exitsense: Electroacoustic Music

exitsense 08.31.13	��
YankeeDudel 08.31.13	alot of this kind of shit bores me to tears, but some of it is really cool. which ones are the coolest?
exitsense 08.31.13	Well I like all 100 of these. This list isn't in any order; the ones I've written "highly recommended" or rated 4.5 or 5 are my favorites.
Havey 08.31.13	this is what i'm talking about if you want more artwork and less � all you have to do is use the titles as they show up on the ratings pages, so for example instead of "Hatali Atsalei (L'échange des yeux)" you'd use "Hatali Atsalei (L'Ã©change des yeux)"
treeqt. 08.31.13	"alot of this kind of shit bores me to tears, but some of it is really cool. which ones are the coolest?" same. it's either 1/5 lolbad or 5/5 ''''''''''''''''''' drool. will give this list a proper peek when my stomach allows me to concentrate
Cygnatti 08.31.13	someone needs to remind me to listen to this stuff like 5 years from now.
treeqt. 08.31.13	listen to 100 right now it makes your dik tingle
Havey 08.31.13	everything with marchetti is gold (you need to learn this in order to conquer the genre)
Cygnatti 08.31.13	actually been meaning to check out 32 because album art and title are funny
Calc 08.31.13	Recipe for a feature.
GiaNXGX 09.01.13	Los seres humanos no nacen para siempre el día en que sus madres los alumbran, sino que la vida los obliga a parirse a sí mismos una y otra vez.
MisterTornado 09.01.13	Fantastic gathering here Claudio. 23, 31, 32, 42, 98, and 100 are all great albums (fans of post-Confield era Autechre check out 98). Though aligning with the polarity of this type of music, I've had a hard time getting into 43, 55, and 62. Electroacoustic music warrants alot of amazing cover art (see 31, 32, 41, 43, 46, 50, 62, 64, 98, and 100); close ups of random inanimate objects, decayed buildings, enigmatic selfies, deviant typography, etc, which is what lured me into these depths in the first place. Personally I think anybody could find something to enjoy from this list, whether their into pop punk, twee pop, or brutal progressive slam death djentcore. I'm sick of the elitism that hovers around this type of music. As a whole it's certainly not for everybody, but it's varied enough that I believe there's at least one album out there for everybody; be it field recordings of distant train horns evoking a kind of embedded nostalgic nerve, percussive and sonic fuckery of the same caliber of metal and hardcore, or a couple lunar sine waves before bed.
GiaNXGX 09.01.13	i ♡ all of you
exitsense 09.01.13	:-) Slugabed is all about the cello, warm yet sorrowful... Crosshatches and Teatro Assente do demand a more meditative mood... I guess one thing about a lot of this music is that it does tend to be more about nuances and inventing more subtle or enigmatic forms of beauty/expression, so it's understandable that much of it may not appeal to everybody. But then there are the noises or sound collages that can assault you straightforwardly. 91 is really something to blast in speakers in car with friends. And then there are the styles which are more ambient, dreamy, pretty. Whatever the style is it's all really very fascinating to discover, at least for me.
Keyblade 09.01.13	Well damn, awesome list. If I ever wanna get into electroacoustic, I know where to go. Bookmarked.
Cygnatti 09.01.13	Nado mentioned pop punk. I is in.
MisterTornado 09.01.13	why doesnt this have a feature.
treeqt. 09.01.13	i'll take it to the forums
treeqt. 09.01.13	that one swede was faster than me
Havey 09.01.13	gian is italian m8
treeqt. 09.01.13	ok other swede : D
MisterTornado 09.01.13	this isn't just another hammy list where some atheist is pulling random experimental albums out their ass. THERE IS SINCERITY HERE. tragic.
mindleviticus 09.01.13	may have heard like 7 of these
Havey 09.01.13	did you check salmon run yet
Cygnatti 09.01.13	May have heard -3 of these.
MisterTornado 09.01.13	"May have heard -3 of these." that blackhole. i feel you.
mindleviticus 09.01.13	shit i haven't I'll get on that though
Cygnatti 09.01.13	once you go black, you don't go back tho. :/
adarkishman 09.01.13	lol
GiaNXGX 09.02.13	the beauty of events like this doesnt happen to be simply quantifiable for the better end.
