avonbarksdale221
02.18.14 | could end up > any season of Breaking Bad, sup |
ArsMoriendi
02.18.14 | I tried the first 3 episodes. It was more serious than real life itself. Not a single joke in each hour long episode. Both characters are too easy to hate too... |
NordicMindset
02.18.14 | good Woody |
joshieboy
02.18.14 | Watched the first episode last night. Incredibly eerie and extremely well acted. Definitely worth the
watch. |
avonbarksdale221
02.18.14 | Are you kidding? The humor is razor sharp! Watch the fourth episode and I guarantee you will change your opinion, the final scene is the best thing I have ever seen accomplished on television. The kind of shit that wins directors academy awards, and its from a god damn tv show. |
FearTomorrow
02.18.14 | Yeah I should check this out, got way too many other shows to catch up on / finish / check out though
Also props for including 4, such a masterpiece |
Thane
02.18.14 | i very much agree avon it's easily in my top 3 after only 5 episodes. it's a shame the story ends after this season, but if it was longer they wouldn't have been able to get mcconaughey and harrelson so i guess it's okay because they fucking rule.
also cary fukunaga |
NordicMindset
02.18.14 | I heard about this show cuz of Alex Daddario |
joshieboy
02.18.14 | What!? There's only going to be 1 season? |
avonbarksdale221
02.18.14 | binge this shit once its finished demi, phenomenal television.
4 is growing on me hard, jammed most days over the past week. love those psych pop vibes, and the harmonies are beach boys esque. |
avonbarksdale221
02.18.14 | They are going to do other seasons, but they will all be self contained with different actors and investigations. |
Thane
02.18.14 | there will be more seasons but it's an anthology series so new actors and story every season but it
will still be called true detective. EDIT: fuk |
FearTomorrow
02.18.14 | Surprised I haven't heard of this before really. Is it HBO? |
Ryus
02.18.14 | fuck HBO and Showtime i ain't payin for that shit |
joshieboy
02.18.14 | Ahhh, after 1 episode, l can tell they will struggle to top this in the 2nd season. Depends on the actors for next season l guess. |
avonbarksdale221
02.18.14 | Yep. Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson play the lead roles. |
avonbarksdale221
02.18.14 | @ryus torrent it man |
Ryus
02.18.14 | course bro, watched all of the sopranos online, i'll check this out |
avonbarksdale221
02.18.14 | even though the site is mainly shite, the imdb ratings for the last two episodes haven been 9.9 and 9.8 which might give y'all more incentive to check this out. |
Electric City
02.18.14 | TRUTH |
SitarHero
02.18.14 | "It was more serious than real life itself. Not a single joke in each hour long episode."
Are you kidding me? Rust's reactions to the Christian action force were super lolworthy. |
avonbarksdale221
02.18.14 | Woody: You're like the Michael Jordan of being a son a bitch. |
joshieboy
02.18.14 | The only other show i've seen get 9.8, 9.9 on IMDB is Breaking Bad. Elite company. |
SitarHero
02.18.14 | "Woody: You're like the Michael Jordan of being a son a bitch."
One of the best quotes ever. |
avonbarksdale221
02.18.14 | just wait until ep 4 joshie, adrenaline pumping tv to rival brba |
joshieboy
02.18.14 | Gonna watch ep 2 and 3 tonight probably. |
IronGiant
02.18.14 | DUUUUDE i just watched the last episode that aired thus far today and it was so good. i really am digging this show. best part is when rust invades that biker gang |
avonbarksdale221
02.18.14 | That was so fucking intense Iron. Last nights episode was equally amazing imo, complete psychological mindfuck. Real edge-of-your-seat stuff. |
joshieboy
02.18.14 | Ep 2 down. The cinematography is incredible. So eerie. |
Faraudo
02.18.14 | Breaking Bad's Ozymandias has a 10 on IMDB, close enough. |
tragic.details
02.18.14 | The show is fucking intense. Definitely the best new show currently on TV. |
GnarlyShillelagh
02.18.14 | show is next level
idk wtf is going on right now it's fantastic |
YourDarkAffected
02.18.14 | Never seen it. Currently loving House of Cards though. How does it compare quality-wise? |
avonbarksdale221
02.18.14 | I've still yet so see House of Cards so I can't comment there. I'll say this though; the rate True Detective is going, it's first season will eclipse the respective openings of The Wire, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos and Mad Men. Get on it YDA, can't see anyone who is a tv fan not digging this. |
Faraudo
02.18.14 | It's really non-related, but I highly recommend Hannibal as well, great fucking tv show. |
Rowan5215
02.18.14 | ^^^ Hannibal is tight for sure |
tragic.details
02.18.14 | Hannibal for sure [3] |
Sleaper
02.18.14 | the one- 8 minute take scene at the end of episode 4 is seriously legendary. |
YourDarkAffected
02.18.14 | I guess I need to watch True Detective if it's up there with Breaking Bad and Hannibal, which are both phenomenal. As well as House of Cards. |
Rowan5215
