[QUOTE=Steerpike]Dude, she's with you for a reason. There are guys overseas who are every bit as hopeless at the dating scene as the ones over here.[/QUOTE]
I know. I'll stop complaining like a bitch now. :p

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Your worries are perfectly natural, but unfounded. Believe me, this is very common, and it's nothing to be ashamed of. The key here is that you can second guess those thoughts and realize it's just another one of those inner demons you need to learn to stop paying attention to.



I think the larger point he was making is that you shouldn't abstain only because you believe sex out of wedlock is somehow impure or lesser. To be perfectly honest, that's a crude misconception.[/QUOTE]

i never said that sex is impure if you arent married, or tried to emphasize that, the thought just turns me off

plus knowing my wonderful luck id end up getting the girl pregnant if i was wearing three condoms and had my ball sack stapled shut.

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron]I know. I'll stop complaining like a bitch now. :p[/QUOTE]
she'll cheat

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron]Found out my gf will be studying abroad for a year in europe. I chouldn't be happier for her, but this scares the crap out of me. I mean, a year is a pretty lengthy time to be away from someone and the only interaction between the two of us would be the internet, letters and phones calls.....now, I know she wouldn't cheat, but I can't help but think of "what if" scenarios, because I think that since she's away from me for so long, she'll get lonely and find some guy to keep her from feeling that way while over there...idk, it just worries me about the fututre of our relationship.[/QUOTE]

Well, I wouldnt be worried about it. I know that you are dead set on being with her and everything and now thats shes going away, things dont seem as certain and everything.

I mean, you may change within that year and be satisfied dating other people while she is away, cause yeah..a year is a pretty significant amount of time. The truth is, time heals all. You will miss her a lot the first month or two, but then you'll get used to her not being there and may find some good may come of it.

I know its devastating (trust me, I would be a wreck if J left for that long) but its just something that happens. You'll be fine.

So, the other day, I told my girlfriend that she was my first kiss, and she was all surprised and didn't really believe me that I had never had a real girlfriend before her. I mean, I started going out with her when we were 15. we're almost 17 now.

So why do people think that you should have girlfriend or boyfriend by the time your like 13 or something? As this seems to be the attitude of all the people I know.

In my opinion, when you're 13, you can't have a real relationship with anyone. Like my little brother, he just turned 14, and has a "girlfriend" But it seems like it's just more of a show to impress their friends.

[QUOTE=nobodyblossomsforever]i never said that sex is impure if you arent married, or tried to emphasize that, the thought just turns me off

plus knowing my wonderful luck id end up getting the girl pregnant if i was wearing three condoms and had my ball sack stapled shut.[/QUOTE]

Both you and your girl could use a form of birth control. Use spermicide in the condom too, that should reduce the risk a lot.

[QUOTE=Silent Death]So, the other day, I told my girlfriend that she was my first kiss, and she was all surprised and didn't really believe me that I had never had a real girlfriend before her. I mean, I started going out with her when we were 15. we're almost 17 now.

So why do people think that you should have girlfriend or boyfriend by the time your like 13 or something? As this seems to be the attitude of all the people I know.

In my opinion, when you're 13, you can't have a real relationship with anyone. Like my little brother, he just turned 14, and has a "girlfriend" But it seems like it's just more of a show to impress their friends.[/QUOTE]

I feel the same way. Its very rare when someone that age actually loves someone, its mostly just for show.

[QUOTE=Silent Death]So, the other day, I told my girlfriend that she was my first kiss, and she was all surprised and didn't really believe me that I had never had a real girlfriend before her. I mean, I started going out with her when we were 15. we're almost 17 now.

So why do people think that you should have girlfriend or boyfriend by the time your like 13 or something? As this seems to be the attitude of all the people I know.

In my opinion, when you're 13, you can't have a real relationship with anyone. Like my little brother, he just turned 14, and has a "girlfriend" But it seems like it's just more of a show to impress their friends.[/QUOTE]

I think she was more shocked at the fact that she was your first kiss, and was probably flattered at the same time. Most kids usually experiment around with gf's and bf's and kissing when they're that age because everyone wants the experience, and I guess she's suprised that you didn't.

Haha, yeah, a lot of kids "going out" these days is def for show.

The bus I take to high school has elementary kids, and there was a group of elementary kids talking about who they were going out with... It was really stupid.

[QUOTE=DreamWorld]Haha, yeah, a lot of kids "going out" these days is def for show.

