Artuma: 2019-20 NHL: Melnyk is a hack

Artuma 09.30.19	hockey is here baby
Trundle 09.30.19	The leafs ran train on Dubas in the last two off seasons.
mindleviticus 09.30.19	Didn't know you were a hockey fan artuma. I love me some nhl. BTW The bolts will choke again
Artuma 10.01.19	yeah man hockey is great. i think the bolts learned their lesson
coachcake 10.01.19	don't see the sharks winning pacific. way too many holes. though i definitely see us unfortunately running into vegas in the playoffs and getting run over. ballsy pick for the isles/sabres. i think columbus surprises and is decent. can't wait for the season
unclereich 10.01.19	Your love for the sharks makes me :^)
Artuma 10.01.19	sharks do have a few holes in goaltending and injury prone d but if those hold up adequately i think they have as good a chance as anyone to win the presidents. ek's health is key
unclereich 10.01.19	well said, it would also be lovely if Kane an co. actually shows up to the playoffs
Artuma 10.02.19	well kane won't be showing up in the first three games this year that's for sure lol
DrMaximus 10.02.19	interesting
Artuma 10.03.19	damn vegas is really going to be good this year
MotokoKusanagi 10.03.19	pengos are going to have a resurgence this year. feels damn good to have hockey back on tv
unclereich 10.03.19	sharks took a big dump fuckin EK calling out sick essentially was lol worthy as per usual
SmashIsTheWay94 10.06.19	well the offense hasn't been there for the bruins yet but their goalie tandem looks even stronger than last season oh and lol leafs
DominionMM1 10.06.19	it’s early but the avs look goooooooooood oh and stan kroenke can suck my dick
SmashIsTheWay94 10.11.19	bruins got fucked by video review tonight. don't think I've seen a team have 2 goals overturned in a game before still a very entertaining game but god damn
Artuma 10.11.19	i definitely jinxed the sharks lmao
unclereich 10.11.19	Nah not really, they started very slow last year too
SmashIsTheWay94 10.11.19	for some reason the sharks flopping to start the year makes me kind of happy. not even sure why lol
SmashIsTheWay94 10.11.19	seeing the leafs give up monstrous amounts of goals never gets old
unclereich 10.11.19	Well the sharks are an extremely streaky team that will often have multiple .500 months then catch fire for long stretches
SmashIsTheWay94 10.11.19	yeah I'm sure they'll be fine
Artuma 10.11.19	"seeing the leafs give up monstrous amounts of goals never gets old" and the best part is it just won't end!
SmashIsTheWay94 10.15.19	the noodly guy with 4 goals today and will probably win the Rocket Richard. sweet
Artuma 10.15.19	"probably" lol as if there's no competition this early in the season. good player though
DominionMM1 10.15.19	dyk patrik laine had a 5 goal game once
SmashIsTheWay94 10.15.19	yeah I was just exaggerating and showing my bias. he was on pace for about 50 last season before he got hurt so you never know
Artuma 10.15.19	yeah i mean james neal has 8 goals and he was dumped for milan fucking lucic lol. it's still early
DominionMM1 10.16.19	besides everyone knows rantanen is gonna win all the awards
Artuma 10.16.19	sure, in that swiss league. too bad he signed already so i doubt he's going to accomplish that
unclereich 10.17.19	Evander Kane with a first period hat trick :0
Artuma 10.17.19	that's sweet. also mcjesus is on fire. dallas not so much
unclereich 10.17.19	oilers took a nap last year and seemed to have suddenly awoken
Artuma 10.18.19	victor mete has finally scored, in his 127th career game
MO 10.18.19	ottawan here, fuck melnyk
Artuma 10.18.19	he really is a disgrace to the sens and the city of ottawa and in fact the whole nhl
unclereich 10.18.19	I cant believe people live in ottawa
MO 10.18.19	believe it
DominionMM1 10.18.19	at least melnyk isn’t getting into pissing contests with cable companies as to where local fans can’t watch the games but yeah he’s awful
unclereich 10.18.19	Do they have walmart in ottawa
DominionMM1 10.20.19	jost with the hatty tonight everything’s coming up avs
Artuma 10.20.19	habs start has been encouraging as well. the team is playing every bit as well as last year except the pp isn't a tire fire anymore
Artuma 11.12.19	don cherry fired lol
unclereich 11.12.19	you people!?
Artuma 11.12.19	what a joke. an 85 year old man wants immigrants to show respect to the veterans and everyone goes grab their hatchets. nobody has taken cherry seriously in years yet hell is loose when he says "you people", just ridiculous
unclereich 11.12.19	hopefully he can enjoy retirement now tho
DominionMM1 11.13.19	man signing donskoi is looking like a killer move by the avs not sure why the sharks let him walk oh wait a sec...i know why
Artuma 11.13.19	hot streak but good for him
DominionMM1 11.13.19	oh it’s definitely due in huge part to rantanen and landeskog being out but it’s nice to get that kind of production from him regardless
DominionMM1 11.13.19	oh and can we just give makar the calder right now?
Trundle 11.13.19	the flyers seemed to have turned things around, i'm cautiously optimistic again, tho i feel bad for Sam Morin, really wanted to see him in the line up this year, then he tore an ACL for the second year in a row, dunno if it was the same leg, his career's probably over at 24 and i don't think he even had 10 games in the show, former first round pick Nolan Patrick has been out since the start of the season with a "migraine disorder" he got a concussion in both his first two seasons, his future is incredibly uncertain and he might also be done before he ever really started, what's crazy is the prospect pool is so deep, it looks like the team will be fine. Hextall pretty much built this team and now Fletcher is gonna reap the rewards
Artuma 11.23.19	time to review the first quarter? some notes - west is wide open, lots of projected playoff teams struggling (nashville, sj, calgary, vegas) - mcdrai on god mode - la and min terrible as expected - i'm eating crow on the isles - i'm also eating crow on the sens - buffalo deja vu - lol laffs, it's been a surprising tire fire
unclereich 11.23.19	Sj is on fire after a horrible start
SmashIsTheWay94 11.23.19	refreshing to see the bolts struggling a bit so far, although they'll still probably turn it around. even more refreshing to see the leafs shit the bed
Artuma 11.23.19	i wouldn't be too concerned if i was a tampa fan. they've been pretty quiet but not like shockingly bad. they will still easily make the playoffs and that's really when their season starts
SmashIsTheWay94 11.29.19	bruins low key have just three regulation losses all season. sweet comeback win against the rags today, and hopefully another thumping of the habs on sunday
Arditi 11.29.19	Your east standings are 75% accurate, your west is way off. BTW Bruins stanley cup champs.
