TylerOnFire: Anthony Davis Is Overrated

FrankRedHot 07.01.12	None of these bands are overrated. They all suck. And your basis for Anthony Davis is what? God, you're dumb.
Scoot 07.01.12	he's got a tasty unibrow
KSK1 07.01.12	Basketball is overrated.
camaraderie 07.01.12	Who is Anthony Davis? None of those bands are overrated.
TylerOnFire 07.01.12	He will play great defense, dont get me wrong. But he just does not have the size or strength to hang with any Power Forwards or Centers in the NBA. He will rack up the rebounds and blocks, but offensively he wont do jack. I would much rather take my chances with Andre Drummond or Fab Melo who have the size to compete at the next level. Davis will be like Josh Smith at his best. With that being said, great year at Kentucky and good luck to him. If he gets the size he needs to compete, he will be a great player. Let's see that happen first.
TylerOnFire 07.01.12	If you don't watch basketball you won't know who he is.
AngelofDeath 07.01.12	It's mostly just that this is a shitty draft year for the NBA, so he's really the only talking point.
TylerOnFire 07.01.12	Yeah. I think MKG and Beal will have better NBA carriers than Davis just because theyhave the size for their position that Davis does not. Who knows, if he gets big enough and does well then I will accept the fact that I was wrong.
TylerOnFire 07.01.12	the rest of the draft is a big toss up.
JustBlaze420187 07.01.12	he is 6 foot 10 how is he undersized
TylerOnFire 07.01.12	The strength is the bigger issue, but I was talking about his weight more than height when I talked about his size.
JustBlaze420187 07.01.12	he can put on weight dwight wasnt all that thick when he jumped to the nba and look at hibbert
YUJOS 07.01.12	What about Dion Waiters??? Isn't he overrated or what?
TylerOnFire 07.01.12	That is true, but I would never put Dwight Howard and Anthony Davis in the same sentence.
TylerOnFire 07.01.12	Waiters is like Marvin Williams. He never started a minute in college and he turned out to have a shitty career. Waiters will do the exact same thing.
YUJOS 07.01.12	Too pity for Cleveland. They needed some 3pt and outside shooting and could have Harrison Barnes instead of Waiters. Now it's up to Casspi and Gee again...
Azazzel 07.01.12	Ya he needs some grown man strength but give 'em a few years.
Calc 07.01.12	i remember when people said this about kevin durant cuz he couldnt bench 180 lbs lol
Azazzel 07.01.12	The difference is KD would get smashed @ the 5 spot.
YUJOS 07.01.12	Nor 2000
TylerOnFire 07.01.12	I feel the same way for the Hawks. We drafted John Jenkins at SG, but we have enough guards already.
YUJOS 07.01.12	Johnson is going to the Nets according to the latest rumors.
TylerOnFire 07.01.12	Joe Johnson? Really? He signed a massive deal with the Hawks a couple years ago I guess the Nets are willing to pay the $119 mil Johnson is due.
iambandersnatch 07.01.12	drummond is 100x more overrated than davis
iambandersnatch 07.01.12	who btw I'm not sure is overrated at all, but we'll see
TylerOnFire 07.01.12	That maybe true. But he has the size and strenght already. Yes we will see. I hope he proves me wrong.
YUJOS 07.01.12	@ TylerOnFire If the trade happens Hawsk will get Petro, Morrow and Farmar and a couple of another 1-2 players from the Nets. Seems there are going to do anything to keep Deron Williams and try also to allure D.Howard to come in the team if not this year then next year in which he'll be a free agent.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	They will need to rework some contracts then because getting Johnson will put them way over their salary cap. But Williams, Johnson, and Dwight would be a nasty trio.
Azazzel 07.02.12	Doesn't matter Heat will repeat.
rockandmetaljunkie 07.02.12	Basketball is overrated. [2]
YUJOS 07.02.12	Plus G. Wallace tha he got a new 4 year contact for 40 millions from the Nets. Imagine what team that the nets could have with those 4 players!
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Heat will not repeat.
lucasjcockcroft 07.02.12	Anthony Davis is basically Tyrus Thomas with more range, so hes ok.
StagnantWords 07.02.12	I'm not sure ad is over rated at all, but the hornets are gonna suck regardless until they use the amnesty clause on rashard Lewis, which they have to do soon. I'm a celtics fan and we robbed the draft. Two risks, but with doc and veteran leadership, we're never gonna miss the playoffs. And fuck you to the bandwagon heat fan.
