Marduk fire racist bassist

2023-05-19 by DatsNotDaMetulz | 128 Comments
Swedish black metal band Marduk have fired bassist Joel Lindholm after he was seen publicly performing Nazi salutes at their recent Incineration Fest performance.

In a statement, the band said:

“Following a variety of intolerable stage antics by a very drunk Joel at Incineration Fest last week, he has vacated his position in the band. Our old friend and bass player Devo has agreed to step in on a temporary basis, so this is unlikely to affect any of upcoming shows.”

Former bassist Devo was a member of the band from 1992-1994 as a guitarist, and 2004-2019 as a bassist. He had left the band to focus on studio work.

The band have previously refuted accusations of Nazism, despite evidence of purchasing contemporary neo-Nazi propaganda, although the band has repeatedly claimed that their Nazi-inspired imagery and lyrics are not reflective of their personal ideologies.

Statement: https://www.instagram.com/p/CsZHKdOtKJp/

Tagged: Marduk

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PoodleRapist
May 19th 2023
269 Comments


I see no changes, all I see is racist bassists

DinosaurJones
May 19th 2023
10402 Comments


But do they still have a bummer drummer?

90m80s
May 19th 2023
1523 Comments


what about them czarist guitarists...

MarsKid
Emeritus
May 19th 2023
21035 Comments


A sexist singer, perhaps?

YoYoMancuso
Staff Reviewer
May 19th 2023
18894 Comments


Racist Bassist is a killer band name

90m80s
May 19th 2023
1523 Comments


ohhh u mean the socialist vocalist

SteakByrnes
May 19th 2023
29930 Comments


"But do they still have a bummer drummer?"

I know what this is referencing dino my boy lol, I was thinking the same thing about the old gg bit

Scoot
May 19th 2023
22227 Comments


was just gonna comment that

racist bassist is an unreal band name

90m80s
May 19th 2023
1523 Comments


things'll never be the same

Sharenge
May 19th 2023
5292 Comments


do the AI overlords just censor any signs of the existence of any bands that have fully adopted all the trimmings and signature stylings of classic Nazi Party good-times or am I just oblivious because I find it hard to believe that there isn't already a band out there with Hitler as the frontman, Goebbels on keyboards, Göring on bass, Hess playing drums, etc etc who would be guitarist...?

widowslaugh123
May 19th 2023
4076 Comments


That’s just the way it is

90m80s
May 19th 2023
1523 Comments


eva braun

tigersbrokefree
May 19th 2023
377 Comments


But remember, they're not racists kek It's all projection from the librul media

tigersbrokefree
May 19th 2023
377 Comments


"Drunk idiot made the lie too obvious and had to be sacrificed a la Tucker Carlson"

SomeCallMeTim
May 19th 2023
4175 Comments


great thread

SomeCallMeTim
May 19th 2023
4175 Comments


my cat is semi sorta not really but kind of totally named after eva braun

90m80s
May 19th 2023
1523 Comments


never happened once offstage wtf is goin on drunk guy on stage vibes

Sharenge
May 19th 2023
5292 Comments


o shit I forgot about her and the doggo /bonk

PizzaBear
May 19th 2023
595 Comments


"Drunk idiot made the lie too obvious and had to be sacrificed a la Tucker Carlson"

That's really the vibe here yeah

PotsyTater
May 19th 2023
10100 Comments


So basically they are all racist and this was a performative firing so the rest of them could dodge accountability, got it

sanji999
May 19th 2023
42 Comments


"wtf is goin on drunk guy on stage vibes" [2]

BAT
May 19th 2023
1919 Comments


Thought they did this like five years ago but guess it was watain

pizzamachine
May 19th 2023
27330 Comments


https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/7af60d53-79e9-4c6b-92da-070d940c80dc/gif#tkvfLxwA.copy

PizzaBear
May 19th 2023
595 Comments


"Thought they did this like five years ago but guess it was watain"

Be a 90s BM band and don't get cancelled challenge level: Immortal

Flugmorph
May 19th 2023
34510 Comments


average bm moment

Nomos2
May 19th 2023
1905 Comments


"although the band has repeatedly claimed that their Nazi-inspired imagery and lyrics are not reflective of their personal ideologies."

sounds like your average shitty nazi metal band, yawn. No wonder I've never heard of them.

Flugmorph
May 19th 2023
34510 Comments


the whole scene is a fucking schroedingers nazi situation

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
May 19th 2023
26211 Comments


i mean, you gotta give some credit. immediately firing this dude was a good move.

most black metal bands are just like "go woke go broke" and keep on goosestepping.

Pikazilla
May 19th 2023
29939 Comments


"the whole scene is a fucking schroedingers nazi situation"

yes, it is only a matter of when not who

botb
May 19th 2023
17975 Comments


If there wasn’t any video they wouldn’t have given a shit, but still, one less racist dork active in metal

Jasdevi087
May 19th 2023
8136 Comments


isn't this band one of the ones people already know are nazis? who are they trying to fool with this?

