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ATM 08-07-2005 09:24 PM

I'll hook you up :)

cicatriz 08-08-2005 03:13 AM

I've been getting more and more into rap/hip-hop recently. I love Wiley, Dizzee Rascall, (older) Roll Deep, Crazy Titch. I think they'd be considered UK Garage, not hip-hop, but I'm not fussy. I'm really not a fan of stuff like 50 Cent though.

IAJP 08-08-2005 04:42 AM

I love Rap music, I love Illmatic for making this thread too,
:).

[/DON'T FORGET TO CHECK OUT MY [URL=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375620]SERIES THREADS[/URL] IN R&M, THERE'S RAP THERE TOO!]
:), never hurt anyone..

EDIT:
alright, my favourite rap bands:

Grandmaster Flash & TFF,
Public Enemy,
N.W.A,
Tupac,
The Beastie Boys,
Various Solo Rappers (Ice Cube, Dre., Eazy etc),
Rob Base,
Big Daddy Kane,
Blackalishious,
Deltron 5000,
Roll Deep,
Kanye West.

And the likes, I like various songs from certain artists, but as a whole I don't like certain artists.

I also hate the way newbs diss rap because they think it will make them look cool. :)

masada 08-08-2005 01:32 PM

[i]The Whitey Album[/i] by Ciccone Youth is probably one of my favorite rap albums. And yes, there is rapping on it.

Zesty Mordant 08-08-2005 10:35 PM

As of now I really wanna hear the new Buck 65 album, but so far [I]Be[/I] is definately the best hip-hop album of the year, followed possibly by the latest by Roots Manuva.

Anyone know any of the details of the upcoming Blackalicious album or when its coming out?

Illmatic 08-09-2005 11:38 AM

5 favorite MCs:

5. Ice Cube
4. 2Pac
3. Chuck D
2. Rakim
1. Biggie Smalls

trev913 08-09-2005 12:00 PM

I'm definitely only feeling 2Pac...and some Wu-Tang.

Mekkalayakay 08-09-2005 01:25 PM

I bought Lords of the Underground's "Here Come the Lords" and Run D.M.C.'s Down With the King (which I wasn't incredibly happy with). I would have rather had Tougher Than Leather, since the store was apparently selling it for $2.99, but they lied to me and they didn't even have it. :upset:

This was about two weeks ago. I need to purchase some more stuff soon.

IAJP 08-09-2005 05:02 PM

[QUOTE=trev913]I'm definitely only feeling 2Pac...and some Wu-Tang.[/QUOTE]
Only Tupac?

You should listen to some N.W.A, and Public Enemy, and some Beastie Boys..and some Rob Base.

Etc.

ATM 08-09-2005 05:03 PM

I am going to go see the Hieroglyphics and Del this month!

Robert Crumb 08-09-2005 05:35 PM

Sweet, they can put on an awesome show.

I just saw VH1's Least Hip Hop Moments of All Time or whatever. Kinda sad, kinda funny.

Mekkalayakay 08-09-2005 10:08 PM

So what are some good rap/hip hop labels to check out?

Zappa 08-09-2005 10:10 PM

[QUOTE=Robert Crumb]
I just saw VH1's Least Hip Hop Moments of All Time or whatever. Kinda sad, kinda funny.[/QUOTE]

I saw a couple of those. Most of the ones I saw really weren't that bad. Like Busta Rhymes and Martha Stewart and Elmo rapping.

JonM 08-09-2005 10:12 PM

[QUOTE=Mekkalayakay]So what are some good rap/hip hop labels to check out?[/QUOTE]

QUANNUM PROJECTS! Oh my jeez!

Ledmetalicbeatle 08-10-2005 12:51 AM

Has anybody ever heard of Living Legends?

Robert Crumb 08-10-2005 12:57 AM

[QUOTE=Zappa]I saw a couple of those. Most of the ones I saw really weren't that bad. Like Busta Rhymes and Martha Stewart and Elmo rapping.[/QUOTE]

The Elmo rap was funny. Never saw that before. Mostly the show was just like, "Look! White guy rapping. White guys can't rap lolz."