Satellite 07.02.12	it's funny when dumb people have opinions on things
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Yeah 90% of all heat fans are bandwagon
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Jason Kidd is expected to sign wherever Williams signs, so throw him into the mix as well
YUJOS 07.02.12	Yes indeed. Their are trying to put together a very good team to win it all now.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	It's hard to take them seriously with that stupid new logo
Azazzel 07.02.12	I wouldn't say I'm a fan but the Heat looked dominant out there. +Ray Allen. What's your counter argument?
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Allen has not been signed by either the Heat or Celtics yet. My counter argument would be that the Thunder are going to be back. A healthy Perkins will help them. They drafted Perry Jones III who will be a solid bench player. If they could sign a true point guard they could move Westbrook to SG, which is his true position, that would help greatly. The Heat got the Thunder when the Thunder were not playing their best. The Heat won the championship, the Thunder lost. I'm not saying the Thunder would have won the thing playing their best, but it would have made the Finals a hell of a lot more even that is for sure.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	What's your basis that Perry Jones will be anything? Everyone is saying that his stock continues to fall, even after he was drafted. And how were the Thunder not playing their best? That's the dumbest statement ever. They were easily the best team in the West, and just pulled off 4 straight against the Spurs, who were supposed to stomp everyone. The problem with anything you've said is that the Heat played as a team, and as a team, with everyone playing their role, they're DANGEROUS. Plus, if Chalmers can continue to play how he did in the Finals, good luck to the NBA. Allen going to the Heat would seal it. He would back up Wade, and spread the floor even more. Oh, and ya, don't forget that Wade was playing hurt the whole entire series.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	I would agree that Allen going to the Heat would seal it. If he signs. It will be interesting to see what the Nets do this offseason as well, but I dont expect them to do much. But if they can sign Williams, Johnson, Kidd, and Howard that will be a pretty nasty group as well, assuming any of those trades/signings happen. A lot of unanswered questions but we will see.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	Lol Kidd? Yeah, take the 1,000 year old point guard.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	They don't have the cap room for Johnson, Howard, and Wallace.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Wallace signed with the Nets tonight so.... PG - Daron Williams PG - Mario Chalmers SG - Joe Johnson SG - DeWayne Wade (Ray Allen on bench) SF - Gerald Wallace SF - LeBron James PF - Chris Humphries PF - Chris Bosh C - Dwight Howard C - Pittman/Turiaf If everything happens that needs to
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	I know they dont have the cap room, that's why I said maybe. Johnson will most likely not sign because of his $119 mil contract. Kidd can still play a little. 11.5 ppg, 6 boards a game, 6 assists a game last year.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	Yeah, but what happened with him in the playoffs? He disappeared, because he's 1,000 years old. Plus, I bet D-Will goes to Dallas, his hometown.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	I can see that. It's either there or Brooklyn. Dwight wants to go to the Nets. If it does not happen this year it will next; he has 1 year left on his contract with the Magic. Williams in Dallas would be pretty sweet.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	I bet you the Magic don't trade him where he wants to go. They're going to screw him anyway.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	It's only fair. haha
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	Oh, and so you know, it doesn't look like Humphries is returning to the Nets.
Storm In A Teacup 07.02.12	Thunder may have possibly gotten the steal of the draft with Perry Jones III of Baylor as the 28th pick.
BallsToTheWall 07.02.12	Heat Will Repeat (2)
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	I heard rumors. Did not know it was official.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	I agree. He is a beast. He said his knee is 100%. That is good news. I wish the Hawks had taken him instead of Jenkins
JJwins 07.02.12	I was reading over some combine measurements and Anthony Davis' hands are barely bigger than mine. I'm 5'10 and he's 6'10....no clue how he's going to develop a solid back to the basket game if he can't even palm the basketball.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	Heat will ReHEAT
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	It may not be good for him in the long run that he grew so quickly. It's not normal to grow from 6'2 to 6'10 so quickly and it could take a while for other parts of his body to catch up. Like his hands for instance.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	HEAT WILL REHEAT
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	ReHeat was clever.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	Not really It's been on the local paper down here. but they will reHEAT(repeat). It's inevitable.
BallsToTheWall 07.02.12	Lebron > everyone else. Game over.
Recspecs 07.02.12	Bernard James made the draft woohoo FSU representin Also, change your profile pic you make us Braves fans look bad with your dumbassery.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Where is my dumbassery on this thread? Please tell me.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	Maybe not on this thread, but pretty much every other thread you've looked like a giant idiot.