DominionMM1 11.29.19	only if the avs can't ice their full team
Artuma 11.30.19	"your west is way off" yup fucking oilers fucking up my predictions
Trundle 12.01.19	flyers are tcob now, with frost and farabee, it doesn't look like we'll miss a beat with Patrick out indefinitely
unclereich 12.12.19	Sharks fire Pete DeBoer
Artuma 12.12.19	5th one to bite the dust since detroit last won a game, wonder when's blashill's turn but whatever happened to jim montgomery??
Artuma 01.24.20	anyone intending to watch the asg? yeah, me neither
SmashIsTheWay94 01.24.20	no plans to watch the game but I'm glad pasta gets to rock the "C"
DominionMM1 01.24.20	the skills comp can be pretty cool but the game itself is always whatever
Trundle 01.24.20	the all star game is pretty much a waste of time, no one seems to like it, the players, the coaches, and the analysts
Artuma 01.25.20	yeah the skills competition is sort of entertaining but there are zero reasons to watch the game itself. like half the players chosen to the game don't want to go
Artuma 03.05.20	12 of 16 teams i predicted to make the playoffs currently in a playoff spot. probably the best record i've had since i started doing this
MyNameIsPencil 03.05.20	fuck the blues
unclereich 03.05.20	probably the worst season ive ever endured as a fan m/
DominionMM1 03.05.20	avs are doing much better than i expected with all the injuries. just 2 points out of first place with a game in hand
unclereich 03.05.20	we need to get this thread back on track
DominionMM1 03.05.20	when the playoffs start i think we’ll see a lot more traffic
unclereich 03.05.20	and crying(from me)
DominionMM1 03.05.20	yeah those karlsson, couture, and burns contracts are tough
Artuma 03.05.20	"probably the worst season ive ever endured as a fan m/" they were bound to come down at some point, the sharks have been such a solid franchise for such a long time. sucks for them though that this happens when they don't have their own first round pick
Spec 03.05.20	Melnyk blows dogs for quarters.
Trundle 03.05.20	flyers keep surprising me, they dominated washington in a really physical game, Tom wilson was taking runs at everyone, and now the caps also have hathaway, dillon, and gudas as well. I would not wanna have to face them in the playoffs
MyNameIsPencil 03.06.20	so how embarrassing will tampa's exit be this season???
kevbogz 03.06.20	almost as embarrassing as the Sharks entire season
MyNameIsPencil 03.06.20	i knew a drop off with the sharks was inevitable but dear god I thought they'd be better than this blow it up?
DominionMM1 03.06.20	even if they wanted to i’m not sure they could. the contracts for burns, couture, karlsson, and vlasic account for roughly 40% of the team’s total cap. because of the length of those contracts, they’re all virtually untradeable. they could trade guys like hertl and meier but i don’t think that would be the best idea.
DominionMM1 03.06.20	rip pocket rocket
MyNameIsPencil 03.06.20	"the contracts for burns, couture, karlsson, and vlasic account for roughly 40% of the team’s total cap." oooooofffffff
Artuma 03.06.20	"rip pocket rocket" rip AHRD
Snake. 03.08.20	sooooo fellas trading jack eichel: bold move or fucking idiotic?
Titan 03.08.20	Rangers gonna make it?
DominionMM1 03.08.20	“trading jack eichel: bold move or fucking idiotic?“ gonna go with the latter here
DominionMM1 03.08.20	“Rangers gonna make it?“ haven’t seen their remaining schedule but I’m gonna say no
Artuma 03.08.20	"trading jack eichel: bold move or fucking idiotic?" ridiculous idea. eichel is possibly a top 5 player in the league
CosmicPie 03.08.20	The hell is up with the Stars? Lost 4 damn games in a row....
JokineAugustus 03.08.20	Colorado 90-95 pts. Lol even with all our injuries we should still make it to 100 pretty easily.
Artuma 03.08.20	i had colorado at 100-105 points though, so not far off eh?
JokineAugustus 03.08.20	Oh I must have been looking at Chicago. My bad lol. We need Mikko and Makar back bad.
Snake. 03.08.20	really spot on with the sharks winning the president's trophy eh
DominionMM1 03.08.20	“We need Mikko and Makar back bad.” and kadri and burakovsky and grubauer and calvert it’s actually surprising the avs have done as well as they have with all the injuries to the skill players
JokineAugustus 03.12.20	Well the plus side is when NHL resumes, we should have a full roster again. I'm planning on going to Colorado at the end of the month, but doubtful it will be back by then.
Snake. 03.12.20	if the league doesn't resume operations after april 30th the season is basically lost
DominionMM1 03.12.20	probably not gonna happen
Divaman 03.12.20	I thoroughly approve of closing down the nhl. The Islanders were sinking like a stone.
DominionMM1 03.12.20	i’m a little miffed that the wings won’t have a chance at the lowest point total in the shootout era and the record will stay with the avs
Snake. 03.12.20	it's hilarious that they actually managed to clinch last place before the league's shutdown lmfao
CosmicPie 03.13.20	This may be beneficial for the Stars.
Artuma 03.13.20	"I thoroughly approve of closing down the nhl. The Islanders were sinking like a stone." regardless of who was doing well and who wasn't there was really no other choice here than shut the league down
SmashIsTheWay94 03.13.20	if the rest of the season is cancelled then the bruins win the cup by default, right?