02.18.14 | Damn I mean I love Hannibal but did you just put it on the same level as Breaking Bad? Damn son they're only one season in
Fucking great season it was though |
Faraudo
02.18.14 | It's not on the same level as Breaking Bad, but if Hannibal keeps getting better (All signs point to
that), it will probably achieve that level of greatness. First season was amazing, and Mads Mikkelsen
kicks some serious ass as Hannibal. |
YourDarkAffected
02.18.14 | When I say "Up there with Breaking Bad and Hannibal" I mean that both those shows are well above your run of the mill tv show. There are still several levels of the atmosphere between Hannibal and Breaking Bad (great as Hannibal is). House of Cards is well on its way to reaching BB levels though, which is even more impressive for a show that's exclusive to netflix. |
Rowan5215
02.18.14 | Oh ok I'm with you then bro although I haven't seen House of Cards
Mikkelsen is seriously the bomb, you wouldn't think anyone could live up to Hopkins as Lecter but whatdyaknow |
Faraudo
02.18.14 | Call me crazy, but i'm starting to like Mads a bit more than Hopkins. |
Rowan5215
02.18.14 | They're honestly not far apart and Hopkins as Lecter is like one of the best performances |
Faraudo
02.18.14 | Hopkins's Hannibal is a bit more about the theatricals and the creepyness, Mads pulls a sort of creepy slick-quietness of sorts. |
Rowan5215
02.18.14 | Yeah Mads is a lot more subtle because the other characters don't know about his being evil yet
He pulls off the duality of the way he acts around the others and his psychotic persona so damn well |
Guzzo10
02.18.14 | I just see woody harrelson and think: "Weed is for the people, its the peoples weed!"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pu3ZB4nngE |
Emyay
02.18.14 | TD is phenomenal. just watched episode 5 last night and it got me super pumped. sucks theres only 3 more episodes. also there are definitely some funny moments in the show. whenever rust is shaming marty for his actions its hilarious. "i can smell the pussy from here" and also the line about 'crazy pussy' |
Thane
02.18.14 | “With all that dick swagger you can't spot crazy pussy?” |
guitarded_chuck
02.18.14 | true detective is a perfect show
big lol whoever said there is no humor
it's over your head bro come back in 5 years |
Emyay
02.18.14 | thats the one thane lol |
SharkTooth
02.18.14 | MAD FUCKIN' MEN |
Thane
02.18.14 | i've been reading a lot about TD and the amount of symbolism, foreshadowing, and tiny little details that seem insignificant but are helpful to understanding what's going on and what's going to happen is incredible. i think the writer of the show said you could solve the case with information given to you in episode 1. |
Emyay
02.18.14 | mad men is awesome agreed sharktooth.
also, thane, any good links? |
Thane
02.18.14 | most of what i've read has been on different forums discussing the show, interviews etc so you'll find interesting things anywhere people discuss it tbh. i don't have any links on hand sorry. we should have a thread here with spoiler alert in the title because it doesn't seem that too many people have seen all of it yet. |
Thane
02.18.14 | http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2014/02/16/3292391/true-detective-carcosa/ |
Emyay
02.18.14 | yeah true. i'll check out that link. i was planning on looking at a bunch of stuff today, was just wondering if you had seen anything particularly cool |
Emyay
02.18.14 | theres some really cool theories detailed in the comments here:
http://io9.com/true-detective-takes-us-to-the-void-at-the-center-of-me-1524756707 |
ExcentrifugalForz
02.18.14 | just started watching this thanks for the rec |
Apollo
02.18.14 | It's okay |
Emyay
02.18.14 | its actually phenomenal |
Apollo
02.18.14 | Opinions |
Guzzo10
02.18.14 | Show was just good for the first 3 episodes. The actual case went fucking no where for those first three, but that's more of a problem with making a show based off a single case. The fourth episode something finally happened in the case, and it was pretty great. |
Faraudo
02.19.14 | I just saw episode 4, that fucking last take is legendary. |
ti0n
02.19.14 | this series is dope. cant wait for ep 6 |
Emyay
02.20.14 | ep 4 had that nice long take but ep 5 is the best so far |
avonbarksdale221
02.20.14 | Agreed hard. Scary thing is its going to get better from here. |
AnotherBrick
02.20.14 | made it through the first 3 and i have to admit i checked how much time was left in them multiple times. i've heard that episode 4 is amazing though |
apert
02.20.14 | just watched ep 5 and can't believe its still getting better, if it continues at this rate for the rest of the season i can see this being the best season of tv since The Wire 4th season. Already think its leagues above Breaking Bad which i always thought got too much praise. can't wait for episode 6 |
Emyay
02.20.14 | lol at being bored during the show. i was checking the time too but only bc i didn't want it to end |
Sleaper
02.20.14 | how can i tell the OP is cool as fuck?