Recspecs 07.02.12	"Anthony Davis Is Overrated" Davis isn't really overrated, it's just that the draft class is so weak this year that there really isn't many players to talk about. And lol, the Hawks won't sell Johnson on the sole reason no one can afford his paycheck.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	no one's gonna pick up a $119,000,000 contract
Recspecs 07.02.12	Exactly. Damn, it's hard being an Atlanta sports fan most of the time.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Frank, that is 100 percent true. And recspecs, ESPN said that the Nets and Hawks were in talks about Joe Johnson. That was not me.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Atlanta sports suck.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Here you go. http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8119934/brooklyn-nets-atlanta-hawks-talk-joe-johnson-trade-sources-say
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	No, I saw it. ESPN also said almost 2 years ago that it was a lock for Lebron going to New York.
Recspecs 07.02.12	LOL not happening. "Atlanta sports suck." I disagree. The Hawks are a good team that have just made stupid decisions in the past (Marvin Williams over Chris Paul seriously???) and have some players with attitude problems. The Falcons are decent but I'm not that big into American football to give analysis. The Braves are solid but have had a rough injury stretch this season.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	The Braves signed Ben Sheets today. The Falcons need to make it past the first round of the playoffs.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	lol ben sheets
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	He just had Tommy Johns Surgery.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	that makes that signing even more hilarious
Recspecs 07.02.12	Lol I didn't know Ben Sheets still played.
Satellite 07.02.12	pretty shocked that drummond dropped to the pistons. with a core of him, knight and monroe they might potentially not be terrible again someday.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	He retired. Then decided to have the surgery. And I guess the Braves are willing to take a chance on him. Delgado and Minor suck so this would help if it works out. And Frank, most pitcher come back from the surgery and pitch better than before. And Chipper just got divorced a couple weeks ago, according to sources.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Someday is the key word, Satellite.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	Oh yeah, AJ Burnett and Rick Ankiel have been great on the mound since their surgery. Eric Gagne, one of the best closers ever, was FANTASTIC after his. I think he was something like 10 of 30 in save opportunities after his. That's just amazing. Dude, you haven't a clue as to what you're saying.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	That's why I said MOST pitchers.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	Dude, who? I just named 3 prominent names who tried, and didn't succeed. So name some.
Satellite 07.02.12	burnett has (somehow) been tearing shit up for pittsburgh (pittsburgh!) this year pit(tsburgh).
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	He does that with every new team he goes to. he does well his first year and then he disappears.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	I mean, I see some pitchers who have had a lot of success 3 or 4 years AFTER the surgery, but not immediately, and Ben Sheets isn't a young guy anymore.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Stephen Strasburg, Kerry Wood, John Smoltz, Billy Wagner, David Wells, Tim Hudson, Mariano Rivera, Francisco Liriano, Chris Carpenter, TOMMY JOHN.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	Lol Kerry Wood? Kerry Wood SUCKED after the surgery. Tim Hudson has never been the same. Francisco Liriano is terrible. It took Chris Carper 4 years before he was even close to being effective. LOL DAVID WELLS. And just wait for Stephen Strasburg to permanently damage his arm, because his motion is FUCKED UP(and that's why he tore it in the first place). I'll give you Billy Wagner, Smoltz, and Rivera, who had it really early in his career, and could only throw one pitch effectively(it was that nasty cutter, though), but Sheets hasn't been good in 5 or 6 years, is 34 years old, and just had the surgery. Good luck with that.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	it's like an ACL reconstruction. There are 10 or 11 great players who have blown out their ACL and have come back just as good or even better, but there are about 2,000 of them who were never the same or didn't even make an effort to comeback.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Hudson is great, not sure what you are talking about there. And Wells had his surgery while he was in the minors. He went 239-157 with a 4.13 era and 2,201 k's. Not to mention 3 time all star, MVP, and he pitched a perfect game.
FrankRedHot 07.02.12	He also only threw tops of about 86 MPH. He was a rubber arm who could work the corners. Sheets is a flamethrower, and that doesn't end well. And as I said with Rivera, having the surgery early in your career when you haven't played 10+ years in the majors helps.
TylerOnFire 07.02.12	Anthony Davis is doubtful for the Olympics with a hurt ankle.
Recspecs 07.02.12	TylerOnFire is doubtful for a future with an IQ of 16.
TylerOnFire 07.03.12	The Johnson trade just became official. So yall were wrong. How the fuck does that feel Frank?
TylerOnFire 07.03.12	Howard is most likely not signing now.
FrankRedHot 07.03.12	It feels like it makes no difference.
TylerOnFire 07.03.12	The Hawks are pursuing both Howard and Paul now. PG - Paul SG - Harris SF - ? PF - Smith C Howard that would be sick.