Rap labels:

Stones Throw
Definitive Jux
Ninja Tune (lot of turntablist stuff)
Quannum
Rhymesayers
Rawkus
Chocolate Industries
Warp (not really)
Fat Beats

Probably missing something obvious. I really don't think about labels so much any more; you're liable to find some crap anywhere you look. In any case, Stones Throw always surprises me with their consistency. I don't own a bad album from Stones Throw, but it's not like I have their entire catalogue so meh.

Mekkalayakay 08-10-2005 01:09 AM

Thanks a lot. I just like to find new artists through record labels, and I wasn't sure what rap/hip hop ones were legit.

Ganondorf 08-10-2005 02:48 AM

I got the newest Mos Def album, it's really good.

Illmatic 08-10-2005 03:25 AM

[QUOTE=Ganondorf]I got the newest Mos Def album, it's really good.[/QUOTE]

Which one?

The New Danger?

I thought it was terrible.

Merkaba 08-10-2005 07:39 AM

Another for the old schoolers....

3rd Bass... The Cactus Album, and Derelicts of Dialect.

God almighty.

popcorndude81 08-10-2005 09:00 AM

has that guy from RAGE against the machine gone on to do anything, the guy who rapped, he was kool but i doubt hed do so well without the help of morello etc (boo audioslave)

Ganondorf 08-10-2005 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Which one?

The New Danger?

I thought it was terrible.[/QUOTE]

Soem tracks are kinda bad but it has loads of good backng music and the guy raps quite well. I prefer it to the Black Star album (blasphemy!)

Illmatic 08-10-2005 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=Ganondorf]Soem tracks are kinda bad but it has loads of good backng music and the guy raps quite well. I prefer it to the Black Star album (blasphemy!)[/QUOTE]

Ugh.

The whole album, IMO, was a pretentious, convoluted mess...I think the lowest point was "The Rape Over".

[I]Black on Both Sides[/I] is far superior.

ATM 08-10-2005 05:00 PM

You guys should all check out Edan if you haven't already.

And after that, the Non Prophets.

Ledmetalicbeatle 08-10-2005 07:10 PM

New Danger isn't even that bad its better than Talib's Beautiful Struggle. I would call the Rape Over a low point but I don't fully understand the Quasi-Homosexual part does he mean like meterosexuals? How can you be part homosexual? You are or you aren't.

Iai 08-10-2005 07:18 PM

I interpreted that as an attack on rappers who are always attacking gays - he's saying they're doing it to cover up that they're gay themselves.

Or something.

3rdplanet 08-10-2005 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]You guys should all check out Edan if you haven't already.

And after that, the Non Prophets.[/QUOTE]

I have Non-Prophets [I]Hope[/I] on my PC, fantastic stuff.

Ledmetalicbeatle 08-10-2005 07:34 PM

[QUOTE=Iai]I interpreted that as an attack on rappers who are always attacking gays - he's saying they're doing it to cover up that they're gay themselves.

Or something.[/QUOTE]
That could be who knows, has Mos Def actually said what he ment when he said that? I would think an interviewer might bring that up since every review of the album was just "Rape Over is horrible this is a horrible album." People were too quick to judge that album and the focal point was the Rape Over and they attack it based on a comment that isn't even really clear. Totally ignoring good songs like Ghetto Rock, Sex Love and Money, Sunshine, and Grown Man Business.

Zappa 08-10-2005 08:40 PM

I think [I]The New Danger[/I] is a good album. Have since it came out.

Kaden 08-10-2005 08:43 PM

I thought the New Danger has a few decent songs, but overall it's just kind of boring to me.

meh, whatever.

Illmatic 08-10-2005 10:27 PM

The problem with the album is the beats.

Rather, the lack thereof.

