than my vinyl copies.

Dio Years

With only a choice of 4 albums, its not hard picking which one to buy. They're all as good as each other, but I'd highly recommend Live Evil as a first purchase from the Dio years, then the rest (Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules and Dehumanizer) in that order.

Tony Martin Years

I've only heard the albums Headless Cross and TYR from the Tony Martin years, he also featured on The Eternal Idol, Cross Purposes, Forbidden and Cross Purposes Live .

I've heard snippets of Cross Purposes Live, I'd recommend it if you're after a live album thats not got Ozzy on it.

From this era I'd highly recommend TYR

The Rest

Born Again

From what I've heard, this album only really appeals to the hardcore Sabbath fans, and fans of anything that contains Ian Gillan. The songs that I've heard are good, but a bit of a let-down from the Dio years.

7th Star

This is actually a Tony Iommi solo album under the Black Sabbath banner, its a bit hit and miss in places, but worthy of being in your collection.

Compilations/Best Of's

This is simple, if you want a good compilation album, buy The Best of Black Sabbath, it gives you alot of Ozzy songs, along with a few Dio and Ian Gillan songs I think.

If you're an Ozzy pureist, I'd recommend We Sold Our Soul For Rock n Roll, although it only covers upto the Sabotage album.

Live Albums

The best live album is probably Re-Union, with Live Evil, Past Lives, Cross Purposes Live and Live at Last coming behind, in that order.

Now then, the moment you've all been waiting for, this is my list for which order to buy the albums in (the ones that I have):

Volume 4
Black Sabbath
Never Say Die!
Live Evil
Heaven and Hell
Master of Reality
Sabotage
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Technical Ecstasy
Headless Cross
TYR
Mob Rules
Dehumanizer
Paranoid

Songs

If you're cheap and lazy, here's a list of songs to download to give you some inspiration for which album to buy: (not in order)

Tomorrow's Dream (Volume 4, Ozzy)
Supernaut (Volume 4, Ozzy)
Neon Knights (Heaven and Hell, Dio)
The Law Maker (TYR, Tony Martin)
Black Sabbath (Black Sabbath, Ozzy)
Iron Man (Paranoid, Ozzy)
The Sign of the Southern Cross (Mob Rules, Dio)
TV Crimes (Dehumanizer, Dio)
Air Dance (Never Say Die!, Ozzy)
Gypsy (Technical Ecstasy, Ozzy)
Headless Cross (Headless Cross, Tony Martin)
Jerusalem (TYR, Tony Martin)
Trashed (Born Again, Ian Gillan)
7th Star (7th Star, Glen Hughes [I think, my memory is hazey at the moment] )
Megalomania (Sabotage, Ozzy)
Sabbra Cadabra (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Ozzy)
The Warning (Black Sabbath, Ozzy)
Hand of Doom (Paranoid, Ozzy)
After Forever (Master of Reality, Ozzy)

Yeh...I could go on for awhile recommending songs.

Well, I hope this post has been usefull for some of you, any questions feel free to ask them, and any of the regulars, feel free to add songs to the song list etc...

-Brum

10-19-2004, 03:56 PM

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti

10-19-2004, 03:58 PM

they do a little bit, but not too much

acdcfreak · 10-19-2004, 04:19 PM

I'm surprised there isn't a Black Sabbath thread already, but i'm glad someone finally got around to making one

monkey_chops23 · 10-19-2004, 04:22 PM

Sabbath is awesome. My favorite Sabbath song would have to be War Pigs or Paranoid.

I would also say Iron Man, but that would give away my secret that the only Black Sabbath album I've heard is Paranoid.

mayonaise · 10-19-2004, 04:39 PM

yeah, i've only listnened to paranoid, plus a couple of other songs that get played on the radio. what are some other good songs/albums?

Broken Arrow · 10-19-2004, 04:43 PM

I have 5 of their Albums. I probably like their S/T one best though.

My favourite song is probably The Wizard

Kage · 10-19-2004, 05:30 PM

There's no Official Black Sabbath thread for the exact reason this one was started...Official threads are created to keep the number of threads about a band down, and since Black Sabbath doesn't have too many, there's no official thread for it. Or, at least, that's what I gather from it.

s0ldsoul4roknrol · 10-19-2004, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starappletheory

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti

Oh, you're crazy...But anyways some great songs by Sabbath: War Pigs, NIB, Fairies Wear Boots, Paranoid, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Iron Man.

Great Ozzy Songs: Crazy Train, Over the Mountain, No more Tears, Shot in the Dark, Gets Me Through.

King David · 10-19-2004, 05:43 PM

Good Stuff, I think I should get into them more. Any album suggestions besides Paranoid?

War Pigs and Paranoid for me too.

rabbidweezel · 10-19-2004, 05:43 PM

i really like symptom of the universe, its a great song, show how black sabbath really liked to go from a metal sound to acustical very smoothly...Black sabbath is definatly on of my favortie bands.

