YetAnotherBrick: Finding Dory

YetAnotherBrick 06.27.16	it's the constantly trying to remember that makes us forget!
guitarded_chuck 06.27.16	wall-e's the best bruh
YetAnotherBrick 06.27.16	eh. it's great but for me, it doesn't quite have the life of their others. I'd say I like Wall-E better than Up and the first two Toy Stories, but the rest are a lot more entertaining imo
CamiloG 06.27.16	I also find it great but not excellent, finding memo was way better imo. But both of them don't come close at The Incredibles and Wall-e
guitarded_chuck 06.27.16	wall-e and the first two toy stories are prob my top 3
YetAnotherBrick 06.27.16	Finding Nemo has all the fish tank characters I suppose, and Nigel, and the sharks. but it's just sooooo close to sentimental. i guess this one is too, but it's more meaningful to me 'cause it's about a real problem no one in the movie really knows how to fix, whereas Nemo is just about finding what's lost. you could say this movie is about finding what's there
YetAnotherBrick 06.27.16	"wall-e and the first two toy stories are prob my top 3" nostalgia a factor there? just curious cuz watching the first Toy Story now is kinda like looking back in time haha. still brilliant, but damn Pixar has come so far since then
brainmelter 06.27.16	I saw it opening morning and it was super cute But Incredibles is my favorite Pixar movie still
YetAnotherBrick 06.27.16	i think that sells it a little short but yes, it's very cute. i like when Hank denies having three hearts hahaha
theNateman 06.27.16	In John Lasseter we trust
guitarded_chuck 06.27.16	"nostalgia a factor there? just curious cuz watching the first Toy Story now is kinda like looking back in time haha. still brilliant, but damn Pixar has come so far since then" so you only like new movies then? p sure if you polled people toy story would get voted best pixar
YetAnotherBrick 06.27.16	definitely. the definition of an over-achiever
YetAnotherBrick 06.27.16	"so you only like new movies then?" haha no, i'm just saying it's interesting that the first two Toy Stories are in your top three when since then they've made Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Inside Out, The Good Dinosaur, and Finding Dory. sometimes nostalgia is a factor, that's why i asked. if it's not you could've just said that
YetAnotherBrick 06.27.16	"p sure if you polled people toy story would get voted best pixar" well, we all know people, don't we? sorry man i wasn't trying to say you were wrong or something. just talking
guitarded_chuck 06.27.16	only one of those i might consider with those three is monsters inc the rest are basically tier 2 pixar, i didnt even like the good dinosaur it was boring im just talking too man its all just opinions, pixars p consistent so im sure people's opinions vary quite a bit
bloc 06.27.16	Yeah it was a great movie. I laughed every time Bailey did his echolocation lol
LotusFlower 06.27.16	I liked it but man the ending was safer than milk (is that how the saying goes?) when a door was open to conclude on an incredibly mature and amazing note and the tone of it was way more cartoony than the first which is a pretty noticeable stand out. But still, I liked it.
Cygnatti 06.27.16	toy story 1 is probs the best pixar one out there. most are quality stuff tho, interested to see this.
LotusFlower 06.27.16	Toy story 1 is best pixar movie, yeah. The Incredibles, Toy Story 2, Finding Nemo, Monsters Inc, Wall-E, and Up are their other good picks.
hal1ax 06.27.16	Up and toy story 1 are my fav Pixar ya. But I want to see this now! Been hearing good thangs
LotusFlower 06.27.16	its a good film, comedy is on point with quite a few hilarious running gags and baby dory is adorable enough to kill 30 grown men.
parksungjoon 06.27.16	hunky dory >
MistaCrave 06.27.16	Just saw this movie today, and I was not disappointed. It brought back more than a few nostalgic memories and had me just about in tears with how cute baby Dory was. And I lost my shit every time Bailey used his echolocation
LotusFlower 06.27.16	I personally liked the sea lions and Gerald the most
MistaCrave 06.27.16	Gerald was absolutely classic
bloc 06.27.16	Yeah Gerald was amazing. I do agree the ending with the truck driving was a bit too over the top.
