Winrar
12.10.12 | 1- TDK
2- BB
3- TDKR
easy |
Ethics
12.10.12 | 1 - TDKR
2 - TDK
3 - BB |
ApexPredator
12.10.12 | Yea Idk how I'd rank them but at least there wasn't a bad female performance in TDKR unlike BB and TDK Nolan has gotten better at female casting but before inception it was all bad casting for his women except the prestige |
ILJ
12.10.12 | 321
how the shit could you put tdk last |
evilford
12.10.12 | 1- TDK
2- BB
3- TDKR
easy [2] |
menawati
12.10.12 | BB best |
Curse.
12.10.12 | I liked Katie Holmes as Rachel a ton more than Maggie Heroineyes |
evilford
12.10.12 | ^^^^^^^^^ |
menawati
12.10.12 | 1,3,2 |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.10.12 | Eh, Katie Holmes kind of sucked massive penis in Batman Begins imo |
Cipieron
12.10.12 | 1- TDK
2- BB
3- TDKR
easy [3] |
Chortles
12.10.12 | TDK
TDKR
BB |
evilford
12.10.12 | Katie was good I thought. Maggie was just annoying |
ApexPredator
12.10.12 | They both sucked but Katie Holmes is better to look at than Maggie plus that scream when joker dropped her from the building I can't help but laugh at that everytime |
Observer
12.10.12 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seBpXt8_6xs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLyoog562x4 |
ApexPredator
12.10.12 | In fact everyone in dark knight wasn't very good besides Heath and Aaron Eckhart. Christian bale was fucking bland in TDK. |
Curse.
12.10.12 | Gary Oldman was the best in the trilogy acting wise. Close second goes to Michael Caine |
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | TDKR
BB
TDK
They're all pretty bad, though |
ApexPredator
12.10.12 | Well those two are always good in anything they do |
MO
12.10.12 | TDK
BB
TDKR |
GnFnRs87
12.10.12 | TDK- not just for Heath Ledger's Joker which is easily one of the most creepily unhinged psychopaths ever constructed on scree, but for the message that comes through the character, the foreboding confrontation of the darkness in each of us and the secret desire for chaos and anarchy that can break even the best of people
TDKR- I'm a sucker for epic endings, even though it wasn't as well done as TDK it comes quite close and they managed to avoid comparisons with the Joker by constructing Bane as a very different villain with different motives
BB- I still really liked this, just not as much as the other two. I've never been crazy about origin stories but this is one of the better I've seen. Liam Neeson was a great basis on which to build the level of villain, which has been a strong point of the trilogy in my opinion, the standard of villains. |
toxin.
12.10.12 | TDK
BB
TDKR
TDK was pretty good, with a sweet villain. I did not like the Two-Face element, even though I know
for the sake of the grand story it was important (with overarching symbolism/themes/etc).it never
was as well written and imo that's what stops TDK from being a classic. 8.8/10
BB was a decent movie except for the fucking fact that vaporizing an entire city's water supply will
obviously vaporize people, who are kind of made of water and wouldn't be able to withstand that
regardless. 7/10
TDKR was messy and overwrought. 6.5/10 |
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | TDKR is awful, but at least it's funny. BB is pretty boring, but not offensively overdramatic like TDK. The acting is alright for the most part, but the writing, direction, and especially EDITING (which is complete garbage in all three) are all terrible |
MO
12.10.12 | "EDITING (which is complete garbage in all three)"
this so hard |
ILJ
12.10.12 | "BB was a decent movie except for the fucking fact that vaporizing an entire city's water supply will obviously vaporize people, who are kind of made of water and wouldn't be able to withstand that regardless"
movies like this are where you're supposed to use that whole suspension of disbelief thing. |
ApexPredator
12.10.12 | Yeah cause Spider-Man 3 had great editing.... |
evilford
12.10.12 | scarecrow ruled |
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | "Yeah cause Spider-Man 3 had great editing...."