Broken Arrow · 10-19-2004, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King David

Good Stuff, I think I should get into them more. Any album suggestions besides Paranoid?

War Pigs and Paranoid for me too.

Their Self Titled album alog with Masters Of Reality will get you started.

King David · 10-19-2004, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livewired

Their Self Titled album alog with Masters Of Reality will get you started.

Sounds good, I will have to check em out. thanks

s0ldsoul4roknrol · 10-19-2004, 05:51 PM

Yeah Black Sabbath was one of the bands that made me pick up guitar and for that I thank them.

JACK! · 10-19-2004, 06:13 PM

Fairies Wear Boots or Sweet Leaf

liv11 · 10-19-2004, 06:14 PM

I love Black Sabbath, theyre one of those bands like zeppelin that will never die....hell my dad got me listening to it and ill listen to it till the day i die. Sweet leaf and paranoid are my fav. songs. LONG LIVE SABBATH!!!!

Thor · 10-19-2004, 06:17 PM

Hey all! I dont have any albums of them, but i have plenty of their songs on mix cds. The best songs would have to be war pigs or paranoid.

10-19-2004, 08:33 PM

im surprised there arent a lot more posts by now

***Riva*** · 10-19-2004, 08:43 PM

They are one of my favourite bands. I especially love all of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and Paranoid. My favourtie album is Master Of Reality, but unfortuneatly I only have it on tape.

I don't like post-Ozzy Sabbath that much though.

black_sabbath634 · 10-19-2004, 08:46 PM

yeah black sabbath they are may favorite band, im starting to get into sabbath after ozzy and dio, its really good, martin is a great singer, hes the only one ive really listened to.

10-19-2004, 03:49 PM	#1
ToRidTheDisease Guest Posts: n/a	Rock and Metal's Black Sabbath Thread So i was looking around at all these "official threads" and noticed someone, no Black Sabbath thread?? I think out of all these bands these guys really need a main thread. They are one of the best rock bands ever. You can discuss anything Black Sabbath in here, but do not spam and flame. Tony Iommi was the only guitarist in Black Sabbath, and Randy Rhoads had nothing to do with it. Therefore, do not say something like this: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6836385&postcount=3155 Here's a very detailed Black Sabbath recommendation post originally made by Lord Brummington. Ok, seeing as we get alot of people asking in here what albums/songs are good as stepping-stones to the world of Black Sabbath, I figured I'd make this post then get you guys to link it whenever someone makes a post along the lines of: '' 'sup you funky Sabbath d00dz, whats a good album to get by Black Sabbath?'' So...here we go. Albums - Ozzy Years I'm going to keep my opinions out of this part of the thread Most of the guys in here have said that Black Sabbath and Paranoid are the best albums to get first, to be honest you'd be best buying them in order. An album to avoid from the Ozzy years is Live at Last, its a crappy bootlegg and you'd be better off buying Past Lives, or Re-union. Also if possibly, try not to buy the 1996 Castle Remasters of the albums, the quality on them is poor, worse than my vinyl copies. Dio Years With only a choice of 4 albums, its not hard picking which one to buy. They're all as good as each other, but I'd highly recommend Live Evil as a first purchase from the Dio years, then the rest (Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules and Dehumanizer) in that order. Tony Martin Years I've only heard the albums Headless Cross and TYR from the Tony Martin years, he also featured on The Eternal Idol, Cross Purposes, Forbidden and Cross Purposes Live . I've heard snippets of Cross Purposes Live, I'd recommend it if you're after a live album thats not got Ozzy on it. From this era I'd highly recommend TYR The Rest Born Again From what I've heard, this album only really appeals to the hardcore Sabbath fans, and fans of anything that contains Ian Gillan. The songs that I've heard are good, but a bit of a let-down from the Dio years. 7th Star This is actually a Tony Iommi solo album under the Black Sabbath banner, its a bit hit and miss in places, but worthy of being in your collection. Compilations/Best Of's This is simple, if you want a good compilation album, buy The Best of Black Sabbath, it gives you alot of Ozzy songs, along with a few Dio and Ian Gillan songs I think. If you're an Ozzy pureist, I'd recommend We Sold Our Soul For Rock n Roll, although it only covers upto the Sabotage album. Live Albums The best live album is probably Re-Union, with Live Evil, Past Lives, Cross Purposes Live and Live at Last coming behind, in that order. Now then, the moment you've all been waiting for, this is my list for which order to buy the albums in (the ones that I have): Volume 4 Black Sabbath Never Say Die! Live Evil Heaven and Hell Master of Reality Sabotage Sabbath Bloody Sabbath Technical Ecstasy Headless Cross TYR Mob Rules Dehumanizer Paranoid Songs If you're cheap and lazy, here's a list of songs to download to give you some inspiration for which album to buy: (not in order) Tomorrow's Dream (Volume 4, Ozzy) Supernaut (Volume 4, Ozzy) Neon Knights (Heaven and Hell, Dio) The Law Maker (TYR, Tony Martin) Black Sabbath (Black Sabbath, Ozzy) Iron Man (Paranoid, Ozzy) The Sign of the Southern Cross (Mob Rules, Dio) TV Crimes (Dehumanizer, Dio) Air Dance (Never Say Die!, Ozzy) Gypsy (Technical Ecstasy, Ozzy) Headless Cross (Headless Cross, Tony Martin) Jerusalem (TYR, Tony Martin) Trashed (Born Again, Ian Gillan) 7th Star (7th Star, Glen Hughes [I think, my memory is hazey at the moment] ) Megalomania (Sabotage, Ozzy) Sabbra Cadabra (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Ozzy) The Warning (Black Sabbath, Ozzy) Hand of Doom (Paranoid, Ozzy) After Forever (Master of Reality, Ozzy) Yeh...I could go on for awhile recommending songs. Well, I hope this post has been usefull for some of you, any questions feel free to ask them, and any of the regulars, feel free to add songs to the song list etc... -Brum Last edited by ToRidTheDisease; 04-28-2005 at 02:40 PM.