Artuma 03.13.20	i mean, sure, but it's not like anyone is gonna care. it's a season cut in the regular season by a worldwide pandemic. there are no winners here
mindleviticus 03.14.20	FUCK BETTMAN I WANT MY CUP
SmashIsTheWay94 03.14.20	@art i know i was just messing lol. i'm still holding out hope that the rest of the season isn't totally cancelled, but obviously safety is the top priority
Artuma 06.04.20	so, the season is not dead after all
Titan 06.04.20	Lets goooooooo
Artuma 06.04.20	gonna make all my predictions by coin flip because that's what it most likely is
Titan 06.04.20	Rangers get a series with the Canes....we've played them well this year but like you said.... who knows?
bigweinerdon 06.04.20	your san jose prediction was pretty funny
Artuma 06.04.20	glad you enjoyed i don't really even like the sharks so it's cool to me lol
Titan 06.04.20	Art had a boatload of classic picks
Snake. 06.04.20	oof marron' the sabres are a fkn joke edit: NEVERMIND THE FUCKING SENS ARE THE BIGGER JOKE
DominionMM1 06.04.20	can’t wait to get this thing rolling. avs should be healthy and ready to go.
Satellite 06.04.20	bummed that the season was cut short before the wings had a chance to turn things around. we'll never know how things would've played out over an 82-game schedule.
DominionMM1 06.04.20	lol i was really bummed that the worst record in the salary cap era that the wings were on pace to break will still be held by the avs
Satellite 06.04.20	if we draft 4th i'm going to drink myself into a coma
DominionMM1 06.05.20	happened to the avs twice in the last 3 years not that i’m bummed about getting makar
Satellite 06.05.20	i'm definitely not bummed about ending up with zadina or seider, but we could use some of that oilers lottery luck this year.
MyNameIsPencil 06.05.20	Lol I just wanna see my Blackhawks beat the oilers for the meme. Even if I doubt it'll happen
Satellite 06.05.20	we've used the word "bummed" in 4 of the last 5 comments (now 5/7)
DominionMM1 06.05.20	theyll be ok. yzerman will get shit figured out.
Satellite 06.05.20	oh yeah, i'll never second-guess stevie y.
JokineAugustus 06.05.20	Go Avs. At least we will be healthy for 1 game
JokineAugustus 06.05.20	Does Makar win the Calder though or Hughes?
DominionMM1 06.05.20	it will probably come down to games played so i’m guessing it’ll be hughes
Artuma 06.05.20	"lol i was really bummed that the worst record in the salary cap era that the wings were on pace to break will still be held by the avs" oh don't worry they'll lose the lottery like the avs did back then and have another run for that record next year although the avs came out with arguably the 2nd best player out of that draft so the pain was probably worth it after all
Satellite 06.05.20	according to the 4 tankathon draft lotto sims i ran this morning, the wings have a 75% chance of landing the top pick. this is irrefutable.
DominionMM1 06.05.20	“although the avs came out with arguably the 2nd best player out of that draft so the pain was probably worth it after all” true. i just find it amazing that the avs had the pick for the worst record in the league twice in 3 years (their own in 2017 and ottawa’s pick last year) and slid back as far as possible both times.
Satellite 06.05.20	can relate
Satellite 06.05.20	really hope to be able to hate the avs again someday
DominionMM1 06.05.20	avs-wings scf fingers crossed the hate just aint what it used to be but we do hate bertuzzi for multiple reasons
Satellite 06.05.20	everyone who's not a wings fan hates bert for what i can only assume are perfectly valid reasons. been a while since we had a guy like that.
DominionMM1 06.05.20	mostly because of this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGx479Zhgik his name doesn’t help either
Satellite 06.05.20	the sins of the uncle
Satellite 06.05.20	also lol that's our boy
DominionMM1 06.25.20	kevin lowe? really?
Satellite 06.27.20	anyone watching the lottery? i'm so ready to be hurt again.
DominionMM1 06.27.20	i am now
Satellite 06.27.20	aaaand i want to die
DominionMM1 06.27.20	oof whats up with the extra team added in?
Satellite 06.27.20	we could have 95% odds of landing the top pick and it wouldn't go our way. fuck this shit. i'd love for us to take perfetti at 4 if stutzle isn't available. he plays on my hometown ohl team and is fun as hell to watch.
DominionMM1 06.27.20	what part of the mitten you from again?
Satellite 06.27.20	saginaw
DominionMM1 06.27.20	didnt know they had an ohl team
DominionMM1 06.27.20	also if the pens, oilers, or blackhawks get the first pick i’ll quit
Satellite 06.27.20	yeah, the saginaw spirit. vincent trocheck, brandon saad and filip hronek (and a few other nhlers) used to play here. our team this year was stacked before covid killed the season.
Trundle 06.27.20	i fought Tie Domi at a bar one time, and he's a lot tougher than you'd think, and i suckered him, all i had, and i just cranked him and he just stood there, and sort of blinked, and then he beat me, almost to death, so don't ever fight Tie Domi at a bar
DominionMM1 07.16.20	so who do we like for the calder and the pearson?
Satellite 07.16.20	makar for the calder and draisaitl for the hart (which is what i'm assuming you meant). rask for the vezina even if he only played in 41 games.
DominionMM1 07.16.20	nah i meant the lindsay (im still in the habit of calling it the pearson). hart finalists havent been announced yet but im guessing its gonna be the same as the lindsay. hellebuyck for the vezina is about the only award i’m really sure of. everything else is kind of up in the air. calder- hughes (makar would be a shoe in had he not missed a bunch of games) hart- panarin (have a feeling draisaitl will be punished because of mcjesus) lindsay- draisaitl norris- josi adams- torts byng- who gives a fuck masterton- ryan
Satellite 07.16.20	yeah i still call the lindsay the pearson, too, tbh. my guess is mcdavid for that, but it could just as easily be draisaitl. torts for the adams is basically no contest.
Artuma 07.22.20	"so don't ever fight Tie Domi at a bar" don't ever fight his son either if you happen to be a douchebag ryan kesler
bigweinerdon 07.22.20	holy shit boys these playoffs are gonna be an absolute tit fest
Artuma 07.22.20	"hart- panarin (have a feeling draisaitl will be punished because of mcjesus)" i still think drai's gonna win because art ross (and he did still score a shit ton of points when mcjesus was away) but i hope panarin wins it
Snake. 07.22.20	mack deserves it way more than either drai or panarin
DominionMM1 07.22.20	it really depends on how you want to frame it. draisaitl had the better season while playing on a weaker team than mackinnon. one could also say panarin had the least amount of help and still dragged his team to the playoffs.