his names avon barksdale...
makes list about true detective. |
Faraudo
02.21.14 | Nononono calm your tits, you can't say that this show's better that Breaking Bad, this show has a better first season that BB for sure, but hold your pants right there. |
Sleaper
02.21.14 | breaking bad vs the wire is a valid argument. the wire wins. |
Faraudo
02.21.14 | I woud like to disagree, man. The Wire's 5th season is kinda weak, BB mantained (and raised) it's level of quality, especially on the 4th and 5th season (both halfs), but it's kinda pointless to have this little argument, each to it's own. |
Sleaper
02.21.14 | the wire followed so many stories, i dunno the wire just reeled me in alot more emotionally than BB did. to each their own! |
avonbarksdale221
02.21.14 | The Wire has so much more depth than Breaking Bad even if BrBa has it covered from a specifically entertainment perspective.
the wire s1 > brba s1
the wire s2 > brba s2
the wire s3 > brba s3
the wire s4 > brba s4
brba s5 > the wire s5
so I guess the wire wins, sweet |
EyesWideShut
02.21.14 | The Wire is the best show ever made and thats a fact.. The Sopranos is second best.. Breaking Bad and the few others are subjective..
True Detective has been excellent so far and is easily the best show on air. |
Deathconscious
02.21.14 | i was really fucking impressed by the first 3 episodes. 4 and 5 were decent. great show overall so far. |
EyesWideShut
02.21.14 | gonna be really interesting next season with new actors/director/case.. |
avonbarksdale221
02.21.14 | dude, no disrespect to the first three eps but the last two have just been something else.
I honestly think that breaking bad has surpassed the sopranos, just that little bit more consistent. both are greath shows though, same with mad men, deadwood, game of thrones etc |
Faraudo
02.24.14 | Well, I consider myself on team Breaking Bad. |
qwe3
02.24.14 | close between TD and SoA for me
also
The Wire has so much more depth than Breaking Bad even if BrBa has it covered from a specifically entertainment perspective.
the wire s1 > brba s1
the wire s2 > brba s2
the wire s3 > brba s3
the wire s4 > brba s4
brba s5 > the wire s5
pretty much. but what would you say about BBS5 in relation to the other seasons of The Wire? because in my opinion it's one of the best seasons of television ever |
MusicTalent
02.24.14 | Well that's wrong good job on being wrong idiot |
Rowan5215
02.24.14 | BBS5 is pretty much even with the Wire S4 and better than all the rest imo |
Faraudo
02.24.14 | BB Season 5 and the second half of season 4 own The Wire, in my humble opinion. |
avonbarksdale221
02.24.14 | Slower episode this week, I guess just character-building before the last two eps.
Really, The Wire and Breaking Bad are too different to adequately compare. Lets just agree that both are pretty much the best television has to offer and end it at that. |
Rowan5215
02.24.14 | thread sux ban me faggoty avon |
apert
02.24.14 | Breaking bad is more like 24 than the wire to me anyway, Wire is a deep show that covers many different topics and themes. Breaking bad tries to be deep but it really isn't, just ends up with Walter White getting himself out of seemingly impossible situations using his chemistry and intellect in big action sequences. all the other characters beside Jesse are more like plot devices than living breathing characters. entertaining show for sure but not deserving of the universal acclaim in my opinion |
robertsona
02.24.14 | the wire>breaking bad. forever. dunno. sorry |
Emyay
02.24.14 | last nights td was kind of a let down after 4 and 5. 7 and 8 should be intense though |
EyesWideShut
02.24.14 | Yea last nights episode was the weakest of the season, but its just a nice build up to something great that coming.. Makes you wonder in Marty's oldest daughter went to a Tuddle school..
BB has been off the air for what, 6 months... The Wire has been off for over 5 years and was shown during The Sopranos era of T.V... Considering how much better every show was back then speaks on the greatness of The Wire.. |
qwe3
02.25.14 | " Breaking bad tries to be deep but it really isn't, just ends up with Walter White getting himself out of seemingly impossible situations using his chemistry and intellect in big action sequences."
eh i think youre selling breaking bad short in a very big way. there is incredible depth to the show, the imagery and cinematography do a lot for the way the story is told.
And your point about characters being mere plot devices i just don't understand how anyone could think that. The character development is flawless. I didn't like the character of Hank at all in season 1 but he became my absolute favourite character in the show over time because the show is so good at humanising characters in ways that don't ever jolt you out of the narrative.