Mos Def certainly took a chance when he recruited a live band instead of having a producer lay down beats. He's not the first, however; OutKast as always used a live band (or at least recorded with instruments) on their albums. However, they pulled it off much better than Def does. The "beats" are usually chunky, aimless, and boring, which it makes it tough for me to sit though.

Zappa 08-10-2005 11:08 PM

I disagree.

Dog 08-10-2005 11:35 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]And after that, the Non Prophets.[/QUOTE]
[I]Hope[/I] is fantastic.

Mekkalayakay 08-11-2005 02:10 AM

New discoveries: Analog Brothers, Atmosphere, Blueprint, Cannibal Ox, Soul Position.

LF96 08-11-2005 05:43 AM

[QUOTE=Ledmetalicbeatle]That could be who knows, has Mos Def actually said what he ment when he said that?[/QUOTE]
It's a controversial song, it's an attack on the music business:

Listen
Old white men is runnin this rap ****
Corporate force's runnin this rap ****
Setae israli is runnin this rap ****
We poke out the ashes for a chance to cash in
Cocaine, is runnin this rap ****
Dro, 'gnac and E-pills is runnin this rap ****

The rape over, turn your face over nigga
No god in disguise it's me, game over
Hey lil souljahs you're ready for more?
But don't ask what you're fighting for
They thought that you sur--vived the gunfight, the drama, the stress
You get in the line of fire we get the big *** cheques
You gettin your choice to pimp
Make your choice and fall in
This is ho stroll B I, take that **** in your behind, Beatch
Hit the streets and perform for us
Hold hard and bring it on to us, ****er
I let you sip, comes an army, get a Mercedes
And kick back and let you pay me, my Mack is crazy
I leave the, knife and fist fight filled with glamour
Yeah, take a picture what this platinum plated sledgehammer
We over-do it add the fire and explosion to it
We're so confused so we run rap music

MTV, is runnin this rap ****
Viacom is runnin this rap ****
AOL and Time Warner runnin this rap ****
We poke out the ashes for a chance to cash in
Cocaine, is runnin this rap ****
Hennessey, is runnin this rap ****
Quasi homosexuals is runnin this rap ****

Watch out we run the world

That's it

I kinda liked The New Danger cause it was kind of orriginal. I think you need to be open-minded to other genres to like it tho... :)

Of 1 Blood 08-11-2005 12:10 PM

So last night I watched "Behind the Music - Notorious BIG", and I was tryly saddened by it. He seemed like such a good guy who didnt want to hurt anyone, and it made Suge Knight look like a snake who was out to get people hurt/killed.

I dont know, maybe it was a bit biased but the way it was presented made it so upsetting that he was killed. It was also upsetting how they had so much evidence to find the murderer, but the LAPD wouldnt let them continue with the case.

BIG's music is awesome too.

Illmatic 08-11-2005 01:31 PM

Once Biggie scored that record contract, he stopped pushing rocks on the street.

And Suge basically is a snake who is out to kill people. He is one of the most terrifying men in the world.

And yes, the LAPD is like that...I also find it hard to believe that they can't find the guy who shot 2Pac.

Ledmetalicbeatle 08-11-2005 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=LF96]It's a controversial song, it's an attack on the music business:

I kinda liked The New Danger cause it was kind of orriginal. I think you need to be open-minded to other genres to like it tho... :)[/QUOTE]
I know what the song is about I was talking about that one line that everybody attacked him for "quasi homosexuals are running this rap ****" quasi isn't a word you would put in front of homosexuals. How do people know it's a slam against gays? How does anybody but Mos Def know what it actually means?

Happymeal 08-11-2005 08:07 PM

Soul-Junk. I don't think I've listened to more eclectic material. But then I don't listen to rap regularly either.

Mekkalayakay 08-11-2005 09:51 PM

So I downloaded Cannibal Ox's Iron Galaxy. Is it supposed sound so screwy with the producing? Parts of it sound like an old, rundown VHS tape. :( Is it supposed to be like that?


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