Snake. 07.22.20	the rangers had four players score north of 50 points this season, the avs only had one mika zibanejad also threw up a 75 point season despite missing a pretty good chunk of the season
Snake. 07.22.20	josi is my sleeper nominee for the hart tbh
Intothepit 07.22.20	They announced the nominees yesterday. No Josi. I think Panarin has it locked up.
Snake. 07.23.20	i know i'm saying that i think josi deserves the hart more than panarin
DominionMM1 07.23.20	true but the argument against mackinnon is that his team didn’t rely on him to produce like the oilers did with draisaitl and the rangers did with panarin. i certainly don’t necessarily buy that but the hart usually goes to the guy who wins the art ross pretty convincingly and makes the playoffs or the guy who finishes near the top of the scoring list who plays on a mediocre team that squeezes into the playoffs and no way josi was ever in consideration for mvp. the only two dmen to win it since expansion were orr and pronger. the only reason pronger won it was because jagr missed like 20 games that year and the blues had the league’s best record
Titan 07.23.20	Panarin isn't in the playoffs yet. He isn't winning the Hart either. But as a Ranger fan, I'm thrilled he was nominated.
DominionMM1 07.23.20	he kinda is though as the best of 5 series are going to be considered playoff games
Titan 07.23.20	i haven't heard that....they keep saying the winners of each series will go to the playoffs but i hear ya and probably agree....5 rounds instead of 4
bigweinerdon 07.23.20	I have the feeling Carolina is gonna go deep. Something about that team tells me they're dangerous, that is if Mrazek plays decent.
DominionMM1 07.23.20	i mean they keep calling the best of 5 round the qualifiers but the voters obviously consider it the playoffs otherwise panarin wouldn’t be a finalist
DominionMM1 07.23.20	https://www.seattlekrakenhockey.com/
Artuma 07.24.20	that shit really kraks me up
Artuma 07.24.20	"mika zibanejad also threw up a 75 point season despite missing a pretty good chunk of the season" zibanejad only started truly beasting after coming back from injury. it was all panarin for the first half of the year
SmashIsTheWay94 07.26.20	it just really hit me yesterday how close we are to having hockey back, and now this will probably be the longest week of my life
Titan 07.27.20	A lot changes during a layoff....going to be really interesting to see how this plays out LETS-GO-RAN-GERS!
Artuma 07.27.20	no idea how to feel about this honestly. the habs were well out of it at the time of the stoppage and now i'm supposed to be getting ready for them to compete in the playoffs the chance to get lafrenière if they lose makes it even weirder
DominionMM1 07.27.20	the habs would be the team i’d like to see get lafreniere
Artuma 07.28.20	that'd be epic
DominionMM1 07.31.20	so these exhibition games have been...uh...yeah
SmashIsTheWay94 07.31.20	wasn't able to watch the b's against Columbus last night but I guess it wasn't pretty. oh well I guess
Artuma 08.01.20	game time boys not even trying to make any predictions
DominionMM1 08.01.20	wait i thought scotiabank arena was in ottawa
Satellite 08.01.20	ottawa's arena was called scotiabank place until a few seasons ago. before that it was the corel centre.
DominionMM1 08.01.20	yeah i remember when it was the corel center. when did they rename air canada center?
SmashIsTheWay94 08.02.20	good one brewing between the habs and pens part of me would be annoyed if the habs somehow won this series, but then I also like the possibility of them matching up with the b's
DominionMM1 08.02.20	so oilers getting the first pick yeah?
Artuma 08.02.20	"when did they rename air canada center?" two years ago i think "part of me would be annoyed if the habs somehow won this series, but then I also like the possibility of them matching up with the b's" would love to play the bruins but they also need to win the round robin for that to happen
Wildcardbitchesss 08.02.20	“fuck the blues” found the bruins fan
DominionMM1 08.02.20	man all these penalties are brutal
Trundle 08.03.20	flyers 2-0 against the pens and the bruin's boom baby
Wildcardbitchesss 08.03.20	theres no fuckin way we're getting taken out by Colorado.
DominionMM1 08.03.20	why not? not like the blues are a vastly superior team
Snake. 08.03.20	detroit should pick first overall the draft lottery is a literal crime
Satellite 08.03.20	[2]
Wildcardbitchesss 08.03.20	lol I didn’t mean it that way. I’ll just be one sad boi if we lose first round.
Artuma 08.04.20	"detroit should pick first overall the draft lottery is a literal crime" >team doesn't get rewarded for being a horrible trainwreck >crime fuck the mentality that the worst teams should get the best picks automatically
Mister Twister 08.04.20	man holy shit that Presidents' Trophy pick didn't age well
Artuma 08.04.20	most of my predictions don't age well so nothing new there
bigweinerdon 08.04.20	of course im right about carolina, i swear i should be a fuckin analyst boys. they look electric out there
Snake. 08.04.20	"fuck the mentality that the worst teams should get the best picks automatically" so it's totally fair that a team like pittsburgh who could've made the playoffs without the round robin format should get lafreniere over the worst regular season team in over 25 years? this ain't the nba bro and it shouldn't even be allowed there
SmashIsTheWay94 08.04.20	"of course im right about carolina, i swear i should be a fuckin analyst boys. they look electric out there" for real they've pretty much controlled both games in that series from start to finish. that top line is the real deal and pretty fun to watch
SmashIsTheWay94 08.04.20	also the b's looked horrible in their first game. forgot to get on here and bitch about them
DominionMM1 08.04.20	as good as theyve looked i still can’t find any reason to care about the hurricanes
Trundle 08.04.20	on the draft lottery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmpfUzzSKoI it's been around 25 years
Snake. 08.04.20	it should have never existed
Artuma 08.05.20	"so it's totally fair that a team like pittsburgh who could've made the playoffs without the round robin format should get lafreniere over the worst regular season team in over 25 years" um, why not? sure that's incredible luck for them but it's better than promote the shitty tanking ideology
DominionMM1 08.05.20	true but most really bad teams over the years werent actually purposely tanking
Artuma 08.05.20	that's because of there's a lottery in place. if you watch those early 90s senators and tell me they weren't purposely tanking i don't really know what to say
DominionMM1 08.05.20	the sens were an expansion team and their first season was 1992-93 so i’m not sure how they were purposely tanking in the early 90s
Artuma 08.05.20	when you're actively trying to be league-worst it's tanking. the sens were dreadful for years and didn't even try to do anything about their roster other than picking up 1st overalls because that's how the rules were back then. disgusting if you're asking me same could be said about the sens these past two years but at least they haven't been rewarded with the top pick
Snake. 08.05.20	yeah tanking is such a blatantly arbitrary term because no hockey franchise is stupid enough to pull the chute and intentionally be terrible for years without realizing that they're going to be hemorrhaging money and developing a losing culture the reason that the sabres now, the oilers of the last decade, and the 90s sens were so terrible was because of pure unadulterated ineptitude, them losing the chance for the first overall pick gives the better player a chance to play for a more successful team yes but it doesn't help the core problems with the team who finished last. and what about the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th overall picks, are they just chopped liver?