Better than any of these three movies |
MeatSalad
12.10.12 | TDK>Begins>>>>TDKR |
Chortles
12.10.12 | u r hi if u think that crymmy |
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | well chorty i'm always 2 dam hi
call me king of the contrarians, but nothing well evvvver convince me that nolan's series is better than raimi's |
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | to be fair to batman begins, two face and bane both get horribly anticlimactic deaths as well |
Cygnatti
12.10.12 | spider man 3 was perfectly awful. |
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | nah |
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | i love spider-man 3
so i'll continue to fail, thanks |
Ignimbrite
12.10.12 | i enjoy going into every batman-related thread and reminding people multiple times that i don't like the movies |
LowStandards
12.10.12 | "EDITING (which is complete garbage in all three) are all terrible"
If only you even began to understand how wrong you are. You have no idea how much effort and time goes into editing and post processing. |
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | "i enjoy going into every batman-related thread and reminding people multiple times that i don't like the movies"
me too!!!! weird coincidence! |
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | "If only you even began to understand how wrong you are. You have no idea how much effort and time goes into editing and post processing."
just because it's time-consuming doesn't mean they didn't do a fucking awful job at it, moron. get higher standards |
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | it's pure sam raimi camp awesomeness |
TheSpirit
12.10.12 | Tdk
Tdkr
Bb |
evilford
12.10.12 | andcas we've argued about this before. It seems like you argue that the lack of physical threat and presence in Scarecrow's character basically = a lame, non-threatening villain. false. |
Trebor.
12.10.12 | Can we talk about movies that aren't already talked to death please |
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | "emo peter parker. the street scene. the dance scene. ugh!"
all are campy and awesome...
i mean i get how fans of spider-man would hate it
i love the campiness though, probably because i don't give two shits about the characters outside of the raimi trilogy |
LowStandards
12.10.12 | "just because it's time-consuming doesn't mean they didn't do a fucking awful job at it, moron. get higher standards"
That wasn't the point. The point is that these people put an absolutely ridiculous amount of effort into making this good over a damn extensive period of time, yet you simple-mindedly blow it off as "terrible"; you clearly haven't the first clue on what you're talking about.
But hey, just deflect and insult me like a pre-teen! That's always a great way to make a case.
|
Crymsonblaze
12.10.12 | "safety not guaranteed or troll hunters. pick one."
have not seen nor care to see either
"That wasn't the point. The point is that these people put an absolutely ridiculous amount of effort into making this good over a damn extensive period of time, yet you simple-mindedly blow it off as "terrible"; you clearly haven't the first clue on what you're talking about.
But hey, just deflect and insult me like a pre-teen! That's always a great way to make a case."
yeah, and if it was good, then i'd say it was good. the same goes for any movie. you can't just say: "but they worked so hard on it!!! everyone knows that the longer you work on something, the better it is!" sometimes it's true. sometimes shit editing is just shit editing. |
Deviant.
12.10.12 | "but other than that I didn't really care too much for the......./awkward fighting scenes/"
Have you not seen the awkward fight scenes in TDKR? |
Trebor.
12.10.12 | I really want to see Safety Not Guaranteed
|
LowStandards
12.11.12 | "yeah, and if it was good, then i'd say it was good. the same goes for any movie. you can't just say: "but they worked so hard on it!!! everyone knows that the longer you work on something, the better it is!" sometimes it's true. sometimes shit editing is just shit editing."
But that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not saying that more time spent equates to better editing. I'm saying that because you're doing nothing but spouting out a pretentious opinion. Anyone can make baseless claims on how "terrible" something is, yet you've not said a single thing that reinforces that at all. |
Curse.
12.11.12 | Guys, let's talk about the best movie of the summer, Dredd 3D |
Ignimbrite
12.11.12 | please stop arguing with him |
tiesthatbind
12.11.12 | TDK
BB
TDKR |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | "But that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not saying that more time spent equates to better editing. I'm saying that because you're doing nothing but spouting out a pretentious opinion. Anyone can make baseless claims on how "terrible" something is, yet you've not said a single thing that reinforces that at all."
minority /=/ pretentious
really? i need to reinforce something so blatantly awful?
okay.
the fights are choppy. in all three films, particularly begins. it abuses shakey cam and fast edits to the point where fights are just blurs. the chase sequences (mainly thinking of tdk and tdkr) have no pacing to them at all (let's not get into generic cop guys spouting horrible cliche one-liners in both films "we're sitting ducks", "that's not good!", "i didn't sign up for this!", etc), not to mention they're completely tensionless.