Flugmorph
May 19th 2023
34510 Comments


plausible deniability

RogueNine
May 19th 2023
5565 Comments


Band shoulda stuck to provocative album covers.

chemicalmarriage
May 19th 2023
4318 Comments


They were all doing the salute to each other backstage in between the intermittent hand jobs. Man just got carried away and took it to the people. Glad they stopped him before he started jerking people off

Nikkolae
May 19th 2023
6701 Comments


dude gave the game away, they had to put him down

FrozenFirebug
May 19th 2023
915 Comments


music is saved

90m80s
May 19th 2023
1523 Comments


Marduk is so sensitive guys. They should hire a therapist and make a movie like Some Kind of Monster next.

zaruyache
May 20th 2023
27470 Comments


can't be cryptofascist if you tell people about it

sneakers
May 20th 2023
1286 Comments


Rhyme!!!

90m80s
May 20th 2023
1523 Comments


fire is the devil hiding like a coward in the smoke

conesmoke
May 20th 2023
7875 Comments


Marskid what was that mate.

zaruyache
May 20th 2023
27470 Comments


drummer bummer

GhostShelter
May 20th 2023
982 Comments


I am here in this thread posting a comment. Yes I am.

krazytom
May 20th 2023
136 Comments


Albie the racist...bassist

ChaoticVortex
May 20th 2023
1599 Comments


LOL, this thread

garas
Staff Reviewer
May 20th 2023
8086 Comments


This thread was exactly like I expected.

henryChinaski
May 20th 2023
5046 Comments


Racist Bassist is a killer band name [2]

MisogynysticTryhard
May 20th 2023
262 Comments


Breaking news, Marduk officially inducted alongside Pantera into the shit-band hof

Bassist is racist lol


Kompys2000
Emeritus
May 20th 2023
9468 Comments


Anyone else remember the racist bassist game grumps bit

"Hey guys, you ever read THE BELL CURVE?"
*Vocally mimics the Bitchin Camaro bassline*

Azog
May 20th 2023
1070 Comments


One might think any attempt to shake off a sketchy image would be welcomed. Not on Sputnik though.

SheWatchedTheSky
May 20th 2023
66 Comments


a friend of mine played support for them last year and they seem to be the most unpleasant people in the world ngl

pizzamachine
May 20th 2023
27330 Comments


Racism bad

DadKungFu
Staff Reviewer
May 20th 2023
4952 Comments


Lol Kompys

conesmoke
May 20th 2023
7875 Comments


One day we'll all be orange

hassanguason
May 20th 2023
31 Comments


Satan worshippers fire racist bassist.

Sevengill
May 20th 2023
12162 Comments


are they satan worshippers or Church oF Satanists, though
the difference is level of self-awareness. this seems on the low side.

90m80s
May 20th 2023
1523 Comments


https://www.invisibleoranges.com/exclusive-interview-marduk-antifa-balkans/

Nikkolae
May 20th 2023
6701 Comments


"One might think any attempt to shake off a sketchy image would be welcomed. Not on Sputnik though."

bands biggest crime was ever putting out wormwood

90m80s
May 20th 2023
1523 Comments


abruptum is aight

XfingTheSullen
May 20th 2023
5262 Comments


The racist bassist, oh dear

Azog
May 20th 2023
1070 Comments


"bands biggest crime was ever putting out wormwood"

World Funeral and La Grande Danse Macabre are much, much worse.

Nikkolae
May 20th 2023
6701 Comments


never got around to listening to those but i will certainly take your word for it

Gameofmetal
Emeritus
May 21st 2023
11604 Comments


I'm honestly shocked they kicked him, there was room for plausible deniability in that video and it's not like black metal audiences always care that much.

pizzamachine
May 21st 2023
27330 Comments


We’re still bumping this thread eh

90m80s
May 21st 2023
1523 Comments


bass bumpers

PotsyTater
May 21st 2023
10100 Comments


Sevengill just always being based af

zaruyache
May 21st 2023
27470 Comments


"Not on Sputnik though."

the entire band have always been accused of being nazi fetishists, which is why firing one of their guys for actually doing nazi shit is so house calling the kettle black of them.

garas
Staff Reviewer
May 21st 2023
8086 Comments


> World Funeral and La Grande Danse Macabre are much, much worse.
World Funeral is awesome.

Azog
May 21st 2023
1070 Comments


"World Funeral is awesome."

Agree to disagree.

Back in the days, Panzer Division Marduk was generally received as a war themed BM album. I remember being quite impressed by the ferocity of that album. No one was accusing them of anything, other than being loud. That was 24 years ago. Things have changed.

zaruyache
May 21st 2023
27470 Comments


if you were publicly anti-reactionary in the metal scene back then people just called you gay slurs, so ofc there wasn't a lot of open criticism for crypto-fashy stuff like this.