DominionMM1 08.05.20	given the circumstances of expansion at that time its certainly understandable that you’d want to rid yourself of veterans who have value in order to acquire picks and prospects and the lottery certainly hasn’t stopped teams from doing that.
Snake. 08.05.20	"didn't even try to do anything about their roster other than picking up 1st overalls because that's how the rules were back then. disgusting if you're asking me" okay but between '93 and '96 how many first overall picks were touted to be generational talents? daigle is probably the only one but he absolutely flopped; the dead puck era was a cursed time tbh
Artuma 08.05.20	"no hockey franchise is stupid enough to pull the chute and intentionally be terrible for years without realizing that they're going to be hemorrhaging money and developing a losing culture" melnyk would like to have a word with you the sabres were also definitely tanking to get mcdavid, which they didn't and that's why you don't tank. that's the purpose of the lottery. and don't get me wrong, i am in favour of worse teams getting better odds and higher picks in general because it helps with the parity, just that a lottery system like this is necessary as well
Snake. 08.05.20	but the lottery is a completely random selection? the team that actively tanks still has a shot at first overall, it doesn't prevent teams from tanking to finish in dead last.
DominionMM1 08.05.20	true but when a team can have the 12th worst record in the league and move up to the 3rd oa pick i think the system needs some tweaking
Artuma 08.05.20	"but the lottery is a completely random selection? the team that actively tanks still has a shot at first overall, it doesn't prevent teams from tanking to finish in dead last." i mean, if you truly want to tank i guess it's possible but it probably isn't worth it like the 2015 sabres proved "true but when a team can have the 12th worst record in the league and move up to the 3rd oa pick i think the system needs some tweaking" once again i don't see the problem with that. it's not like the odds are great either
DominionMM1 08.05.20	i just don’t think something like that should even be possible no matter how slim the odds are
Artuma 08.05.20	well i guess that's your opinion then
DominionMM1 08.05.20	i mean i get the point of the lottery but the vast majority of the time, bad teams aren’t bad by design (the 83-84 pens and 14-15 sabres being rare exceptions)
bigweinerdon 08.05.20	its not really a huge deal considering there is still a decent chance of the 1st OA pick being a yakupov, unless they have exceptional player status. any player picked in the 1st round is gonna be sick
Titan 08.05.20	nice display by my New York Rangers after beating Carolina 5 times in a row prior to this series now please fire Quinn.....should've never fired either of the two coaches before him
DominionMM1 08.05.20	slats can take over
Trundle 08.05.20	seriously guys, just watch the link i posted, the worst teams in the league have consistently gotten the number one pick, more often than better teams, now the problem lies in the percentage or probability of each of the bad teams chances to actually get the number 1 pick, or getting number 5 it's just the way she goes, sometimes she goes, sometime she doesn't, fuckin way she goes
DominionMM1 08.05.20	i’ve already watched it but it doesn’t really address the problem with the draft lottery
Snake. 08.05.20	"it's just the way she goes, sometimes she goes, sometime she doesn't, fuckin way she goes" could literally say the same thing if there wasn't a lottery but nooooooooo muh tanking not good sport
Trundle 08.05.20	can anyone actually name an organized pro sport with a better randomized draft order?
DominionMM1 08.05.20	the point is that it shouldn’t be randomized at least not like it is now. a team that finishes with the 13th worst record shouldn’t be able to jump to the 2nd OA spot (2017 flyers) or the 12th worst record jumping to 3rd OA (2019 blackhawks)
Trundle 08.05.20	again, why should you reward a team for outright tanking.? this is the only way the rule is even enforced at all, there's always been tanking, just not so obviously recently. The video show's the problematic matter of the top 5 picks and the probability each of the worst teams to get in top3 again, if we still have the shootout and 3v3 ot, the draft lottery can get frustrating, i would way rather have a system like this than the NBA, i don't know what NFL is like,
DominionMM1 08.05.20	i’m not sure how the nba does it but the nfl and mlb do their draft order based on only standings without any kind of randomization i get the idea that you want to discourage tanking but it just doesn’t happen all that often enough to justify the current system. there’s a very fine line between “rebuilding” and purposely tanking and it can get muddy determining which is which i’d like to see the nhl change the points system as to where a regulation win gets you 3 points, a OT/SO win gets 2, and a OT/SO loss gets 1.
Snake. 08.05.20	again, how would you even define a team that "tanks"? it's a completely arbitrary term, not every team that finishes last was trying to tank
DominionMM1 08.05.20	edmonton wasn’t tanking as they got four 1st overall picks in 6 years (plus the 3rd OA that got them draisaitl) were the pens tanking in the early 00s when they traded away massive chunks of their roster, including jagr, kovalev, and straka?
Snake. 08.05.20	no the jags trade just sucked that bad
DominionMM1 08.05.20	they were just trying to shed salary at that point because they overextended themselves financially throughout the 90s. I’m sure mario would’ve traded himself at that time if he could have. but I mean...were they “tanking”?
Snake. 08.06.20	not really sure why they'd tank with mario back in the lineup but my god those teams were awful would've been wild seeing ovi in pens jersey tho
Artuma 08.06.20	didn't mario buy the team dirt cheap and then design his own payment so that the pens would survive? there wouldn't be a team in pittsburgh without mario stepping up at the turn of the century
Trundle 08.06.20	oskar lindblom is coming back, after gettin diagnosed with bone cancer in December here we fuckin go boys!
Artuma 08.06.20	that's great to hear half a year ago his career was in question and now he's getting ready for the playoffs and has a nice fresh $9M contract in his pocket
Snake. 08.06.20	are they actually gonna let him inside the bubble?
