Decapod: Chinese Toddler Run Over...

InFiction 10.18.11	Humanity's fucked.
Eulogize 10.18.11	What the fuck.
FruityCatOfDoom 10.18.11	Wow she got fucked up
omnipanzer 10.18.11	That's.... don't watch that.
MO 10.18.11	the world is a shitty place, you learned your daily lesson
FruityCatOfDoom 10.18.11	How are things like this still shocking to people with all the death and tradegy the show everyday on the news? and then they mix bullshit in. Notice the next news story on there is about Dancing With The Stars. Fuck this country and its media.
R6Rider 10.18.11	reminds me why I hate the majority of the human race
BlazeWilson 10.18.11	Goddammit. This is fucking ridiculous.
Zorak 10.18.11	FruityCatOfDoom, true that
BlazeWilson 10.18.11	For anyone who hasn't seen the video; http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/17/world/asia/china-toddler-hit-and-run/?hpt=wo_c2 I don't want to live on this planet.
Zorak 10.18.11	thats just sickening
foreverendeared 10.18.11	There's too many people in China for anyone to give a fuck.
Wolfhorde 10.18.11	^ Pretty much. I don't get why people see this as so horrible. People die, every day. And that's nothing new to humanity. (there probably only have been in a couple of days without war in the history of humanity) I see how it's uncivilized but it's nothing special. (in dick-speech: quit whining about the world being so horrible and whatnot)
KILL 10.18.11	rip
Ignimbrite 10.18.11	that's fucking awful. and I don't see why anyone wouldn't consider this decrepit. yeah, people die every day, and the world is a pretty messed up place: no one can deny this. however, the point here is not that someone died. the point is that humanity has deteriorated to the point where people will pass by a dying toddler without doing anything to help her, or even glancing her way. it's pretty abhorrent.
Zorak 10.18.11	it's just awful that she was a toddler and incapable of doing anything for herself, and people just walked by as if nothing happened. so quit being a dick wolf
FruityCatOfDoom 10.18.11	shes not dead
taylormemer 10.18.11	"but it's nothing special" Oh yes please do tell how something must be only worthy if it is SPECIAL.
Killerhit 10.18.11	and I don't see why anyone wouldn't consider this decrepit. yeah, people die every day, and the world is a pretty messed up place: no one can deny this. however, the point here is not that someone died. the point is that humanity has deteriorated to the point where people will pass by a dying toddler without doing anything to help her, or even glancing her way. it's pretty abhorrent.
Killerhit 10.18.11	Well, my sincerest apologies to her. Hope she's okay... up there.
BlazeWilson 10.18.11	She isn't dead. She's currently being taken care of in a hospital.
MO 10.18.11	"I don't get why people see this as so horrible. People die, every day." I guess its to do with the fact that a defenseless 2 year old got run over twice and no one did anything for 10 minutes. I know you can throw in kids dying all over the world from starving and such, but this is a different case imo.
foreverendeared 10.18.11	In intensive care is what they said, I think. I genuinely think this is because of how overpopulated the country of China is. I mean, the more people you're around every day, the more you don't have time for others. It sounds like a bullshit excuse (which it is), but I can guarantee the people ignoring the child were thinking along the lines of, "If I had time to stop and help everyone I passed that needed it, I'd have no time to get to work/school/home to my kids/time for myself/etc."
foxblood 10.18.11	it's not like china in general doesn't care, if they really didn't care they wouldn't be losing their shit over this video. can't imagine how someone could walk by and live with themselves though
Wolfhorde 10.18.11	"The point is that humanity has deteriorated to the point where people will pass by a dying toddler without doing anything to help her, or even glancing her way. it's pretty abhorrent. " So what? What makes this different than passing by old homeless people, that are about to starve? What makes this different than bombing innocents or denying a already dying person the right to be properly executed? What makes this different than people hitting, abusing, raping and killing their kids? All of which is pretty "usual". There is no real argument as to why this differs or is so horrible except for moral implications and the fact that it happened in public. Also, what forever said. You can't just rip things out of context, so considering China's overpopulation it makes sense that there's a probabilty for things like that to happen.