Also in hindsight I don't think you can really compare the wire and breaking bad but people do because they're the "best" (ie most critically acclaimed) shows of their respective eras i guess. Wire is a lot more ensemble driven and is more a tale of a city, whereas BB focuses on a smaller group of people and is about those people rather than the city of albuquerque.
idk theyre both amazing shows in their own rights, the only negative things i have to say are 1) walt jr is a fairly weak character and probably the closest thing to a "plot device" in the show and 2) season 5 of the wire was the least good and that's frustrating because it was the last one. still amazing. |
klap
02.25.14 | first season of the americans was really underrated |
qwe3
02.25.14 | i keep telling people about that show but its house of cards this true detective that and im not worthy |
klap
02.25.14 | agreed. i'm a big fan of true detective but think house of cards gets way too much praise for what it is. |
qwe3
02.25.14 | kevin spacey in a political show 5/5
i mean it's a great show though |
apert
02.25.14 | what i meant by plot devices is that none of the characters really do anything except when they're reacting to Walt, the whole show revolves around him and yeah it's supposed to but in other anti-hero shows like Sopranos the support characters have they're own plot arcs and this makes the characters more realistic in my opinion. And i agree that BB and Wire are a bad comparison but it won't stop people making it. I still think its one of the best shows in the last few years just not up to my favourites Sopranos, Wire, Deadwood imo |
Faraudo
02.25.14 | Agree with Klap, Season 1 of The Americans is criminally underrated, amazing show. |
qwe3
02.25.14 | "in other anti-hero shows like Sopranos the support characters have they're own plot arcs and this makes the characters more realistic in my opinion."
yeah but Sopranos is a different beast again, I'd say more in line with the Wire than BB. BB is about one man finding his true passion and that it is something heinous is really the crux of how everything develops. Tony Soprano is, from the outset, shown to be that anti-hero who is still likeable because he takes care of his family etcetc but with BB it's about a good man slowly becoming twisted and how it affects everyone around him, and it's so perfectly paced that his evil creeps up on you until BAM he's watching a helpless woman choke to death on her own vomit or poisoning an infant or whatever. He's a sympathetic character who becomes vile and repulsive and it's fantastic that even through all this I STILL wanted to see what would happen to him. There have been shows where I simply haven't cared about a character due to them being unlikable but BB makes Walter so magnetic (cranston's performance also has somethign to do with that.) And there are plot arcs centered around certain peripheral characters, but agreed definitely not as fleshed out as on Sopranos.
also I think Deadwood's amazing but its lack of an ending is so heartbreaking |
SonofSnow
02.25.14 | I'm not really sure True Detective's writing is all that great, the acting is what makes this show. |
NordicMindset
02.25.14 | I got to see this show |
avonbarksdale221
02.25.14 | @sonofsnow
Are you serious? Some of the best writing on TV |
Faraudo
02.25.14 | Well yeah, episode six was a bit slower, but I enjoyed it a lot, 4 and 5 were sublime, but 6 managed to advance the plot quite well. |
avonbarksdale221
02.25.14 | The creator of the show tweeted that episodes 1-3 were act 1, 4-6 were act 2 and that this final episodes would be act 3. Man, Monday cannot come soon enough! |
titanslayer
02.25.14 | "get your shit rtogether and torrent that shit asap."
Reported |
Rowan5215
02.25.14 | Hey avon watch this show called the X-Files its pretty good |
apert
02.25.14 | I think the last 2 eps will be intense, ep 6 was slower but it wasn't bad by any means |
Deathconscious
02.25.14 | i actually liked episode 6 better than 4 and 5. |
KILL
02.25.14 | rly nice and good |
avonbarksdale221
02.25.14 | 6 was still great, a necessary step back from the full throttle matre of the pervious two eps. |
NordicMindset
02.25.14 | It's only one season? |
klap
02.25.14 | http://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-americans/season-2 |
NordicMindset
02.25.14 | what channel guys |
avonbarksdale221
02.25.14 | HBO ofc. And its an anthology series, meaning that each series will focus on different character and a different case. |
Thane
02.25.14 | tbh i don't mind that it's an anthology at all. this seems like it will tie up nicely and i can imagine wanting to watch it again without it being a two month commitment. plus they can get actors like MM/WH who don't usually do tv. |
Faraudo
02.26.14 | "The Americans" is back tonight!! |
TheSupernatural
04.30.14 | I finished this a couple weeks ago. Might be the best show ever. Definitely some of the best acting I've ever seen |
avonbarksdale221
04.30.14 | Its certainly one of the best individual seasons of tv Ive seen. s |
SitarHero
04.30.14 | The acting was certainly great, but the writing was simply stunning, and the cinematography was pretty amazing too. All-round tour de force. |
Emyay
04.30.14 | indeed. a very special season |