10-19-2004, 06:17 PM	#17
Thor good evening Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 12,190	Hey all! I dont have any albums of them, but i have plenty of their songs on mix cds. The best songs would have to be war pigs or paranoid.
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10-19-2004, 03:56 PM	#2
starappletheory Guest Posts: n/a	I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy? Monti

10-19-2004, 03:58 PM	#3
ToRidTheDisease Guest Posts: n/a	they do a little bit, but not too much

10-19-2004, 04:19 PM	#4
acdcfreak Gimme your soul...or rep. Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 128	I'm surprised there isn't a Black Sabbath thread already, but i'm glad someone finally got around to making one

10-19-2004, 04:22 PM	#5
monkey_chops23 Totally Out to Lunch Guy Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 162	Sabbath is awesome. My favorite Sabbath song would have to be War Pigs or Paranoid. I would also say Iron Man, but that would give away my secret that the only Black Sabbath album I've heard is Paranoid.

10-19-2004, 04:39 PM	#6
mayonaise Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba Posts: 498	yeah, i've only listnened to paranoid, plus a couple of other songs that get played on the radio. what are some other good songs/albums?

10-19-2004, 04:43 PM	#7
Broken Arrow I've got these chores Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Comfy in Nautica Posts: 6,499	I have 5 of their Albums. I probably like their S/T one best though. My favourite song is probably The Wizard

10-19-2004, 05:30 PM	#8
Kage Komitet Gosudarstvennoy B Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Orange, California Posts: 25,721	There's no Official Black Sabbath thread for the exact reason this one was started...Official threads are created to keep the number of threads about a band down, and since Black Sabbath doesn't have too many, there's no official thread for it. Or, at least, that's what I gather from it.

10-19-2004, 05:43 PM	#10
King David um? yay? nay. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,336	Good Stuff, I think I should get into them more. Any album suggestions besides Paranoid? War Pigs and Paranoid for me too.

10-19-2004, 05:43 PM	#11
rabbidweezel paranoid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: wiscansin Posts: 8	i really like symptom of the universe, its a great song, show how black sabbath really liked to go from a metal sound to acustical very smoothly...Black sabbath is definatly on of my favortie bands.

10-19-2004, 05:51 PM	#14
s0ldsoul4roknrol RIP Dime, RIP... Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 805	Yeah Black Sabbath was one of the bands that made me pick up guitar and for that I thank them.

10-19-2004, 06:13 PM	#15
JACK! JOG ON! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cardiff, UK Posts: 2,851	Fairies Wear Boots or Sweet Leaf

10-19-2004, 06:14 PM	#16
liv11 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 9	I love Black Sabbath, theyre one of those bands like zeppelin that will never die....hell my dad got me listening to it and ill listen to it till the day i die. Sweet leaf and paranoid are my fav. songs. LONG LIVE SABBATH!!!!

10-19-2004, 08:33 PM	#18
ToRidTheDisease Guest Posts: n/a	im surprised there arent a lot more posts by now

10-19-2004, 08:43 PM	#19
*Riva* The People's Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The North Of The South Posts: 18,660	They are one of my favourite bands. I especially love all of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and Paranoid. My favourtie album is Master Of Reality, but unfortuneatly I only have it on tape. I don't like post-Ozzy Sabbath that much though.

10-19-2004, 08:46 PM	#20
black_sabbath634 i dont know what to put Join Date: May 2004 Location: in my room Posts: 551	yeah black sabbath they are may favorite band, im starting to get into sabbath after ozzy and dio, its really good, martin is a great singer, hes the only one ive really listened to.