Trundle 08.06.20	he's already been skating with the team for weeks, it's actually quite remarkable, he was leading the team in goals before his diagnosis
Artuma 08.06.20	feel bad for nolan patrick though, the kid has some great talent and hasn't played for a full year either now. i believe stephen johns had the same kind of issues and he missed like two years of hockey while struggling big time in everyday life
Snake. 08.06.20	yeah if you're philly how do you even deal with his RFA status? bridge deal at like league min?
Trundle 08.06.20	yes his future is very much in doubt. i've had brain damage and neurological/migraine disorders / experienced post-concussion syndrome. Both of his first two seasons he got a concussion early on, then he'd come back to soon cause the team needed him cause we were struggling big time. Of course he could come back, but the question is, when will he feel comfortable doing it? If he does come back for the playoffs it would be unreal.
Artuma 08.06.20	"yeah if you're philly how do you even deal with his RFA status? bridge deal at like league min?" he probably takes his qualifying offer
Trundle 08.06.20	i think Nolan is kind of hard to value at this point, i agree it'll be an interesting off season.
Artuma 08.06.20	wow the habs are for real
DominionMM1 08.06.20	“not really sure why they'd tank with mario back in the lineup” because the team was broke “didn't mario buy the team dirt cheap and then design his own payment so that the pens would survive?” no he was given a controlling interest in the team because the team still owed him over $30M and they couldnt afford to pay him that amount
Artuma 08.06.20	"no he was given a controlling interest in the team because the team still owed him over $30M and they couldnt afford to pay him that amount" aight so basically the same thing
Trundle 08.06.20	i shit you not, i got one of those sponsored ads pop up on my android phone, saying: "u MaD bRo?" and then a story about the habs beating the penguins.... I like the habs lol, and hate the penguins
DominionMM1 08.06.20	fucking with the yinzers i like it
Trundle 08.06.20	it was one of those "pocket" stories
Artuma 08.07.20	lol laffs
Mister Twister 08.07.20	three of the thirteen wins in Blue Jackets postseason history have been comebacks from 3-0 deficits, the Leafs were an extra layer of fucked beyond their normal history of blowing three goal leads
DominionMM1 08.07.20	i stopped watching after the leafs went up by 3. tuned back in a little later and it was ot. surprised but not surprised.
JokineAugustus 08.07.20	Leafs still a joke. Why do I even bother cheering for them. At least the Avs are killing it so far, not that these games matter besides to get warmed up.
DominionMM1 08.07.20	they may not be a huge deal but it is nice to see the avs outplaying some of the better western conference teams
DominionMM1 08.07.20	lol pens
Snake. 08.07.20	rip marleau
DominionMM1 08.08.20	man with the oilers losing there’s now a 25% chance that lafreniere goes to either pittsburgh or edmonton fuck
Artuma 08.08.20	and 0% chance taylor hall gets him
JokineAugustus 08.08.20	Wow that leafs comeback with 4 minutes left was very unexpected.
Artuma 08.09.20	that was like the most anti-toronto thing ever
DominionMM1 08.10.20	but losing tonight balanced it all out
Artuma 08.10.20	lolololololololololololololol lafreniere lottery tonight?
DominionMM1 08.10.20	yep please let it be florida
bigweinerdon 08.10.20	leafs need to draft a defenceman 100%
SmashIsTheWay94 08.10.20	every year it seems more and more pointless to predict what will happen but I'll do it anyway flyers in 5 bolts in 6 isles in 6 bruins in 6 knights in 4 avs in 5 flames in 6 blues in 7
DominionMM1 08.10.20	canucks- blues should be interesting
Artuma 08.10.20	"leafs need to draft a defenceman 100%" with the 1st overall pick, the toronto maple leafs are proud to select... jake sanderson?
Artuma 08.10.20	also flyers in 6 bolts in 7 caps in 6 hurricanes in 6 knights in 5 avs in 4 stars in 6 canucks in 6
SmashIsTheWay94 08.10.20	"canucks- blues should be interesting" I'll be kicking myself if I miss that one, was really close to taking the Canucks. They've got some great young talent and should be competitive for a while, but I guess the Blues are more built for the playoffs right now.
DominionMM1 08.11.20	i’m sure rags fans are happy rn
Artuma 08.11.20	two lottery wins in a row, they better be. this is huge for them. add to that the fact they get all american ufas every time and it's a huge fail if they don't win at least one cup in the next 10 years
bigweinerdon 08.11.20	we all knew the leafs werent winning that lottery
Artuma 08.11.20	would've made an interesting offseason considering how unbalanced their roster already is. they will have a lot of things to do either way though, as they have no cap space and their defense right now for the upcoming season is: rielly - sandin muzzin - holl ??? - ??? need to somehow find cap space to re-sign mikheyev, dermott and some depth pieces
DominionMM1 08.11.20	that Tavares contract man
Artuma 08.12.20	5ot game between tampa and cbj lmao so glad i went to sleep after 60 mins of play
ShadowRemains 08.12.20	jt miller has been a revelation for us, and obviously quinn hughes looks fantastic, still got a lot of dead weight to get rid of though before the young guys' ELCs are up oh and trading eric shitbranson for tanner pearson was massive W as well, benning has been better as of late
Mister Twister 08.12.20	imagine ever having Eric Gudbranson on your team to begin with though also as a Jackets fan who had to go to work just before the end of the third, today made me feel like I was dying for like four hours straight
bigweinerdon 08.12.20	tampa looks much better defensively compared to last year
Artuma 08.12.20	"imagine ever having Eric Gudbranson on your team to begin with though" imagine actually drafting erik gudbranson 3rd overall
Snake. 08.12.20	ok but would you rather have erik gudbranson on your team or fucking dylan mcilrath lmao it's like the rangers learned nothing from the huge specimen
JokineAugustus 08.13.20	Avs absolutely slaughtered Arizona. Surprised it took them so long to score. 3 goals in a minute and a half when they finally did.