FrankRedHot 07.03.12	Yeah, they don't have the money. Jesus christ.... Unless Paul and Howard both take major pay cuts. I'm not talking Lebron/Wade/Bosh pay cuts, I'm talking about humongous, lifestyle changing pay cuts.
TylerOnFire 07.03.12	I know they dont. It's not gunna happen, but I would be fine with either Paul or Howard. That would help the Hawks a lot. I want Howard more though.
FrankRedHot 07.03.12	Yeah, Howard going to the Hawks to the same type of situation he had in Orlando makes TONS of sense. Harris is a SCORER, not a PG that can dish dimes all night.
FrankRedHot 07.03.12	Plus, Harris hasn't ever been healthy a full season except one(80 games). He's played a total of 90 games the last 2 years. That's not a good pick up at all.
TylerOnFire 07.03.12	We have Teague. Harris would play Shooting Guard. And if the Hawks got Paul he only has two years left on his contract so the Hawks would only have to pay him $15 mil over the next two years. And Howard only has one year left on his. Best case senario we would get Howard as a free agent after next year and he could re-work a new contract with the Hawks then. Then when Paul's deal is up he could re-work his contract that gets him the most amount of money while also getting Howard the most amount of money that he would want. Being from Atlanta and being best friends with Morrow and Smith that is enough to get him here. Having Paul would be an even bigger incentive for him to sign and take less money. It's possible.
FrankRedHot 07.03.12	That's A LOT LESS money, though. It won't happen. They won't be able to afford both at all. If they do, something's fishy.
TylerOnFire 07.03.12	Maybe they get Smith to take less money too. Idk.
FrankRedHot 07.03.12	Even then, it still wouldn't work. I understand having hope and all of that, but it's not like the Heat who's roster was depleted when they signed the Big 3(the Heatles). The Hawks have pretty much a full roster, with 2 sizable contracts still there(Smith, Horford). IT WON'T WORK.
Poet 07.03.12	Davis is a stud (and I hate Kentucky). He's pretty much Dikembe Mutombo 2.0.
TylerOnFire 07.03.12	Horford would not be there. He would be included in the trade for Howard. But I see your point.
Recspecs 07.03.12	Tyler I hate to say this but you make Chris Broussard look like a genius.
TylerOnFire 07.03.12	Respects, stop being Frank's bitch.
Recspecs 07.03.12	I'm Noctus' bitch thank you very much.
Sleaper 07.03.12	anthony davis is somehow in the US olympic team?? hes never played pro basketball in his life and hes in the dream team.......fucking bull shit if u ask me...and its an insult to the NBA players
Sleaper 07.03.12	btw dwight going to the hawks makes sense to me...him and josh smith are like best friends since chiildhood
treeqt. 07.03.12	it's ok rondo will gladly stay home for davis
Poet 07.04.12	"hes never played pro basketball in his life and hes in the dream team.......fucking bull shit if u ask me...and its an insult to the NBA players" lol this team is not the Dream Team.
Recspecs 07.04.12	LOL the dream team is potentially the greatest basketball team ever assembled next to the 2001 Sacramento Kings.
lucasjcockcroft 07.04.12	fuck yes, 2001 kings were awesome. gotta love divac
Sleaper 07.04.12	ok it may not be the dream team cuz most the super stars are out.... but they are taking the BEST healthy NBA players... anthony davis aint an NBA player yet... hes still a college player. id rather KG any day over davis
JJwins 07.04.12	"Tyler I hate to say this but you make Chris Broussard look like a genius." lolololololololol I liked that one.
Recspecs 07.04.12	In all seriousness, Chris Broussard is the worst.
JJwins 07.04.12	Exactly. After his coverage of LeBron in 2010 (he's going to New York, Chicago, wait Miami...no Chicago, no wait he's staying, lol jk he's going to New York, I'm serious actually this time...he's going to Chicago) he lost all credibility to me. It makes cringe whenever I see him covering games on ESPN at half-time. I'd rather have Stephen A. cover the games. He's ignorant as all hell but at least he's entertaining and makes sense half of the time. Chris Broussard is a doo doo stain.
Recspecs 07.04.12	Stephen A is entertaining as hell, Broussard is a dumbass who says Lebron weird as fuck, "Listen here Michael Wilbon, LEBRAAAWWWWWNNN JAAAYYYMES IS THE BEST OF ALL TIME."
omnipanzer 07.04.12	None of these bands are overrated. They all suck. And your basis for Anthony Davis is what? [2]