but the biggest offense is in tdkr. the editing just seems completely off. some examples: the head-crushing scene (or whatever the fuck was supposed to be happening there), the batman and bane sewer fight (which looked worse than an average power rangers fight), the incredibly clunky climax (especially bane's blink and miss it death scene).
it's terrible. |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | funny |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | junk |
Hyperion1001
12.11.12 | most other movies > nolans batman |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | first time i've ever agreed with you |
KeithStone582
12.11.12 | TDK
TDKR
BB
all amazing films. Stop having a different opinion crymson |
Gigglesdemon
12.11.12 | I would put Batman Begins as number one cuz it's the most "comic book-y." I like Dark Knight more than Rises because I was pissed off at how they portrayed Bane, who's my favorite Batman villain. I said once that The Dark Knight Trilogy is the comic book movie for people who don't like comic books.
|
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | i take my boot to those films
just kidding, i don't wear boots
but yeah i don't like them |
KeithStone582
12.11.12 | "I said once that The Dark Knight Trilogy is the comic book movie for people who don't like comic books."
Considering how many different visions there are of batman from different writers and artists, I really have to disagree. |
Havey
12.11.12 | TDKR
TDK
BB |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | well i hate comic books and i hate this trilogy |
KeithStone582
12.11.12 | "well i hate comic books and i hate this trilogy"
Check out Alan Moore |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | well i didn't like watchmen from what i've read of it either
comic books just aren't my thing |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | back to the future, easy. i see what you did there |
Gigglesdemon
12.11.12 | Keith, I say that because Nolan tries to ground it so hard in reality that some of the most comic booky aspects that kinda define characters are lost, like the Joker's randomness. In the Dark Knight, he's trying to prove a point, which is much more realistic than the Mad Clown who does terrible things for the lulz. He only does these things for fun. |
KeithStone582
12.11.12 | "well i didn't like watchmen from what i've read of it either
comic books just aren't my thing"
That's understandable. As long as you have seen the best and still don't like them then I can understand. I just don't like people who don't like comics who have never even fucking seen one. |
KeithStone582
12.11.12 | "Keith, I say that because Nolan tries to ground it so hard in reality that some of the most comic booky aspects that kinda define characters are lost, like the Joker's randomness. In the Dark Knight, he's trying to prove a point, which is much more realistic than the Mad Clown who does terrible things for the lulz. He only does these things for fun."
I see what you are saying, but Nolan really has just as much right to interpret these characters as much as anyone else. I think he puts a great "realistic" twist on them while still retaining what makes them "them" in the first place. |
Curse.
12.11.12 | "the watcmen is the best comic book movie ever made"
worst thing you've ever said |
RetroSpective
12.11.12 | TDK
TDKR
BB |
peaks40
12.11.12 | attaboy andcas |
Gigglesdemon
12.11.12 | Keith, I still enjoy the films, and I do think Nolan's interpretations are valid. I just prefer the more comic book-y feel of Batman Begins. Also, Mark Hamill's Joker is best Joker. |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | oh no comeback, celsius? |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | "Your answer was the comeback"
lol implying that bttf is a bad movie
you lose sir. good day |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | 22 m usa
asl? |
LowStandards
12.11.12 | "minority /=/ pretentious"
I think you need to google the word pretentious and try again.
"really? i need to reinforce something so blatantly awful?
okay."
I'm not sure how you think you can make a compelling argument with baseless claims, so, yes, you do.
"the fights are choppy. in all three films, particularly begins. it abuses shakey cam and fast edits to the point where fights are just blurs. the chase sequences (mainly thinking of tdk and tdkr) have no pacing to them at all (let's not get into generic cop guys spouting horrible cliche one-liners in both films "we're sitting ducks", "that's not good!", "i didn't sign up for this!", etc), not to mention they're completely tensionless."
I couldn't refute anything too hard on BB. I haven't seen that in a while, so I'll just give that to you. I understand you on the camera positioning/tracking/etc, but I've never seen the fights as hard to follow, let alone "just blurs." You would have to elaborate on the chase sequences. Those lines are just a poor choice of dialogue, not editing. I honestly don't see how they're tensionless at all.
