KotoFtw: Writing Music Is Hard

taxidermist 03.17.12	Some of your influences are pretty rad dude. I'd like to hear what comes from it. Maybe some In Rainbows sounding type stuff, haha. It's a great fucking album.
Eko 03.17.12	if these are your influences you can't go wrong
ohfoxxxycole 03.17.12	*art is hard
MO 03.17.12	I don't know how my band mates do it
Spec 03.17.12	You have to be in the mood. It can't be forced.
taxidermist 03.17.12	Druuuuugs maaaaaaaan.
Ignimbrite 03.17.12	my penis is hard
CrackeTheSkull 03.17.12	Take the easy way out and start growling over some breakdowns.
Parallels 03.17.12	drugs, and music theory classes will probably help
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Ignimbrite 03.17.12	feeling creative today 000 00 000 00 0 01010 000 00 000
KotoFtw 03.17.12	I meant to put The Smashing Pumpkins, too. And yeah the reason I made this list was because I couldn't come up with anything cool, so I didn't want to force anything. Usually guitar parts and lyrics will pop into my head while I'm in the shower, then I'll get out and write them down or figure them out.
KotoFtw 03.17.12	It seems like the majority of the advise here is do drugs and make metalcore. I played drums in a genericore band for like 3 years, haha. Edit: I spelled advice the British way. Weird.
AsoTamaki 03.17.12	Well, if you do certain drugs and try making metalcore, it might turn into prog. You never know.
KotoFtw 03.17.12	I'm sure.
Puzzles 03.17.12	Get into drugs
Adabelle 03.17.12	"I spelled advice the British way" What. Advice = Noun Advise = Verb
SCREAMorphine 03.17.12	You've got some good stuff here, it's good to see you mentioned the Smashing Pumpkins. I've found it's better to become extremely tight as a band before you start trying to write music, a great way to do this is learn covers from your influences. It works dude.
Paracletus96 03.17.12	Rock is dead. Start making dubstep.
Puzzles 03.17.12	"You need drugs to enhance your imagination? are you THAT boring and generic?" It's not imagination you condescending prick, it's called inspiration. In saying that, I envy your ability to summon the creative mindset at your every will.
insomniac15 03.17.12	so Baseline, how's the debut album ? got any samples or tracks you'd like to share ?
Aids 03.17.12	you list some awesome albums as influences so I'm hoping you guys have the chops to pull off something cool. Mew is fucking awesome, one of my favourite bands. channel them O_O "I don't talk to atheist scums, I'm not in the mood to waste my time with the lowest human beings." shivers I'm not an atheist but my word.
anarchistfish 03.17.12	"I spelled advice the British way." huh what Adabelle said
MrGlass 03.17.12	get a good vocalist. it's kind of very important
MrGlass 03.17.12	*more important than a good bassist
SnazSpaz 03.17.12	I agree with Eko
Sirob 03.17.12	music part is easy, lyrics are hard
ChuckyTruant 03.17.12	Just keep playing and entry to find things that sound good no matter what
ChuckyTruant 03.17.12	Agreed with Sirob
Sirob 03.17.12	oh and make sure your vocalist is unique too. always helps a lot
jdennis31 03.17.12	I agree with drugs. Helped me alot. And mew is the shit
KotoFtw 03.17.12	I think the other guitarist and I are gonna split vocal duties, at least that's the plan for now. Thanks for all the encouraging words, everyone. And yeah I don't know what I was thinking with the British thing...
Trebor. 03.17.12	Writing lyrics is hard because it makes me feel gay and I don't want anybody to see them
twlight 03.17.12	lots of cool influences here. smoking weed really helps me write interesting and experimental sounding guitar riffs. But tapping into other emotions and truly enjoying playing instruments will make song-writing more natural.
twlight 03.17.12	Also, i've found that if you create a song as an instrumental first and then add lyrics afterwards, it usually makes for a more interesting song from a musical standpoint because when you initially wrote the song you were not relying on vocal lines or lyrics to make the song interesting, but rather cool rhythms and and catchy riffs. If want your band to be more focused around lyrical content and vocals then collaborating with the vocalist is essential. Usually the instrument players in the band will need to read and understand the vocals first in order to craft a sound and style that matches the feeling the lyrics are conveying.
Trebor. 03.17.12	Yeah I do vocals and lyrics when the music is finished
KotoFtw 03.18.12	For now I kind of just write a couple lines down and mess around with them, while also writing songs independently from that. Then I fit the lyrics over the guitar.
Fossegrim 03.18.12	Buy a music comp book. Write like crazy and sacrifice sleep, if you really want to take this a step further. Think of all the silly lyrics that exist. Think of the vocalists performing those lyrics in front of hundreds of people. But above all take writing slow, don't rush and you're bound to reach a point of success.
taxidermist 03.18.12	I think I might start writing lyrics for the hell of it, lol. Prob gonna suck ass at it.
Shuyin 03.18.12	trying to get a band going as well, but my guitar guy likes mostly metalcore and im a death metal dude. deathcore would be outta the question so i asked him if we could writte some dark ambient metalcore with some doom influences, we're definitelly gonna need keyboards as well, so far so good. most of our lyrics (written by me) are about religion or religious beliefs, my bro is handling the riffs, he goes from melodic to agressive tones and he can writte some sick stuff but right now he doesnt progress well, makes it too repetitive, we need more details on our notes when progressing the sound, etc.. hard stuff
PuddlesPuddles 03.18.12	If you do find a bassist who can sing, then you don't want him
ChuckyTruant 03.18.12	its all tricky Shuyin. I'm at the same place as your bro on guitar
Shuyin 03.18.12	i believe, but he's an extremely talented musician, you should see him throw some solos. while i doubt he can be considered as a damn good guitar player, if he works hard and keeps practicing im preety sure he will. besides the guy is fucking crazy
Puzzles 03.18.12	"lol you're definitely an atheist because your reply is close-minded as fuck, just like the first comment you posted. I don't talk to atheist scums, I'm not in the mood to waste my time with the lowest human beings." No I'm not an atheist you ignorant fuck, I'm highly spiritual and open minded - you're obviously a Catholic extremist, judging by the self-righteous, overly assertive sense of arrogance you possess. By the way, scum is singular, you fuck
Katechon 03.18.12	Can't tell if troll.
TheseModernThings 03.18.12	hey what a coincidence, my friend and i have been writing music as well the past few weeks and the music i brought to the table reminded him of Mineral, and he recently wrote a Mewithoutyou/Manchester Orchestra influenced song. We're taking a more pop-punk approach since in our opinion it's easier, in terms of overall songwriting, and hoping to get a 4-5 track EP by the summer. I'd love to hear what you get out of it. Also, I'd advise against doing drugs in order to write. It might sound like the greatest shit you've written but when you read it when it wears off it doesn't sound that great. You should study lyrics from bands and learn their writing process.
KotoFtw 03.18.12	@TheseModernThings I didn't plan on doing any drugs, not my thing really, haha. Your project sounds interesting as well.
Puzzles 03.18.12	drugs
Fortheloveofmusic 03.18.12	With these influences, I'm pretty sure I would love your band
Imperial 03.18.12	Writing is easy bro It's the not being lazy part that's hard.
Killerhit 03.18.12	Will be fun to hear this band of yours
KotoFtw 03.18.12	Hopefully we'll record some demos with a buddy of mine in the next 2 or 3 months.
Katechon 03.19.12	"a fag who pretends he's a female on the internet!" I think that's you, mate.