BlazeWilson 10.18.11	This is a quote from the article I read about it: "In recent years, assisting victims in traffic accidents or other emergency situations has become controversial in China. In an attempt to cover costly medical expenses, several senior citizens, injured in accidents that were their own fault, turned against people who helped them at the scene by suing the good Samaritans for compensation, according to state media." This is pretty fucking ridiculous.
taylormemer 10.18.11	@ forever, Well, that probably is a correlation, I heard it may also be due to the fact that there have been recent scammers (supposedly injured/frail) attempting to lure in passers by to then claim compensation or something stupid like that. But what's worse is how those people could not see past themselves. It's disgusting. People need to just fucking grow some balls and help each other out.
sniper 10.18.11	what makes this sickening isn't that even that a young girl died, because as has been mentioned people die every day. what makes it awful is the apathy of the other people. fucking disgusting.
thunder15 10.18.11	"oh no bystander effect is a thing :'( isn't that sad?"
BigHans 10.18.11	Refusing to watch this because it will make we want to fucking kill something if I do.
foreverendeared 10.18.11	"I heard it may also be due to the fact that there have been recent scammers (supposedly injured/frail) attempting to lure in passers by to then claim compensation or something stupid like that." Yeah they mentioned that in the video, but that doesn't really make sense in this context, does it? I mean, surely the people who aren't helping aren't thinking a 2 year old is going to sue them. Unless the child's parents could? I don't know, I'm not really sure how that works, I'm ignorant when it comes how the law works in these cases.
MO 10.18.11	wow I just watched the actual video...awful
omnipanzer 10.18.11	"How are things like this still shocking to people with all the death and tradegy the show everyday on the news? and then they mix bullshit in. Notice the next news story on there is about Dancing With The Stars. Fuck this country and its media." You need a blow job, then you need to pay less attention to the media js. ;^)
UPSMan 10.18.11	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
foreverendeared 10.18.11	Bystander effect is irrelevant in this case. It didn't happen in a crowd or even a crowded area. You can only see 1, maybe 2 people at any time in the video.
Decapod 10.18.11	Everyone should check out the website: pysih.com CRAZY shit. I had to watch Finding Nemo followed by a shot of scotch after reading some of the shit on that website.
theacademy 10.18.11	awww sounds cute post the link i love cute vids
UPSMan 10.18.11	There doesn't have to be big crowds of people for it to qualify as bystander effect and obviously you can't see lots of people at any one time as it's a video camera focused on a small area
bungy 10.18.11	Good point Wolf fuck that baby, in fact if I drove by I would've swerved into it
theacademy 10.18.11	lol wolf is like progmaster/sublimefan dumb... why doesn't he get credit for it tho?
foreverendeared 10.18.11	Fuck you Decapod, that website is fucking depressing as shit.
Trebor. 10.18.11	Don't read that bystander effect page, it's depressing as shit
Decapod 10.18.11	Fuck you Decapod, that website is fucking depressing as shit. Indeed it is.
Emim 10.18.11	"I don't get why people see this as so horrible. People die, every day. And that's nothing new to humanity." o_o o_O O_O
Megadeth 10.18.11	video is disgusting put me off my cp
Auschwitz 10.18.11	this doesnt surprise me.
foreverendeared 10.18.11	Man, I can't get over how horribly sickening some of those articles are.
omnipanzer 10.18.11	"I don't get why people see this as so horrible. People die, every day. And that's nothing new to humanity." Kids and animals, just not a fan. Adults usually have something to do with their situation.
Decapod 10.18.11	Man, I can't get over how horribly sickening some of those articles are. Some don't seem real right? Fucking nuts in this world, man.
Wolfhorde 10.18.11	It's not like it was simply criticizing how hypocriticial it is losing their shit over this, playing moralizers but probably in reality not being better themselves. Nooooo. I'd never do that. I was obviously saying this case is good, who gives a shit if a kid dies in public? Duh, people. Learn to read and stop ripping things out of context.
Auschwitz 10.18.11	i watched a video of one guy getting his head sawed off with a chainsaw and the next guy getting his head severed with a knife while listening to Decapitated.
omnipanzer 10.18.11	"It's not like it was simply criticizing how hypocriticial it is losing their shit over this, playing moralizers but probably in reality not being better themselves. " I am better, I can back that up with a lifetime guarantee.
Scoot 10.18.11	fuck, that's fucked up.
