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Endangered Oddity 08-30-2010 10:22 AM

Lol loving Exoplanet the last 3 tracks fucking rule.

Scoot 08-30-2010 11:12 AM

[QUOTE=adb;18157937]anyone who likes The Contortionist is a faggot

shit is sloppy as hell and the vocals suck cocks. They're a spacey btbam mixed with attack attack
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no u

adb 08-30-2010 11:13 AM

It tries so hard to have atmosphere and fails so badly that it's comical

also i find it hilarious how people who hate breakdowns are giving it a 3.5 or 4 on the review site

Scoot 08-30-2010 11:22 AM

[QUOTE=adb;18158004]It tries so hard to have atmosphere and fails so badly that it's comical

also i find it hilarious how people who hate breakdowns are giving it a 3.5 or 4 on the review site[/QUOTE]

I like breakdowns when they're done properly and not every two or three bars.

At least it's something different.

adb 08-30-2010 11:24 AM

different doesn't mean good

they're a gimmick

Scoot 08-30-2010 11:31 AM

[QUOTE=adb;18158033]different doesn't mean good

they're a gimmick[/QUOTE]

okay mr. it's over 4 so I have to hate it

adb 08-30-2010 11:34 AM

BOO and veil of maya have a rating over 4 on the review site?

Emim 08-30-2010 11:36 AM

Norma Jean, Underoath and Oh, Sleeper are deathcore?

xMalcolmXx 08-30-2010 12:18 PM

born of osiris is awful.

RetiredAt21 08-30-2010 12:33 PM

fucking meow meow

publicastration 08-30-2010 12:42 PM

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;18157748]New Contortionist is holy shit good.[/QUOTE]

yeah lol i like it

Spec 08-30-2010 02:31 PM

lol wut pear

xMalcolmXx 08-30-2010 02:40 PM

what

nevertoolate 08-30-2010 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=Emim;18158052]Norma Jean, Underoath and Oh, Sleeper are deathcore?[/QUOTE]

lol yeah thats what i was trying to say lol


idiot

xMalcolmXx 08-30-2010 03:33 PM

new red shore isnt bad, its just not like their old stuff at all. not even deathcore really.

nevertoolate 08-30-2010 05:42 PM

thats kinda the trend I was tryin to point out to mappy earlier, going for the more dm style. Thy Art Is Murder, Bleed From Within, Through The Eyes Of The Dead and Viatrophy all did it

The Red Shore have not been nowhere near the same since they lost Damo. RIP man.

witchxrapist 08-30-2010 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=adb;18157937]anyone who likes The Contortionist is a faggot

shit is sloppy as hell and the vocals suck cocks. They're a spacey btbam mixed with attack attack[/quote]
Okay, so I've come to the conclusion that you don't even know what sloppy means.

Also, their vocals are really really good.

And Death metal + Meshuggah breakdowns = BTBAM?

Stop being full of shit.

witchxrapist 08-30-2010 06:16 PM

Off first album, band is in time:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOsU_ELZjYM[/url]

Sounds more like Dillinger influenced deathcore with post hardcore parts than anything.

Off second album, band is in time:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldtghA7xleE[/url]

Sounds kind of like After The Burial but more Acacia Strain influenced.

And their new album is their tightest to date.

So moral of the story, when you haven't been playing guitar for a year even, don't call bands that aren't sloppy/that are actual musicians sloppy, because you look like an idiot.

adb 08-30-2010 06:48 PM

did I say the musicians were sloppy? nope, the songs themselves sound sloppy, they do not transition well and sound rough

vocalist sucks, he sounds generic and boring

the auto tuned clean vocals are a more subtle version of attack attack

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witchxrapist 08-30-2010 06:50 PM

You said "The Contortionist is sloppy" which implies the musicians are sloppy. What you meant was that the songwriting has awkward transitions, idiot.

Also, reverb + high pass filter != autotune, dumbass.

And seriously, you're just wrong, his screaming is mad powerful.

And I'll agree on that criticism towards the songwriting about Apparition, but not Shapeshifter or Exoplanet.

And congratulations, through explaining yourself more cohesively, you've proven that you know even less about what you're talking about than you let on.

adb 08-30-2010 06:53 PM

the album is an incoherent mess, it tries WAY too hard to be WOAHHHH SPACEY ROBOTS UNIVERSE JAZZ

its just a pretentious -core garbage gimmick band

if I liked it you wouldn't be saying shit

Aaron 08-30-2010 06:55 PM

[quote=witchxrapist;18158536]You said "The Contortionist is sloppy" which implies the musicians are sloppy. What you meant was that the songwriting has awkward transitions, idiot.

[B]Also, reverb + high pass filter != autotune, dumbass.[/B]

And seriously, you're just wrong, his screaming is mad powerful.

And I'll agree on that criticism towards the songwriting about Apparition, but not Shapeshifter or Exoplanet.

And congratulations, through explaining yourself more cohesively, you've proven that you know even less about what you're talking about than you let on.[/quote]
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adb 08-30-2010 06:56 PM

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Aaron 08-30-2010 06:57 PM

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witchxrapist 08-30-2010 06:57 PM

The album flows rather well, actually. I've been listening to it quite a bit. I don't think the spacey-ness sounds forced at all, unlike on Apparition.

Also, an album can't try WAY too hard.

And they're not really a gimmick band, I'm pretty sure they're just playing what they're into. And they don't come off as pretentious, just good musicians. And this album has NOTHING to do with hardcore whatsoever. So calling it "-core" is retarded beyond belief.

And it has nothing to do with whether or not you like it, it has to do with the fact that your criticisms are highly inaccurate and uneducated, and written in poor English, with the wrong terminology.

And for fucks sake, would it be better if they tried harder to SHRED? You're such a fucking joke.

witchxrapist 08-30-2010 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=adb;18158544]I just realized I don't have an argument, time for a bad joke!!!![/QUOTE]

[i]Nice.[/i]

I just realized a lot of their emotive post-rock-ish parts sound a lot like early Dance Gavin Dance riffs.

RetiredAt21 08-30-2010 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=adb;18158541]the album is an incoherent mess, it tries WAY too hard to be WOAHHHH SPACEY ROBOTS UNIVERSE JAZZ

its just a pretentious -core garbage gimmick band

if I liked it you wouldn't be saying shit[/QUOTE]

bwent u dont kno wut core is

adb 08-30-2010 07:03 PM

it would sound better if they didn't try to jam so much non-sense into one song

the breakdowns are the epitome of filler too

there is a few really great melodies in a couple songs but not enough for me to put up with the bad jazz, bad ambient, bad vocals

so much better jazz fusion out there, so much better space themed music that stays within itself and doesn't sound forced

witchxrapist 08-30-2010 07:04 PM

He also doesn't know what he's talking about in any aspect of his criticism.

It reads like it's all based off of like 1 minute of [i]Expire[/i]...

Aaron 08-30-2010 07:04 PM

Bad ambient?

/Aaron crashes through the ceiling


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