Artuma 08.13.20	"ok but would you rather have erik gudbranson on your team or fucking dylan mcilrath lmao" it honestly doesn't matter, you can probably put mcilrath in gudbranson's spot and wouldn't miss a beat. mcilrath was always seen as a mere goon though and drafting him 10th overall was a joke even at the time which i don't think was the case for gudbranson. gudbranson was just heavily overrated by everyone to begin with
Mister Twister 08.13.20	would rather completely flub a 10th overall pick on a guy who shouldn't be in the NHL and barely ever see him play in the NHL than flub a 3rd overall pick on a guy who shouldn't be in the NHL and have him taking up a roster spot for a really long time by virtue of the GM not wanting to admit that he doesn't belong in the NHL McIlrath sucks but Gudbranson also sucks to a similar degree and in a similar way, and Gudbranson's played more games in a single season than McIlrath has in his entire NHL career on three separate occasions man, in retrospect, 2010 had a lost of early picks who either busted (Gudbranson, Burmistrov, McIlrath, Gormley) or didn't start to work out until their team got rid of them for very low value (Niederreiter, Connolly, Campbell)
Artuma 08.13.20	"flub a 3rd overall pick on a guy who shouldn't be in the NHL and have him taking up a roster spot for a really long time by virtue of the GM not wanting to admit that he doesn't belong in the NHL" not only this but he's actually getting paid like he's a 2nd pairing dman. it's freaking nuts what some size, grit and draft pedigree can do for your career even if you can't play hockey to save your life. some GMs just live the 90s forever "didn't start to work out until their team got rid of them for very low value (Niederreiter, Connolly, Campbell)" it just never ceases to baffle me how badly the isles messed the whole nino thing. they basically wasted a full year of his development playing him on the worst line in the league and then traded him for a career 4th liner. you don't draft a kid 5th overall and give him that kinda treatment
ShadowRemains 08.13.20	everyone's trying to find the next scott stevens when they should be looking for the next nick lidstrom
Mister Twister 08.13.20	yeah, at least with Connolly and Campbell it seemed like more a matter of hitting a wall in development within the organization, Connolly couldn't move up the depth chart and Campbell straight up was bad in the AHL let alone in the NHL, but Niederreiter being used alongside Marty Reasoner and Jay Pandolfo had to have been disastrous for his development, 1G 0A in 55GP is a hilarious statline, enforcers in the dead puck 90s put up more points than that
SmashIsTheWay94 08.14.20	Disappointed the b's couldn't stretch their lead to 2-0, but I was expecting a long series so I'm not worried yet. Shame that pasta hurt himself on the fucking celly in game 1 though smh
Artuma 08.14.20	canes are no joke, that top line is fire hoping the habs can steal one tonight, gotta keep it low scoring
bigweinerdon 08.14.20	with dougie back, carolina is a fuckin unit
Artuma 08.15.20	habs wiping floor with the flyers last night, i don't recall enjoying watching hockey this much in quite a while
DominionMM1 08.15.20	rask opting out damn
DominionMM1 08.15.20	rip svechnikov
SmashIsTheWay94 08.16.20	The large portion of B's fans who are already anti-Rask will never let him live this down. It's a shame
SmashIsTheWay94 08.16.20	Also here's Jack Edwards' horrendous take on the svechnikov injury: https://twitter.com/RealJackEdwards/status/1294710707162931200 Pretty much lost all my respect for the guy. What a shitty thing to say
SmashIsTheWay94 08.16.20	triple post but how about Darcy Kuemper? damn
DominionMM1 08.16.20	he stole one for the yotes for sure
Artuma 08.17.20	"Also here's Jack Edwards' horrendous take on the svechnikov injury: https://twitter.com/RealJackEdwards/status/1294710707162931200" why does this not surprise me at all? dude's total scum
Snake. 08.17.20	yeah this is decaf for him tbh the comments on roman polak's injury were way shittier
SmashIsTheWay94 08.17.20	idk I think this is just as bad
DominionMM1 08.18.20	lol i knew kuemper wouldn’t hold up forever
SmashIsTheWay94 08.18.20	just from what I've seen of that series and looking at the shot totals, the yotes have been straight embarrassing. the avs look great though and I definitely see an avs-knights western final coming and hey what a 3rd period from the b's last night holy shit
Thibs 08.18.20	knights v avs is likely but we've seen what the blues can do against speed and talent (when binny is on) Poor Reimer coughing up 3rd period goals in TO against the Bruins again
DominionMM1 08.18.20	dont know what to make of the blues at this point. i was encouraged by the avs outplaying them in the round robin but thats a bit different than a 7 game series. canucks are concerning as theyre like the avs except without a top 5 player vegas can go toe to toe with anyone but again i was encouraged by the fact that the avs played well against them and lost in gimmick ot dallas and calgary? meh
SmashIsTheWay94 08.19.20	yeah tbh I've had a hard time getting into the dallas/calgary series since I can't see either making it past the second round
Artuma 08.19.20	"canucks are concerning as theyre like the avs except without a top 5 player" pettersson is no mack for sure but i'd trust their goaltending more than the avs. the avs forward depth is a lot better though vegas and colorado seems like the most likely outcome from the west but wouldn't count the blues out either. i like the canucks but they're not ready to contend just yet
Thibs 08.19.20	big year for the canucks regardless. young talent, decent depth and markstrom appears to be legit
DominionMM1 08.19.20	man if the avs pp can continue to play like this they’ll go deep
SmashIsTheWay94 08.19.20	yeah no kidding
SmashIsTheWay94 08.19.20	bergy's series clincher from behind the goal line is one of the most beautiful things I've seen. really caught mrazek sleeping on that one
Artuma 08.20.20	"man if the avs pp can continue to play like this they’ll go deep" the whole series was just a nice picnic for them, the coyotes plain suck
DominionMM1 08.20.20	how bout that blues implosion
bigweinerdon 08.20.20	what the hells going on with hongcouver? definitely didn't think they would give the blues such a run. they dont even have toffoli in the lineup
Artuma 08.21.20	second tier trade deadline acquisitions are generally pretty overrated imo. i don't think they ever truly needed toffoli
Thibs 08.21.20	blues goaltending woes tbh...wouldn't be surprised with 2 blues wins upcoming tho
Artuma 08.24.20	vegas just pummeling the canucks damn
Storm In A Teacup 08.24.20	i don't know anything about hockey but we also have many hacks in basketball as well. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope comes first to mind.