The bus I take to high school has elementary kids, and there was a group of elementary kids talking about who they were going out with... It was really stupid.[/QUOTE]

haha man thats horrible.....elementary kids? Thats kind of ridiculous

ive never had a gf for show and im almost 18

[QUOTE=nobodyblossomsforever]ive never had a gf for show and im almost 18[/QUOTE]
But have you had a girlfriend? If not it kind of doesnt count.

[QUOTE=Leprechauns1021]haha man thats horrible.....elementary kids? Thats kind of ridiculous[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it was pretty lame, but the thing that bothers me is the fact that I have to be on the same bus as these kids. It would be nice if my town could just use separate busses for the high schoolers and elementary kids.

yes i have

There's a bunch of wigger kids at my school and they talk about who was cheating on who and stuff like that, it's really pathetic.

There's also the girls who go out with scumbags and complain when they get cheated on.

I really have no sympathy when a chick goes out with some scumbag and gets cheated on. If they don't want to get cheated on they should raise there f[I]u[/I]cking standards a bit. Not that they have the brains to do so. Well, this isn't always the case, but there's some people at my school you can just look at and tell that they're a cheater.

Those who cheat usually get women because they know how to push a woman's buttons and get her attracted to him.

However, when women don't exercise some form of collective memory and pay more attention to warning signs, it's their own fault at that point. You can't predict the philandering wankers with 100% accuracy all the time, but when you end up with three in a row in less than a year, it's time to re-evaluate your standards and priorities.

Everyone feels like they need to impress someone, with their relationship status.

I don't know, I guess that's part of being in school. I just never really felt like I needed to be with someone to gain street cred or popularity.

Like I know this one girl, who was telling everyone about her old boyfriend, when they were 11. I was like wtf?

[QUOTE=Silent Death]Everyone feels like they need to impress someone, with their relationship status.

I don't know, I guess that's part of being in school. I just never really felt like I needed to be with someone to gain street cred or popularity.

Like I know this one girl, who was telling everyone about her old boyfriend, when they were 11. I was like wtf?[/QUOTE]

11 year old daters, haha, that's pretty f[I]u[/I]cked up.

I've been bothered before about how I haven't had a girlfriend, but I don't really see any chicks at my school that I can respect. And most don't like me anyway. :thumb:

Some people feel like they need to be in a relationship. Some people are just crazy needy.

[QUOTE=purplefeet]Some people feel like they need to be in a relationship. Some people are just crazy needy.[/QUOTE]

Well, the complex answer is that people are conditioned by an unhealthy pop culture mentality that negatively reinforces the stereotype that worthwhile people have relationships. This is pounded into us from a very early age.

People think they need a relationship to validate themselves and prove to others their worth, which actually decreases their self-worth. When a relationship ends, this leads to negative overcompensation such as incessant bitching about their ex to make themselves look good (which in reality, totally backfires).

The thing is, very few of these people ever figure out that true leaders don't need the opinions of others or a relationship to validate themselves as they are already secure in their identities.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Well, the complex answer is that people are conditioned by an unhealthy pop culture mentality that negatively reinforces the stereotype that worthwhile people have relationships. This is pounded into us from a very early age.

People think they need a relationship to validate themselves and prove to others their worth, which actually decreases their self-worth. When a relationship ends, this leads to negative overcompensation such as incessant bitching about their ex to make themselves look good (which in reality, totally backfires).

The thing is, very few of these people ever figure out that true leaders don't need the opinions of others or a relationship to validate themselves as they are already secure in their identities.[/QUOTE]

Oh, of course.

Its pretty unfortunate actually that people feel that way. I know a lot of people who will bounce from relationship to relationship (crappy ones at best) just for the sake of doing so.

More people need to appreciate being single and happy, rather than depending on others to do that for him.

I think every relationship that have 2 independent people, comfortbale with themselves and happy, will be more successful in a relationship together, developing with each other, in comparison to 2 completely dependent people.

Some people dont agree with me.

To hell with those who don't agree with you.

Interesting story I picked up. A guy tells the story of a woman he was set up for a date with. The first thing she says to him is "It's too cold to go out." Warning bell number one. Of many. She proceeds to complain incessantly about everything. The weather, the restaurant, the service, the table, his job, her job...

She claimed her job was "beneath her." Of course, he very swiftly made the decision that most of the men on Earth were [i]above[/i] her.

That woman is a reflection of this unbelievable desire of people in general to be someone important and taking it to an unhealthy extreme.

So ... here's a question for you guys. A [i]What Would You Do?[/i] kinda thing....



So I met this girl the other night. She was with her step-sister (who's 22) and her step-sister's friend (21). This girl is 17 (18 in 4 months).