Winesburgohio 09.02.13	fuck yes. bookmarked. 67 is my most listened-to album this year apparently
sideburndude 09.02.13	Wow this is a fantastic list
mindleviticus 09.02.13	1 is fantastic
MisterTornado 09.02.13	rip meatplow
MisterTornado 09.02.13	hit that long lunar note, and let it float
Winesburgohio 09.03.13	also while i'm here: what does electroacoustic mean, exactly? it seems to be a vague and sweeping umbrella-term that a whole bunch of 'arty/experimental/you-know-what-i-mean' stuff falls under but i have literally no idea what it entails and no-one's descriptions are very helpful plz respond
GiaNXGX 09.03.13	electro as in generative electronic sounds (analog or else/aforesaid) and acoustic as in concrete/physical actions (usually catalyzed -- through -- the electronic layer) that yield sonic products noted as "electro-acoustic". trivialties such as discernment arent adressed, neither are the examplory structures that are more likely to explain it. Loose, of course, as the existence of prepared instrumentation which may as well fuse both originary premises nullifies the need for a 'electro-acoustic' tag (people who actively listen to this genre take it iffy), so it is but I guess thats part of the reason there is eaI and onkyo / to distinguish the scenes/ distinct styles. For Improvisation: either or; Japanese aesthetic - European/North American/Spanish 'free-improvisers' • no-input mixing board (most used by toshimaru nakamura, taku unami) • samplers / sine wave generators (sachiko m, otomo yoshihide, noid) • prepared guitar (taku sugimoto, tetuzi akiyama, keith rowe) • turntables • misc • contact microphone • laptops • other prepared instrumentation (usually trumpets, clarinets, trombones or piano) • lots of pedals • malfunctionin radios • tape recorders most - if not everything else - is independent in stead of collaboration, or modern composers who partake on electroacoustic writing (a lot); musique-concrete may often appear to be electro-acoustic but not all of it is.
Cygnatti 09.03.13	Soooo glad someone else asked so I didn't have to.
Winesburgohio 09.03.13	Awesome, thanks Gian! I'm still a little bit in the dark (the name seems like a misnomer to me) but that totally clarified things somewhat - it also explains the eclecticism of the albums that fall under its classification :))))) and ha Cyg i have no problem being that guy ...now if anyone could tell me how to effectively use the '69' sexual position with a partner who's shorter than you that would be great
exitsense 09.03.13	wow, i typed a very long comment and pressed submit and it said "Your comment is too long". and i pressed back and my comment disappeared...
treeqt. 09.03.13	#sputnik
exitsense 09.03.13	"electro as in generative electronic sounds (analog or else/aforesaid)": synthesized electronics in and of themselves (when not alongside manipulated acoustic sound) are generally called electronic, or electronic tape music (since it was originally done with tapes) or elektronische music (the german school of electronics, which focused more on pure synthesized electronic than on recorded acoustic sound as with the french musique concrete). electroacoustic generally implies the manipulation of acoustic sound (as opposed to merely acoustic sound alongside electronic sound); manipulation meaning cutting up, speeding up, slowing down, reversing, layering, adding echo or feedback, placing sound through any filter which manipulates the sound, whether with tapes (as was originally done) or digitally. "musique-concrete may often appear to be electro-acoustic but not all of it is.": it's really just about how you use the term... if you look at the wikipedia article for musique concrete it says "a form of electroacoustic music" and i don't disagree with this. musique concrete is just a french term for their style. which involved using mostly "real-world" sound like environmental sound, noises of objects, people talking, etc. and manipulating that sound into collages or soundscapes with sound effects/cutting up (although the sound can be left untreated). and they also sometimes include sounds from instruments (which can be left untreated or also manipulated) and even a bit of synthesized electronics: but generally it's the german that focused more on pure electronic. polish composers it seems did not limit themselves and used electronic, electroacoustic, and untreated field recordings and sounds of instruments and all that. on the other hand, the RYM description for musique concrete does not mention the electroacoustic/tape/collage aspects of the style at all and only mentions that it relies "mostly on environmental/real-world sounds and noises" and "defies the common constraints and conventions music is associated with". yes, that last bit of course, that one more aspect of these styles of music is that they tend not to be about pitch or rhythm but about texture and abstraction. they dispense with traditional song/composition structure and create more collagey/soundscapey new structures. tape music, musique concrete, electroacoustic, elektronische, electronic (academic electronic) and sound collage basically all refer to the same kind of sound art but with each term having different implications, although only subtly different.
Cygnatti 09.03.13	yeah, I always copy before trying to submit my really long comments. don't usually deal with them that often anymore but it's still a force of habit.
Cygnatti 09.03.13	get that shit outta here, seriously.
exitsense 09.03.13	EAI on the other hand has its own style and different implications. because it's not post-production composition and is improvised, it doesn't involve much collage or cutting up. instead as gian said their improvisations use acoustic instruments "catalyzed through the electronic layer". or instruments like the list of examples he gave that allow the players to make noises in and of themselves with an EAI sound or allow players to manipulate the sound of their guitar or whatever instrument live. EAI, because it's improvised, also tends to use sounds which are sharper and more metallic, or sounds like clicking, more physical object-like sounds, not all that similar to the pure synthesis of elektronische or the use of field recordings or samples as in musique concrete. turntable music is sonically more like musique concrete except it is played using turntables and can be improvised. the records played basically act as samples and the player can lift the needle, slow down and speed up, etc. to make sound that is collagey or cut up. lots of possibilities here...