DominionMM1 08.24.20	we’ve got kroenke for both sports
Storm In A Teacup 08.24.20	James Dolan is probably the biggest hack in basketball. He has given his hockey guys more control of their teams than the Knicks get. I think he still owns the Rangers? Knicks are a disaster.
Snake. 08.24.20	nah the rangers are just lucky some of the top prospects that they have are strongly reconsidering playing for them tbh
Artuma 08.24.20	is he also trying to actively alienate a passionate market from the team he owns?
Artuma 08.24.20	"nah the rangers are just lucky" not only are they lucky, they also benefit a ton from every big name free agent wanting to sign with them
JokineAugustus 08.25.20	Seems like the Avs secondary scoring was wasted on Arizona. Sloppy turnovers too
Artuma 08.25.20	knew the avs were vulnerable but didn't think the stars would expose them this badly vegas is going to play in the finals though so in the end it doesn't really matter
claygurnz 08.25.20	As a Canuck fan I'm torn between accepting we've achieved enough already and being adamant that we fix up pronto - that game 1 effort was poor.
bigweinerdon 08.25.20	avs went ham in the first period and then disappeared, stars showed em how to play big boy hockey
DominionMM1 08.25.20	i’m shocked. one team that couldn’t score with the man advantage in rs is now dependent on it for goals while the other that struggled to score at all is now scoring at will
Artuma 08.26.20	hockey is a random sport
claygurnz 08.26.20	Guess they were listening to me lol
bigweinerdon 08.26.20	canucks playoff run is a success even if they lose the next three straight, everyone is sleeping on that team
SmashIsTheWay94 08.27.20	oof bruins
DominionMM1 08.27.20	yeah they got tuned the fuck up
JokineAugustus 08.28.20	No more hockey, but for how long? At least this helps the Avs.
JokineAugustus 08.28.20	Oh nvm they only 2 took days off.
SmashIsTheWay94 08.31.20	I'd say the b's are pretty much toast, and if they can't come back I guess I'll jump on the vegas bandwagon that SCF prediction is looking pretty spot on right now
DominionMM1 08.31.20	“Oh nvm they only 2 took days off.“ 3 days obviously
Artuma 08.31.20	"that SCF prediction is looking pretty spot on right now" it's nice for once to not get made fun of for my predictions
Artuma 09.01.20	bye bye boston
bigweinerdon 09.01.20	Colorado went off. Wonder if they can do it again for two more games.
SmashIsTheWay94 09.01.20	another disappointing end to the season, but at least they went down swinging. felt like they played well enough to win that game wonder if this is the end of the road for Chara :(
SmashIsTheWay94 09.01.20	hope the avs can at least get one more. we need a game 7
DominionMM1 09.01.20	not gonna get my hopes up with the avs
JokineAugustus 09.01.20	I have faith the Avs can still win this. The powerplay needs to get going again though.
DominionMM1 09.01.20	its weird. their powerplay was average all year in terms of conversion rate but they dominated 5v5 and last night was more fitting of what kind of team they were during the regular season. goaltending is still the big issue. hutchinson got the w but its not like he had to do much and francouz has looked nothing like the guy we saw during the rs. i now know how flyers fans have felt for the last 25 years or so.
JokineAugustus 09.01.20	Yeah it will be a miracle to win this with Hutchinson.
Artuma 09.02.20	it's not like the stars aren't vulnerable though. don't expect the same sorta onslaught as we saw last game though
DominionMM1 09.03.20	well hopefully the avs can get a little r&r tomorrow
Satellite 09.03.20	nathan mackinnon is pretty good at hockey.
Snake. 09.03.20	stars choking on their own spit
DominionMM1 09.03.20	and the avs are only paying him $6.5M
Artuma 09.03.20	"and the avs are only paying him $6.5M" dude should fire his agent and send him to the moon with that wicked wrister he has
Satellite 09.03.20	pretty sure he deliberately took less so his team would have more cap space.
Artuma 09.03.20	i'm sure that's what mcdavid and crosby did but mack wasn't half the player he is today when he signed that deal
Snake. 09.03.20	"pretty sure he deliberately took less so his team would have more cap space" he said he was gonna do that for his next contract
DominionMM1 09.04.20	arts right. when mack signed that deal he wasn’t producing like he has the last few years. it certainly wasn’t him taking a big discount he’s said he’ll take a discount but how sizable of a discount is open for interpretation; if he were to hit fa tomorrow he’d probably see offers in the $13-14M aav range at least
Artuma 09.04.20	we're down to THREE game sevens in the next two days. crazy excitement also thatcher demko is the man
claygurnz 09.04.20	Demko is the man (2)
bigweinerdon 09.04.20	stupid sexy demko
DominionMM1 09.04.20	this game is too much
Snake. 09.05.20	inb4 the flames give markstrom bobrovsky money
JokineAugustus 09.05.20	Sad the Avs couldn't finish the comeback. Damn posts and pk killed us.
JokineAugustus 09.05.20	Bolts over Knights is looking pretty good still.
peartnoy 09.05.20	A couple of big oof predictions haha but that's part of it. Bolts vs Knights in the final still very much alive though.
Artuma 09.07.20	"inb4 the flames give markstrom bobrovsky money" nah. they will give greiss a $3M+ per deal though just to be meh like talbot
Artuma 09.14.20	wtf is this dallas team
Artuma 09.18.20	time for some finals madness tb in 7
unclereich 09.18.20	dallas cmon.
Artuma 09.18.20	impossible to tell which dallas going to show up
SmashIsTheWay94 09.18.20	bolts in 6 but I've also picked against dallas in each of their series so far lol
unclereich 09.18.20	we all have to root for Dallas tho right? I mean who is a tb fan? maybe ballstothewall?
Snake. 09.18.20	if the stars win the cup we should name it the journeyman's cup khudobin pavelski bishop cogliano comeau etc.
unclereich 09.19.20	im rooting for them solely for Pavz
DominionMM1 09.19.20	can’t pull for the stars honestly. can’t cheer for a team from texas (especially fucking dallas)
Artuma 09.29.20	hey look, my prediction was right! once in a lifetime
Mister Twister 09.29.20	why do the blue jackets always have to get eliminated early by the best team in the east only time in the last four years we didn't get eliminated by the cup champs was when we got eliminated by the team that lost game 7 in the cup finals