LotusFlower 06.27.16	a bit? shit was completely ridiculous.
bloc 06.27.16	Well given the rest of the movie, just a bit haha
theNateman 06.27.16	the sea lions was the best part. I loved how unpredictable the whole movie was. Like you knew how it was going to end but you had no idea what path it'd take to get there I think that's the essence of Pixar. Take a cliche concept and take An unpredictable approach with it
LotusFlower 06.27.16	maybe in how situations play out, since there was no way in hell id see an octopus hijacking a truck, but as an overall storyline pixar gets more and more predictable as they keep on. I would honestly chuck 20 oscars at this movie if it had turned out Dory's parents were dead, but the take away would be she learned they still loved her (resolving her fear in the pip system) as seen by the trails and trails of sea shells and learning that Marlin and Nemo are her family now. "Tis a kids movie" as they say, but fuck, missed opportunity for what couldve been one of Pixar's greatest moments. And it wouldnt seem too out of the picture, multiple people ive talked to thought Dory was hallucinating her parents in the kelp field.
YetAnotherBrick 06.27.16	I suppose I could give the first Toy Story a fresh viewing but from what I remember it seemed like Pixar finding their legs to me. Every movie after it tops it for me except Up, and The Good Dinosaur I guess. And yeah clover I was kinda hoping her parents were actually dead too (sounds weird to say it like that haha)- that would've been some REAL realness. But I think the movie handled what happens the best way it could've. Was anyone else annoyed by Dory's parents?
LotusFlower 06.27.16	They're pretty obnoxious yeah, maybe another reason why I wish they were dead.
Froot 06.27.16	OP is legit selling me on the movie with the review, to be honest. I was really hesitant to see this after Monsters Uni was such a disappointment and the trailer itself looked we were covering the same ground as before, with the same characters and what have you. But if it's anything like you're describing, I might just catch it at my local multiplex either tomorrow or with my mum on Friday. Cheers for the recommendation.
OwMySnauze 06.27.16	Ellen is annoying
LotusFlower 06.27.16	Like I said, the comedy is supreme in this movie and it lends itself to some really emotional moments. Its way worth the watch.
Froot 06.27.16	Ellen is where every meme that gets even the slightest bit of traction goes to die. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LUX70mXcEE
bigboss00 06.28.16	Top 10 Pixar: 1.Toy Story 2.The incredibles 3.finding nemo 4.Inside out 5.toy story 3 6.toy story 2 7. Monsters inc 8.ratatouille 9.finding dory 10. Cars
LotusFlower 06.28.16	Remove 4, 5, and 10.
ScuroFantasma 06.28.16	Toy Story 3 was great
silentstar 06.28.16	when pixar's made movies like up/inside out/wall-e/incredibles, finding dory is way too far from being the best it was a good movie but lacks the mature audience appeal some of the aforementioned have (which is extremely difficult to do and deserves additional recognition for doing so)
LotusFlower 06.28.16	@Alc, the issue is the company, mostly Pixar, shifted their "vision" from using their resources to make ground breaking visual/storytelling to engineer the most profitable product regardless of quality (See: Cars and Frozen) and because Pixar gambled too hard with Cars and lost a fortune, they now have to bank in on Nostalgia by making sequels to their actually good movies. On the other hand, however, I thought Zootopia and this movie (despite its flaws) were some of the best from either studio in years, because despite the latter being very formulaic and safe story wise both movies have a large sense of writer presence. You can feel all the people involved in the production having fun with bringing both their worlds to life which you can see in the humor (especially some of the adult jokes, that nudist colony scene in Zootopia) and overall set designs and some story elements. They feel very lively and it makes me feel like if both companies started giving less of a fuck they could go back to making some absolutely incredible movies. Like the few years in the late 90s early 2000s where Disney was getting really experimental with the boundaries of "kids films" with stuff like Treasure Planet, Atlantis, Lilo and Stitch, Hunchback of Notre Dame, ect.
LotusFlower 06.28.16	also inside out is a horrible movie that only has jokes going for it.
YetAnotherBrick 06.28.16	Remember guys, Frozen isn't Pixar, that was just Disney. @silentstar I think this movie has a lot of mature audience appeal for people who pick up on everything it's saying about the brain, and what it means to be alive in general. I really think it's Pixar's deepest in that respect, besides Inside Out, but the symbolism there is a little obvious. Not even symbolism really at that point
LotusFlower 06.28.16	I mean, by law of nature it IS a furry movie more or less, and im 98% sure the movie has a few jokes aware of the audience it caters to. Hell, Disney even hired a PR company to reach out to furry communities to advertise the film no joke. However, the movie is a very lively and well executed film with an underlying political message that is a great introduction for children as a "race relations 101" course. And like I said, theres quite the significant production presence in the film than there is for shit like Monsters University or Frozen. You can feel the energy and passion that went into bringing the movie to life, it doesn't just feel like some corporate checklist being referenced to that they titled "Kids Movie". Its well worth a watch in my book.