Wolfhorde 10.18.11	"I am better, I can back that up with a lifetime guarantee." As I said, I was only criticizing the moralizers - wich you weren't, old man.
omnipanzer 10.18.11	ahhh, sorry, I do that a lot. ;^)
bungy 10.18.11	These faggots sympathizing with severely injured toddlers get off your high horses idgaf
Slum 10.18.11	yeah saw that this weekend, fucked up.
Spec 10.18.11	Disgusting.
foreverendeared 10.18.11	lol bungy
taxidermist 10.18.11	Fucked up shit.
omnipanzer 10.18.11	lolungy
InAbsentia 10.18.11	I saw that a few days ago. She died yesterday, I think. Fucking disgusting.
Banion 10.18.11	Lol yeah let's talk about this all high and mighty as if it would never happen in North America, we're too civilized. Mean-while people have been trampled to death over sales at Walmart. One lady who was trampled was pregnant, but this is so much worse. :p Sure it's terrible and tragic but stuff like this happens ever day it's just not as publicized.
Ire 10.18.11	Good point Wolf fuck that baby, in fact if I drove by I would've swerved into it post of the month
Zorak 10.18.11	I lol'd @ bungy's post
Gmork89 10.19.11	"Lol yeah let's talk about this all high and mighty as if it would never happen in North America" Me and 2 other people stopped to help a lady who had broken down on the side of the road today after she was there less than 5 minutes, this little girl was bleeding to death in the middle of the road for 10 and your going to say she would have gotten the same treatment in the States, I don't think so.
Banion 10.19.11	Umm.., Sure this one time something terrible happened to that little girl. But in the States a crowd tore a door off its hinges and trampled a man to death injuring a pregnant women, no one was helping them, they were stepping on them. How is that not as bad? Not saying you wouldn't have helped just saying that as a whole North America can be just as cruel.
Gmork89 10.19.11	Because that was a mob of morons in a rush, not every day people casually passing by. And I agree it can be just as cruel, I didn't take personal offense, but I don't think this particular situation would have happened over here, at all.
pizzamachine 10.19.11	I cried.
someguest 10.19.11	there's still a billion and a half left, don't worry
Banion 10.19.11	Maybe not the exact same situation, but worse definitely has happened. I mean not only did they sit by and watch this pregnant woman get stepped on they helped out :p I don't think that because they were in a group that makes it any more excusable... Just my opinion though.
someguest 10.19.11	":How are things like this still shocking to people with all the death and tradegy the show everyday on the news? and then they mix bullshit in. Notice the next news story on there is about Dancing With The Stars. Fuck this country and its media." suck it up betty
Vesper 10.19.11	"I don't think this particular situation would have happened over here, at all." Probably the most famous instance of bystander effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
Gmork89 10.19.11	I don't think it does either, not at all. That is definitely just as bad if not worse, but I think the sympathy for a dying child would be taken into consideration a lot more over here, by those not in a greedy American shopping bloodlust anyway.
someguest 10.19.11	in America nobody helps because of the threat of being sued if they fuck up thanks a lot litigation
Gmork89 10.19.11	And your sadly right Somguest.
iFghtffyrdmns 10.19.11	holy fuck...
Eclecticist 10.19.11	- a two year old gets run over twice - a two year old is lying in a pool of blood - no one helps the two year old Summed up it's sad enough without imagining the coma-induced child probably hemorrhaging or convulsing while saturated by it's own blood before lying there completely limp from the conditions of it's wounds. I am sure the passer-byers acknowledged the body from a peripheral view and didn't delve into the possibility that the child may be in critical condition. Perhaps they didn't even recognize the child through it's disfigurement and rationalized it as roadkill instead of a human toddler. Who knows, speculation isn't an objective means of analyzing the phenomenon.