(Not quoting the rest since it would take up too much space)
I would actually be inclined to agree with the portion about bane's death, though I thought the sewer confrontation was great. Regardless, I don't really see where you're going with this. You're just pointing out to me a bunch of vague examples with a scenes you dislike, not really doing much to comment on the editing. Do you just dislike Nolan and/or these films so much? |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | those are just examples that jumped out at me as bad editing (and i know the awful dialogue has nothing to do with editing, i was just going off on a tangent). there are more, i'm sure, but i'll be damned if i watch the movies again. and no, i don't like nolan's movies for the most part. i do like inception, though. and i haven't seen the prestige. |
LowStandards
12.11.12 | "those are just examples that jumped out at me as bad editing (and i know the awful dialogue has nothing to do with editing, i was just going off on a tangent). there are more, i'm sure, but i'll be damned if i watch the movies again. and no, i don't like nolan's movies for the most part. i do like inception, though. and i haven't seen the prestige."
I would really recommend putting a little more thought into what you say about editing. A lot of that isn't really directly involved with editing (save for the quick-cut and remap style in the fight scenes) honestly, and that definitely irks me, as I've been studying digital media for a while. I don't really like Inception, but I would recommend The Prestige. It's a good movie. Not spectacular or anything, but I enjoyed it. |
Sapient.
12.11.12 | TDKR
TDK
BB
|
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | "I would really recommend putting a little more thought into what you say about editing. A lot of that isn't really directly involved with editing (save for the quick-cut and remap style in the fight scenes) honestly, and that definitely irks me, as I've been studying digital media for a while."
Um yeah, other than the dialogue complaint, it's pretty much all editing. |
LowStandards
12.11.12 | "Um yeah, other than the dialogue complaint, it's pretty much all editing."
If you say so. |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | Yes. |
Emim
12.11.12 | tdk
bb=tdkr |
Cerbyrus
12.11.12 | 321 for sure |
Inferis
12.11.12 | 321 |
silentstar
12.11.12 | 321. Joker has to be one of the best villains recent superhero movies has seen. he was cruel in his own way and wasn't blinded by the whole "I want to conquer the world" bullshit. reminds me of Moriarty from Sherlock |
ApexPredator
12.11.12 | Watchmen is good but far from the best comic book movie it's too busy |
savagecabbage
12.11.12 | trying to get a reaction with your order. Nice.
321 |
ManintheBox
12.11.12 | TDKR
TDK
BB |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | If I had to choose a favourite I'd probably say TDKR, but I loved them all. Batman Begins has the atmosphere, TDK has the tension, TDKR has the emotion and epic scope. |
SitarHero
12.11.12 | 213
Ledger's Joker is one of the most compelling and charismatic cinematic villains of all time. TDK is one of the best movies of all time and easily the best of the trilogy.
BB was great as a superhero origin story. Better done than pretty much any other Superhero origin story ever, except perhaps Iron Man. Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman OWNED their roles.
I really wanted to like TDKR, but it fell kind of flat. Bane was good but not great. The fights between Bats and Bane were fairly disappointing and the suspension of disbelief required (even though it's a superhero story, it's the tone was trying to be realistic) was too great to ignore the plotholes. |
acorncheese
12.11.12 | i'll need more time to answer this properly.
saw all three in theaters. i'll rank how blown away i was by each one.
tdk
tdkr
bb
but i think the overall ranking is looking like:
tdkr
tdk
bb |
XingKing
12.11.12 | TDK > BB > vomit > dog shit > my grandmother nude > my grandmother nude eating dog shit > TDKR |
someguest
12.11.12 | what about your grandmother nude eating dog shit and smearing it across her floor dragging tits? |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | How you can love the first two and hate the third I really don't know |
XingKing
12.11.12 | Because the third is a monstrous piece of shit. Plot inconsistencies, awful characterization, horriblehorriblehorriblehorrible editing and sound editing. I could write an essay about how it sucked. |
RetroSpective
12.11.12 | aw come on xing it wasnt that bad |
SitarHero
12.11.12 | Haha! I kind of agree with Xing, but the standard by which bad is measured is Batman and Robin, and by that standard, TDKR is one of the best ever. |
XingKing
12.11.12 | It wasn't the worst thing ever but it was easily a 5/10 movie while the other two are solid 8.5-9's |
demigod!