Deathconscious
May 22nd 2023
27367 Comments


"One might think any attempt to shake off a sketchy image would be welcomed."

You're whining because people see through their facade?...

bellovddd
May 22nd 2023
6230 Comments


don't be a nazi. Its not that hard.

Azog
May 22nd 2023
1070 Comments


"You're whining because people see through their facade?..."

Is it? Or maybe they just want to be clear, for a change?

"don't be a nazi. Its not that hard."

If everyone is a nazi, then what's a nazi?

el_newg
May 22nd 2023
2096 Comments


???? absolutely insane @deathcon you would rather the band be welcoming to a Nazi sympathiser band member rather than kick them out, even if it were a facade?

bellovddd
May 22nd 2023
6230 Comments


if everyone is a nazi then everyone is a nazi so therefore there is no nazi just everyone.

Flugmorph
May 22nd 2023
34510 Comments


brains boiling again

Jasdevi087
May 22nd 2023
8136 Comments


i think he'd probably just rather they weren't nazis, who gives a shit about a nazi band trying to protect their brand by firing the loudest nazi? am i supposed to blow them?

el_newg
May 22nd 2023
2096 Comments


no and no one is saying that. but the sentiment and optics of "we don't tolerate nazis" is a net positive.

Jasdevi087
May 22nd 2023
8136 Comments


except it doesn't really matter because it's nazis saying that

KevinKC
May 22nd 2023
1295 Comments


I wonder how many in this thread are blaming Marduk for being nazis (and if they are nazis they should be blame for it, let's not be ambiguous here), and are on the NATO/Zelenski side of the war in Ukraine.

Flugmorph
May 22nd 2023
34510 Comments


bruuuuuuuuuuuuuh

Jasdevi087
May 22nd 2023
8136 Comments


@KevinKC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lEpY6hIg6w

BlindHouse
May 22nd 2023
217 Comments


Race of Bass

Christbait
May 22nd 2023
359 Comments


"I wonder how many in this thread are blaming Marduk for being nazis (and if they are nazis they should be blame for it, let's not be ambiguous here), and are on the NATO/Zelenski side of the war in Ukraine."

You gonna be brave enough and elaborate on this or do you want us making assumptions about the shit you think you're being clever about.

RogueNine
May 22nd 2023
5565 Comments


Surname spelling is hard.

90m80s
May 22nd 2023
1523 Comments


blah blah blah and all burzum fans are racists this is a dumb thread

Colton
May 22nd 2023
15395 Comments


glad they fired their racist bassist, show em where their place is, make em hide their faces. I thought his behaviour was frankly tasteless, unless of course the allegations made are baseless

90m80s
May 22nd 2023
1523 Comments


bassless you mean

AcidBarf
May 22nd 2023
14 Comments


Marduk is racist and so is mah pigs.

90m80s
May 22nd 2023
1523 Comments


i was under the impression that part of the whole concept of marduk was that it was insensitive music so this kinda makes me question anything other than the fact that nazi music is such a small subset that they would lose audience and therefore money from openly supporting such things in todays political climate

Deathconscious
May 22nd 2023
27367 Comments


"???? absolutely insane @deathcon you would rather the band be welcoming to a Nazi sympathiser band member rather than kick them out, even if it were a facade?"

No idiot, i would rather they just werent nazis at all lol. Im not going to praise them for a performative firing.

Kosko
May 22nd 2023
154 Comments


What if he's just a grammar nazi and this is all just a misunderstanding?

widowslaugh123
May 22nd 2023
4076 Comments


No Bass For You!

Kompys2000
Emeritus
May 22nd 2023
9468 Comments


Colton ur comment made me lol

el_newg
May 23rd 2023
2096 Comments


obviously no nazis is preferable. as if it even needs to be said. that's not an option here. the options are 1. allow member that did nazi salute to continue in band. or 2. fire member who did nazi salute. and you are criticising the second option as if there were anything better.
again, no one needs to praise the band for doing this. they've done literally the bare minimum of saying "we don't tolerate nazis"

90m80s
May 23rd 2023
1523 Comments


^ lol

Deathconscious
May 23rd 2023
27367 Comments


Im not criticizing them for firing the bassist, im saying it doesnt fix the problem and they can still go fuck themselves.

el_newg
May 23rd 2023
2096 Comments


yes you are, you said it was a facade. honestly i think we;re on the same page here in general. but my point is that even just one less nazi is a good thing. 100% less nazis is the ideal situation

PizzaBear
May 23rd 2023
595 Comments


The point is that it isn't one less nazi. They just swapped out the overt one for a new covert one

90m80s
May 23rd 2023
1523 Comments


He didn't want to make things perfect, he just hated things the way they are.