LotusFlower 06.28.16	@Brick, Im just grouping Disney and Pixar together for the sake of argument. Since they both seemed to have shifted themselves towards pulling the same shit around the same time anyways.
ClintDangerous 06.28.16	finding a penny in my vinyl :)
Ovrot 06.28.16	It was alright. Al Bundy playing a octopus was the best part.
LotusFlower 06.28.16	Inside Out is very one dimensional and should not be praised for "showing the pyschw9iuadiuaw" or whatever. Especially when it has conflicting in-universe logic. To shamelessly steal from YMS, when the hockey island collapses in the film, Riley literally does not know how to play hockey anymore. She doesn't lose the "motivation" or lose her enthusiasm for hockey, she literally becomes a bumbling dip on the rink. Depression is more so losing your enthusiasm for the things you enjoyed involuntarily, and that is such a lonely, suffocating feeling. This movie barely has a sense of what its trying to showcase.
LotusFlower 06.28.16	I think the only things ive found that "get" what I feel are BoJack Horseman and Hyperbole and a Half's two entries on depression. Theyre both very comedic and hilarious, but at the same time they cut deep at way too many uncomfortable levels.
LotusFlower 06.28.16	Hyperbole and a Half is actually a blog ran by Allie Brosh where she talks about life experiences and stories with text and crudely drawn MS paint drawings (one of her drawings turned into the X ALL THE Y meme). Personally I'd read her story "The Year Kenny Loggins Ruined Christmas" or "The God Of Cake" to familiarize yourself with her work, its some of the funniest stuff ive read, I even bought her book a while back.
LotusFlower 06.28.16	On the topic of this movie, I have to say the part where Dory started apologizing to her parents about being such a hopeless forgetter made me tear up a bit. I can relate hard to that overwhelming feeling of just wanting to apologize to anyone, if it had turned out she was hallucinating her parents in that scene it wouldve absolutely killed me. themissedoppurtunitiespixarwhy
YetAnotherBrick 06.28.16	Yeah Toad you're prolly right with that about Inside Out. I think that's when that movie is at its most meaningful. Like when Bing-Bong can only respond to Sadness's sympathizing and none of Joy's attempts to cheer him up. It's kind of hard to care about Riley tho, when she's in such a typical family situation. Finding Dory had me laughing, crying or on the edge of my seat the whole time
LotusFlower 06.28.16	finding dory had me laughing for sure
Supercoolguy64 06.28.16	is hyperbole and a half still updated anymore?
LotusFlower 06.28.16	No update since the story about her dinosaur costume, but she DOES have a book coming out in October called Solutions and Other Problems that is supposed to be 100% original content.
LotusFlower 06.28.16	keep in mind the movie has issues, but its a fun movie that knows how to keep its script strong even if its stale. Ive seen it twice and I havent had any regrets, its the last Pixar movie ive enjoyed since Up.
YetAnotherBrick 06.28.16	^same here @clover what issues did you have with it besides the thing with her parents?
LotusFlower 06.28.16	For starters, I absolutely hate the tone of this film being so different from the first one. While the batshit crazy tone is the crux of the comedy, its just way too different from Finding Nemo that it gets kind of obnoxious in a "somethings amiss" kind of way. The original film, despite being about talking fish with human thinking and mannerisms, still felt like a realistically grounded film. While in this film everything is really just insane and the characters break the laws of the universe (Like hank being able to hear dory, who is under water inside of a coffee cup????) and yet... no one in movie notices? Again, this wouldnt of been an issue if it isnt such a polar attitude in comparison to the first one. The joke about Dory being alive and all of Mr. Ray's students sighing in disappointment is still a really out of place, mean spirited joke that doesn't make much sense. Hell, even other people in the theater gave the joke a really nervous laugh, thats how out of place it felt. There were way too many flashbacks to Dory as a child, even though kid dory is ADORABLE x100, it did get kind of tiring to see Dory get her way out of a situation by remembering things conveniently. Felt like it was used to write themselves out of corners. I also hate how Dory would be acting out what she was remembering too, especially when its inconsistent since sometimes she WOULDN'T be acting out her memories but at other times she would. Minor details here and there that are more nitpicks but could've had some polish, so I wont dive into any of them. This is what springs to mind, the second and third things are my biggest issues aside from the ending being way too safe and predictable for comfort.