12.11.12 | i loved the third but it was a bit stupid |
klap
12.11.12 | sin city destroys watchmen andcas. also personally think dark knight is better and also the dark knight rises was pretty terrible |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | "Because the third is a monstrous piece of shit. Plot inconsistencies, awful characterization, horriblehorriblehorriblehorrible editing and sound editing. I could write an essay about how it sucked.
but it was easily a 5/10 movie" |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | Its plot was probably more consistent than TDK's, it just wasn't as jam-packed so any missteps it did make were far more visible. I liked just about every character in TDKR and how they handled, they weren't as archetypal and clear-cut as TDK but nothing even approaching "awful." I hate ho-hum editing in movies (Quantum of Solace's almost ruined it for me) and didn't find TDKR's to be at all bad. It sounded great in a big theatre and pretty muddy in a small one, will have to see how it fares on DVD |
XingKing
12.11.12 | What's your point? A 50% is the equivalent of failure. You wouldn't even touch an album on Sputnik rated a 2.5 |
RiffOClock
12.11.12 | tdkr is a piece of shit movie |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | Fave superhero film is still Watchmen
Sin City and Batman sweet
Avengers and Iron Man ehh
Everything else has been pretty poor imo |
dathvada321
12.11.12 | TDK, TDKR, BB easy |
dathvada321
12.11.12 | "tdkr is a piece of shit movie"
no |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | That summary you gave sounds like it was an indefensible, totally unwatchable 1/10 mess. Yet your rating suggests it got as much right as it got wrong. I probably wouldn't approach an album that had a 2.5 average rating no, then again ratings on this site can be very misleading in either direction, so I'd probably base whether I bothered with it or not on how it was described rather than a number floating next to it |
XingKing
12.11.12 | That's tough to say. A 50% should really imply average, which in that case I'd give the movie a 3 or 4 out of ten. In this case, I am using 5/10 as below average with 6 being decent. |
YankeeDudel
12.11.12 | bane sounded fruity and cried |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | Exactly, 50% implies that is was alright, passable. "Monstrous piece of shit" implies 1 or a 2/10 |
XingKing
12.11.12 | Then I change my rating to a 3/10 to reflect your argument. I left more pissed off than entertained. |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | Being underwhelming or disappointing is one thing, being fucking terrible is another. People see those as interchangeable and they're not |
dathvada321
12.11.12 | "Because the third is a monstrous piece of shit. Plot inconsistencies, awful characterization, horriblehorriblehorriblehorrible editing and sound editing"
what movie were you watching? certainly not TDKR |
XingKing
12.11.12 | I'm not saying I was underwhelmed. I am saying it was terrible. As a piece of work, it was flat out bad. |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | I did notice flaws here and there, but didn't let them ruin the rest of the movie for me. At least an 8/10 in my book |
XingKing
12.11.12 | Opinions and stuff, man. |
XingKing
12.11.12 | Watch the DVD or bluray with headphones on and then tell me the sound editing is not atrocious. Someone deserves to be fired for that. |
oltnabrick
12.11.12 | 2
3
1
i think. idk they are all so great. |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | I really don't think it was terrible. Transformers was terrible. Batman and Robin was terrible. Troll 2 was fucking terrible. That's what terrible is to me |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | Yet to acquire the DVD or the Bluray, should do soon though. What exactly about the sound editing did you find so poor? |
Winrar
12.11.12 | TDKR was an average movie. There were many flaws yet people are too retarded to actually see what was done well. The hate bandwagon eludes me. |
oltnabrick
12.11.12 | The Man of Steel will probably get the same level of fanboyism that The Dark Knight series got. |
oltnabrick
12.11.12 | yeah. Superman has always sucked for the most part though. |
XingKing
12.11.12 | @Poly: You'll know the moment you hear it. |
Polyethylene
12.11.12 | People often are so blinded by the handful of flaws big movies *always* have that they dismiss the entire two or three hours of screen time as "shit", when what annoyed them might only have lasted thirty seconds (Indy 4 with the fridge, anyone?) |
Crymsonblaze
12.11.12 | Indy 4 is pretty fun
This was shit |
KSK1
12.11.12 | I don't understand why everyone thinks TDKR was good. I thought it was pretty bad honestly |
Funeralopolis
02.20.13 | dark knight best |