Cygnatti 09.03.13	oh my...
exitsense 09.03.13	one more thing i think i wanted to say -- that herbert distel, even though his music is not tagged as electroacoustic on rym, might as well be. i haven't bothered to vote it as so because: "musique concrete" already implies electroacoustic; the electroacoustic manipulations are less overt than in, say, bernard parmegiani (although i would argue that jed speare's manipulation is even less overt); other users who are knowledgeable on this type of music haven't bothered to vote electroacoustic, so i tend to dismiss the need to vote it as such because they didn't think it necessary either apparently. also on rym i tried voting "sound collage" for les 120 jours and several users voted it down. so apparently they think it's redundant to call it sound collage... but not redundant to call it electroacoustic alongside musique concrete...
treeqt. 09.03.13	what on here is similar to 91
exitsense 09.03.13	maybe check out Hong Chulki - Amplified WC? and glitch like Yasunao Tone
exitsense 09.03.13	88 might also be kind of similar... it's like a less quiet Good Morning Good Night.. more chaotic/fun like 91
exitsense 09.03.13	ok mentioning glitch just now reminded me that i wanted to say that fennesz - endless summer is sort of electroacoustic in the sense that it is a very textural album and does a lot of electroacoustic manipulation... but it is also much more melodic and blissful and closer to ambient music... it's basically a pop album disguised as an electroacoustic/glitch/experimental album
Cygnatti 09.03.13	"it's basically a pop album disguised as an electroacoustic/glitch/experimental album" omg, I'm so in.
exitsense 09.03.13	lmao also improvised music from japan, although daunting in length (10 discs), has so many styles, noisy and quiet, calm and chaotic, acoustic and electronic, jazzy and glitchy, that you're definitely going to find something to like in there, even if it's not all of it.
treeqt. 09.03.13	http://i.imgur.com/48GWuPf.jpg which one do i want : S
Topaz 09.03.13	nice 1
exitsense 09.03.13	i usually go with the one that is more on top (free, not in a queue) because i have to wait less.. odd that it doesn't mention the artist name in the tag but i'm sure it's the same album?? which is one track long.. also soulseek sometimes shows the length and bitrate of tracks incorrectly for some reason..
exitsense 09.03.13	i recommend downloading SoulseekQt btw
treeqt. 09.03.13	i know that it shows bitrate/length incorrectly but there is a pattern to that and the pattern and size of those don't correlate. those are definitely two different things. I think the second is the right one though, 271vbr makes sense and it really is 20 minutes long. that is qt btw ;)
liledman 09.03.13	Fantastic.
treeqt. 09.03.13	ryan is that matcha in your profile pic?
GiaNXGX 09.04.13	But what else... I still can't figure out how you manage to type so fast @fractured Post-Fennesz point of introductory departure for the unseasoned EAI/Onkyo fan Ferran Fages, Robin Hayward, Nikos Veliotis – Tables And Stairs Günter Müller & Toshimaru Nakamura - Tint Tilbury & Schmickler - Variety Cor Fuhler/Gert-Jan Prins - The Flirts Otomo Yoshihide (on tzadik)
treeqt. 09.04.13	"I still can't figure out how you manage to type so fast @fractured" http://10fastfingers.com/typing-test/english : D
Cygnatti 09.04.13	"Result Screenshot Words per minute (WPM) 81 Keystrokes 411 (406 / 5) Correct words 78 Wrong words 1 You are better than 94.16% of all users (position 7469 of 127999 - last 24 hours)" I bring shame upon my family.
treeqt. 09.04.13	Words per minute (WPM) 117 Keystrokes 607 (587 \| 20) Correct words 111 Wrong words 4 You are better than 99.47% of all users (position 675 of 128127 - last 24 hours) i fucking suck
Cygnatti 09.04.13	I don't think you suck, treeqt. :] tho that 94%, that's just an A-. better fix that or mah parents would get mad. :/
exitsense 09.04.13	Words per minute (WPM) 93 Keystrokes 467 (467 \| 0) Correct words 92 Wrong words 0 You are better than 97.13% of all users (position 3688 of 128603 - last 24 hours)
GiaNXGX 09.04.13	what you guys are unaware of is that i atm am not in possesion of a computer or laptop. last one i had got eaten by ccleaner software or, should i say malware? ugh
Cygnatti 09.04.13	yeah, my computer is broken. T.T using this ghetto laptop instead #thestruggleisreal
treeqt. 09.04.13	that fucking sucks im sorry for the both of you
Cygnatti 09.04.13	the funny thing is that we were trying so hard to fix the damn thing, but the only person in my house that can actually fix computers is really my older brother, but he had to leave to go to college, so we're just stuck here with a broken computer that was "in the process" of being fixed. and it won't even boot up. it'll turn on, but won't boot.