Friday13th 06.28.16	I liked Inside Out the best of the latest Disney. Dory is good but a bit too similar to Nemo plot-wise and too many platitudes. Almost insinuates being logical is a bad thing.
LotusFlower 06.28.16	i think it was aiming more for being too cautious about everything and not taking the "chance" or "leap of fate" in the name of something you KNOW is right.
LotusFlower 06.28.16	Oh another issue I had is how one dimensional Marlin is. In the first movie his over hyper protective attitude made sense because he was affected by the death of his wife and was led into dangerous situations by Dory, but here he just seems like a grouchy dick who doesn't wnt to waste his time.
Friday13th 06.28.16	Exactly, that's what I was getting at. Marlin was sympathetic in Nemo and not ALWAYS shown wrong and apologizing for everything. Like sheesh make fun of the caring, sensible dads why don't you.
bloc 06.28.16	You guys are overananalyzing this shit. It's a fuckin animated movie jeez. Watch it, and forget about it in a few weeks like I do.
LotusFlower 06.28.16	^ dumb comment try again
silentstar 06.28.16	what bloc said
LotusFlower 06.28.16	^ also dumb comment try again
YetAnotherBrick 06.28.16	@clover those are really good points actually. when the kids were disappointed that Dory wasn't dead me and my gf just kinda looked at each other like, "what?" that does seem like a joke the writers would joke about around the table, but not actually put in the movie. it's especially out of place considering the safe route they took with other parts of the movie, i.e. the ending. you can't have her parents actually die, but you can joke about her dying? and i was never a fan of Marlin tbh, even when you look past his overprotectiveness, he's just kind of a dull character. like ugh i hate when Dory points out that Nemo was the one to cross the ocean first and Marlin says "i guess that's true, isn't it?" like, YEAH. IT IS. SO SHUT UP. lol yeah a lot of universe laws get broken in this one, it's fuckin madcap. i guess i just went with it cuz it had me laughing so hard haha @bloc so if it's animated, it's lesser art? come on man that's silly. we're just doing the same thing that everyone on this site does with music at some point
YetAnotherBrick 06.28.16	"also that movie just makes so much of the internal world it has" yes! i love the way they depict long-term memory storage. and the guys that go around deciding what to keep and what to get rid of. "presidents?" "keep Lincoln and the fat one." and the gum commercial! "sometimes we send that one up to headquarters for no reason!" lmao fuckin classic
LotusFlower 06.28.16	@Brick, like I said, the movie had enough charm otherwise that I didn't take as much of an issue with its problems unlike say... Inside Out or Frozen or something like wise. Also it isnt even an issue of art, you need to remember that Pixar (and to an extend, Disney) are both studios made up of adults who came there with ambitions and dreams to make the kind of movies they wanted to make as children, who were raised on the same movies that were made by generations of adults before. Their own influences affect the films they make in many different ways. It is completely fair to judge an "animated movie" or a "kids movie" like any other movie, trying to dismiss flaws because "its for kids" is fucking idiotic.
YetAnotherBrick 06.28.16	true that. the worst is when people won't even watch the movie because "it's for kids." they sit down and try but they can't get themselves to take it seriously. like come on -___-
bloc 06.28.16	"@bloc so if it's animated, it's lesser art? come on man that's silly. we're just doing the same thing that everyone on this site does with music at some point" It's definitely not a lesser art. I am not one to get attached to movies or tv shows, regardless of if they're animated or real. I literally watch them, and forget them the next week.
LotusFlower 06.28.16	thats ok but why say "You guys are overananalyzing this shit. It's a fuckin animated movie jeez." telling other people how they should enjoy things makes u look a tad bit a tool.
WatchItExplode 06.28.16	Top-Tier Pixar...good flick. I've exhausted all my thoughts on the subject, have fun boys.
silentstar 06.28.16	>telling other people how they should enjoy things makes u look a tad bit a tool. you do realize the irony in this statement ...? lol
LotusFlower 06.28.16	you do realize that I said "thats ok" to Bloc saying he just "literally watches them and forgets them" because its alright to do so, i said the problem is he is telling us that we are over analyzing shit and then told us to jsut watch it and forget it. I never once told bloc that he has to watch it how we do. do you not know how to comprehend sentences ...? lol
bloc 06.28.16	Just go back to talking about the movie
ScuroFantasma 06.29.16	Ice Age 5 is movie of the year anyway