Now the thing is, I'm not trying to sound like a pedo here (I'm only 22) but I kinda like this girl. She flirted nonstop with me and was all over me. I held off with the physical side of it but flirted back (I was being reserved because she IS still a minor). She gave me her number and I'm thinking about calling her but for obvious reasons, I'm very hesitant to do so.


What do you peeps recommend?

[QUOTE=Steerpike]To hell with those who don't agree with you.

Interesting story I picked up. A guy tells the story of a woman he was set up for a date with. The first thing she says to him is "It's too cold to go out." Warning bell number one. Of many. She proceeds to complain incessantly about everything. The weather, the restaurant, the service, the table, his job, her job...

She claimed her job was "beneath her." Of course, he very swiftly made the decision that most of the men on Earth were [i]above[/i] her.

That woman is a reflection of this unbelievable desire of people in general to be someone important and taking it to an unhealthy extreme.[/QUOTE]

Most people are also very materialistic or high maintenance which also adds on top of everything. Any girl/guy who thinks the other one should pay for their things is kidding themselves. I could understand as a nice gesture to offer to pay for something once in a while, but I know many people who think its wrong if the guy doesnt pay for everything.

Its like...uh? Why? Most of the time their isnt a response of anything considered valuable.

[QUOTE=g°®†]So ... here's a question for you guys. A [i]What Would You Do?[/i] kinda thing....



So I met this girl the other night. She was with her step-sister (who's 22) and her step-sister's friend (21). This girl is 17 (18 in 4 months).


Now the thing is, I'm not trying to sound like a pedo here (I'm only 22) but I kinda like this girl. She flirted nonstop with me and was all over me. I held off with the physical side of it but flirted back (I was being reserved because she IS still a minor). She gave me her number and I'm thinking about calling her but for obvious reasons, I'm very hesitant to do so.


What do you peeps recommend?[/QUOTE]

Eh, I dunno. I know people that are 18 who were dating people 25, 26. Theyve been together for sometime now. If shes mature, and you think you guys would work well together, I say go for it man.
Just go with it man, who cares what people think.

[QUOTE=purplefeet]Eh, I dunno. I know people that are 18 who were dating people 25, 26. Theyve been together for sometime now. If shes mature, and you think you guys would work well together, I say go for it man.
Just go with it man, who cares what people think.[/QUOTE]



I don't care what people think ... I do care about running myself into an [i]illegal[/i] situation here. heh


She's nice though .... She's intelligent, doesn't smoke, and loves to drink (exactly what I've been looking for) and here's the typical guy virtue --- she's hawt. :p

[QUOTE=purplefeet]Well, I wouldnt be worried about it. I know that you are dead set on being with her and everything and now thats shes going away, things dont seem as certain and everything.

I mean, you may change within that year and be satisfied dating other people while she is away, cause yeah..a year is a pretty significant amount of time. The truth is, time heals all. You will miss her a lot the first month or two, but then you'll get used to her not being there and may find some good may come of it.

I know its devastating (trust me, I would be a wreck if J left for that long) but its just something that happens. You'll be fine.[/QUOTE]
I have talked to her about it, and we both agree to stay true. I know for sure I would never do anything while she is gone and I'm pretty certain she wouldn't betray me either.This is the only time in our relationship where I felt that it might be greatly effected by a situation. It's just the part of being away from each other for so long, it's very depressing. :(

Dude, she's gonna be 18 in 4 months, I don't really see anything illegal about that. It doesn't make you a pedophile either. If you liked a 13 year old or something then you would.

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron]I have talked to her about it, and we both agree to stay true. I know for sure I would never do anything while she is gone and I'm pretty certain she wouldn't betray me either.This is the only time in our relationship where I felt that it might be greatly effected by a situation. It's just the part of being away from each other for so long, it's very depressing. :([/QUOTE]

I know its depressing but always remember, whatever happens..time heals all. Its sad, but very true. You'll be fine, and if its meant to be, your relationship will be fine too.

And Gort, I wouldnt worry too much. Most of the people I know, their relationships are legal, or borderline. So, enjoy yourself :) No worries.

I think Im going to hang out with one of my guys friends whom I have only seen once seen I started dating my boyfriend. A little while into my relationship, my guy friend basically confessed his love for me and I told him I cared for my boyfriend a lot and that was the end of that.

With good reason I avoided him for about 7 months, and have only seen him once since then which was recent. So, I think we are chilling tonight. Which is good cause I missed being his friend, we had some fun times. Now that I think he is over me, I think its safe to hang out with him without being worried he is going to say or do anything.

so go for it then?



yeah ... I will. I like her. :)