SomeCallMeTim
May 23rd 2023
4175 Comments


I keep thinking this band's name is Marmaduke

90m80s
May 23rd 2023
1523 Comments


marduks of hazzard

Kosko
May 23rd 2023
154 Comments


marduk ellington

Deathconscious
May 23rd 2023
27367 Comments


"yes you are, you said it was a facade."

It is both a facade and not a bad thing that they fired the bassist, these aren't mutually exclusive ideas.

DarkRecollections
May 23rd 2023
55 Comments


While I understand their decision, I'm sick to death of all these pussies in metal getting offended by everything. Metal is meant to be offensive. Even if they were actually racist, which I don't believe they are, I still wouldn't give a fuck. I listen to music for the tunes. I could give a fuck less about someone's personal politics or whether or not they might be "racist". Grow some balls and cry me a fucking river.

Gameofmetal
Emeritus
May 23rd 2023
11604 Comments


You can be offensive without being a nazi. Plus these personal politics aren't like others, when nazis organize it's to do violence against innocents.

PotsyTater
May 23rd 2023
10100 Comments


Just flashed my ballsack at an old lady but it’s ok because indecent exposure is meant to be offensive

Jasdevi087
May 23rd 2023
8136 Comments


and I'm sick to death of pussies in metal having terrible hygiene and being unable to engage with the world meaningfully, but i guess we can't always get everything we want

Deathconscious
May 23rd 2023
27367 Comments


"While I understand their decision, I'm sick to death of all these pussies in metal getting offended by everything. Metal is meant to be offensive. Even if they were actually racist, which I don't believe they are, I still wouldn't give a fuck. I listen to music for the tunes. I could give a fuck less about someone's personal politics or whether or not they might be "racist". Grow some balls and cry me a fucking river."

Submitting this low IQ comment to the pasta thread, lmao.

90m80s
May 23rd 2023
1523 Comments


Maybe DarkRecollections meant to say 'grow some balls OR cry me a fucking river.' With AND in there, I'm not sure how to feel when I finish reading. People need to do both at the same time? I get that having balls and crying aren't mutually exclusive, but having balls enough to cry seems a deeper, more poignant statement than originally intended. Hmm.

Flugmorph
May 24th 2023
34510 Comments


DarkRecollections refers to the moment your alcohol and internet meme riddled brain tries to remember something important but all you can remember are racial slurs.

BAT
May 24th 2023
1919 Comments


Bitching about bitching is just kinda lazy/shortsighted, an entry level 'avoid the issue' stance. This thread doesn't even have an 'offended' tone, guy did something dumb as hell in a band that's actively tried to distance themselves from stupid shit. Band spends the past decade trying to clarify themselves than their newbie replacement bassist sieg heils a couple hundred brits. Don't think anyone's moving their 90s marduk to the recycle bin lol.

Also it's fine to not care personally, but also being annoyed by people who do care is just kind of a waste of energy.

Flugmorph
May 24th 2023
34510 Comments


Definitely agreeing with your general point here.
I don't think the bassist is a newbie replacement though, wasn't he on and off with the band and even with them in the early 90s?

BAT
May 24th 2023
1919 Comments


I gave metallum a peep when this article first dropped and his tenure was like joined during the pandemic left few weeks ago. He's got no recording credits just a few tours, his own replacement bassist is the one your thinking of, 'devo" who left to do session stuff but answered the call now

Flugmorph
May 24th 2023
34510 Comments


oh I'm stupid thanks for clarifying that

Egarran
May 24th 2023
34219 Comments


Great thread guys.

Hitler was an underachiever.

Flugmorph
May 24th 2023
34510 Comments


oh I'm stupid thanks for clarifying that

Egarran
May 24th 2023
34219 Comments


Great thread guys.

Nazism is a loser script and Hitler was an underachiever.

Egarran
May 24th 2023
34219 Comments


Authoritarian metalheads fuck off.

Flugmorph
May 24th 2023
34510 Comments


subtile variation, the spice of life.

Flugmorph
May 24th 2023
34510 Comments


slight variations truly are the spice of life.

XfingTheSullen
May 24th 2023
5262 Comments


I hope the new bassist they get is just racist enough for their tastes, but not too racist

Egarran
May 24th 2023
34219 Comments


Flug I should give you my number so you can text me when I double post.

90m80s
May 24th 2023
1523 Comments


we can all learn something from this

Flugmorph
May 24th 2023
34510 Comments


I swear mine was also an accident goat why did you change your text i cri

Egarran
May 24th 2023
34219 Comments


I try my best to appear normal

90m80s
May 24th 2023
1523 Comments


at least he wasnt cosplaying

90m80s
June 9th 2023
1523 Comments


was a real sput moment i look back on for many years and get a tear in me eye



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