GiaNXGX 09.04.13	were the product results worth the time consumption
Cygnatti 09.04.13	probs not. -_-
GiaNXGX 09.04.13	That was for Claudio my computer does the same, it makes me upset though how to reanimate the decay of twenty thousand high-bitrate songs?
Winesburgohio 09.04.13	Claudio you're a beautiful man thank you so much for your elucidations! I think i get it. Quick question: vis-a-vis 'La Stazione' (an album we're both familiar with, you more so than me) - could you call that 'acousmatic' rather than 'electroacoustic' - as you say, the electroacoustic manipulations there are hard to detect. Also GIAN BB i'm going to reply to u on rym i just have to get my thoughts in cogent order :)))
Winesburgohio 09.04.13	ALSO: great thread gents (or ladies or Trans*folk, don't want to assume), it's been really informative! ALSO ALSO Gian u couldn't hook me up with 55 could you? Also on the lookout for that Jurg Frey that is so highly regarded
GiaNXGX 09.04.13	Intersectional Sex-Posi Feminism yay and sure.
Winesburgohio 09.04.13	haha fuck u kno me 2 well
exitsense 09.04.13	"acousmatic" i guess that's another word to mention. its meaning is now sort of obsolete as so much music is now heard at home through speakers or headphones as opposed to live in performance. but when tape recording was a new thing, it was a new experience for people to hear sounds that are played without the original source being recognized; i.e. you don't see the instrument or object playing the sound; you only hear it played from the tape and can only imagine where the sound might come from. that is what acousmatic means, and it was basically a concept for the earlier pioneers of tape composition to discuss. like i said i think using the term to describe a style is obsolete now, rather it is merely a concept to talk about with, say, a classical music performance in which there is a use of prerecorded sounds with the performance, so you hear sounds as the tape plays with the performance, and you don't see the instruments playing the sounds. acousmatic can be electroacoustic, it can be anything.
exitsense 09.04.13	i mean do we really know what geologist is using to make those swishy swirly sounds on merriweather post pavilion? besides a washing machine... you can consider these sounds acousmatic
liledman 09.04.13	@ilovetree Sure is. Best cup I ever had, in a stone garden somewhere north-east of Tokyo.
treeqt. 09.04.13	i wanna try some but it's soooo expensive
GiaNXGX 09.04.13	more so the teaware, i would say.
treeqt. 09.04.13	ye that too. might just buy me one of those matcha sets though. it's not like i need that money for anything else.
oltnabrick 09.04.13	Michael Prime - Fructification
liledman 09.05.13	Yeah it's super expensive, and apparently they keep the good stuff to themselves. In Aus it's about $20-30 for a little canister of 30g or something stupid. Meanwhile, excellent single-origin coffee beans are in plentiful supply at $12~/250g.
treeqt. 09.05.13	~20€/30g here
treeqt. 09.15.13	67 tho
Winesburgohio 09.15.13	yes yes yes 100 is really good too, last.fm recommended it to me because i listened to 67 so much and i was not disappointed
ethos 09.15.13	this is home
GiaNXGX 09.15.13	Reverberations: Tape & Electronic Music 1961-1970 is just as good, if not better than L'œuvre électronique imo
treeqt. 09.15.13	12 cd box set
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treeqt. 03.05.14	a god
Winesburgohio 03.06.14	~100th comment on a list penned and curated by iscarabaid~ 91 is quite thrilling
ShitsofRain 06.28.14	all good through here :D
Gestapo 06.15.15	sup
Gestapo 06.15.15	same
hal1ax 10.18.15	can anyone rec me some of the more accessible stuff on this list? so far I've only listened to 79 & 100 and i really like them both, especially the latter.
hal1ax 10.18.15	awesome. thx braj
treeqt. 10.18.15	15, 67, 73, 79, 100 are fairly accessible iirc
Ashen 10.18.15	hey dude also check out night shift - trespasser's guide to nowhere it's good for real
Cygnatti 10.18.15	whoa i neeeeeed 91
hal1ax 10.18.15	u guys are the best thx.
BandNewbac 10.18.15	some fairly good picks here
Relinquished 10.18.15	bookmarked
treeqt. 10.18.15	91 is fire emojis
Lord(e)Po)))ts 10.18.15	alternatively titled "100 reaaaally boring shitty albums"
qwe3 10.18.15	coooooool 67 is intriguing as fuck. musique concrete as a whole baffles me, i either love it or i cant get into it at all
ShitsofRain 10.18.15	musique concrete is the goat
Cygnatti 10.18.15	^that's generally how it goes, man.
qwe3 10.19.15	literally there are goat sounds in musique concrete
qwe3 10.19.15	i don't believe you!
CottonSalad 12.29.21	Great list. KEEP: 93 KILL: 26 Your turn.