North0House2 10.19.11	Okay, so I dunno if this has been mentioned on this thread already, but I don't feel like reading through it. I want to give you my view of this. I've been to China, my sister is adopted from China, and my other sister is from Taiwan. I know a lot more about their laws than the average American, I like to believe... I don't know much, but I know enough. Basically, in China, if someone is responsible for the injury of another civilian, they are required (forced) to pay said person's medical bills for the rest of their life, even if the bills are not at all relevant to the original injury caused to the victim. Previous to this event, a man helped a woman who fell off of her balcony. The man was charged with responsibility of the event, and now he's paying her medical bills for the remainder of his existence. I believe it's very possible that the truck drivers feared taking on such a responsibility... Now, I don't know why the second truck driver did not miss the girl. Chinese drivers are insane (seriously, the traffic laws are oddly lax there, it's really scary driving around in China.) and there are so many pedestrians and bikers crammed into a small area, that I believe it's very possible the truck drivers didn't see her in time... Also, she may not have been helped due to the fact she is a girl, and they hold a very low amount of esteem in China... It's all very sad, and it's certainly still a terribly unfortunate and awful event. But, I don't think it was cruelty. The people in China are extremely, EXTREMELY, nice. They are far more caring than people here in America, or really anywhere else I've been. I doubt they'd just maim a kid and let them die. This, this is why Communism is bad, children.
someguest 10.19.11	yeah let's blame a political system for people walking by a bleeding individual you're fucking insane
Gmork89 10.19.11	This is why careless selfish people are bad. No excuse for not helping the kid, none at all.
North0House2 10.19.11	I stated what I believe the case was. Granted, I'd certainly help her out. But, caring for a child throughout their entire life is a huge responsibility if you're already scraping by...
someguest 10.19.11	that's why you dump her at a hospital and leave
Eclecticist 10.19.11	"This, this is why Communism is bad, children" Huh you were right until that part. 1. China is Socialist 2. Read a book, those laws have nothing to do with communism
someguest 10.19.11	"China is Socialist" lmfao
North0House2 10.19.11	"China is Socialist" Lol, are you being serious?
Eclecticist 10.19.11	No, I am like Bungy. The one witty guy in a gravely serious thread. Yea
FearThyEvil 10.19.11	This is soooo fucked up and it just pisses me off people can just walk by that. I hope she pulls through in the hospital.
North0House2 10.19.11	The world's a screwed up place, this is why I hate society...
Banion 10.19.11	I like the way no one in any news paper or article questions the mom who let her two year old wonder around streets by herself.
Banion 10.19.11	Oh and China has no "Good Samaritan" law, so of they helped and something went wrong they could have a serious lawsuit on their hands, so it kind of makes sense. Still not right but it's some sort of explanation.
Gmork89 10.19.11	I can't believe that crap, it makes me sad that people are dissuaded from helping each other. It still shouldn't have stopped anybody from acting but it is BS.
Banion 10.19.11	In 2006 a man helped a women in China who had fallen and she accused him of causing the fall, the judge ruled in her favor saying, "You wouldn't have helped her if you hadn't caused the fall".
Gmork89 10.19.11	Now that's logic if I have ever seen it, what a joke.
Pharoh 10.19.11	The driver and the bystanders didn't see her cause they're Asian
Wolfhorde 10.19.11	"It still shouldn't have stopped anybody from acting but it is BS. " And there you got your catch. It SHOULDN'T. Exact same thing when fights or attacks happen in public, but do most people do something? No, they don't. Sometimes understandably. There was a case here (where it's safe to say it's USUALLY pretty "safe" on the streets) where a person was attacked in broad daylight and when someone got in to help he got injured in a manner that could've killed him. I doubt that's rare tbh. (maybe not that extent of injury, but the example of this)
tiesthatbind 10.19.11	Bungy's posts in this thread are awesome
Decapod 10.19.11	I like the way no one in any news paper or article questions the mom who let her two year old wonder around streets by herself. ^ This. Where in the shit were the parents?! My GF has a 4 year old boy that lives with us, and I would NEVER allow him t wander the streets alone after dark. Ridiculous.
BlazeWilson 10.19.11	I read that the parents were tending to their shop or something, and they didn't notice that the child had gone outside.
BlazeWilson 10.19.11	Yeah, here's a direct quote from the article: "At the time of the accident, Wang (the father) was busy tending his shop while his wife was hanging laundry, and neither noticed their daughter had wandered outside, state media reported."
Gmork89 10.19.11	"And there you got your catch. It SHOULDN'T. Exact same thing when fights or attacks happen in public, but do most people do something?" This is where you get your catch. When someone see's a fight or beating there is a chance they will get injured, it comes across as a threat to themselves. There was absolutely no threat to anybody walking by this little girl, except of course the aforementioned suing, which I still don't see as a viable excuse.