Jethro42: Progland M3 | Sputnikmusic

Jethro42 03.05.22	Good match everyone! Vote ends saturday,march 12
bgillesp 03.05.22	I'm so happy I'm not up against Mezquita! Haven't jammed yet, but I assume I'm going to love it (I'll probably love both based on the descriptions though)
Jethro42 03.05.22	@bgillesp; From the start, your entry coped with Mezquita, and I changed my mind couple of time these days.
bgillesp 03.05.22	Many thanks for changing your mind.
Jethro42 03.05.22	Face offs are all uneasy!
bgillesp 03.05.22	I guess I got moved to Steel Mill then? Anyways, excited for this round. Will probably get on them Tuesday or Wednesday as my spring break starts
SharkTooth 03.05.22	This is going to be a very interesting matchup imo. From what I've read about Mezquita, it's very different from my record, so I'm really interested in seeing how people compare the two
Jethro42 03.06.22	Both albums are busy. Mesquita is more linear with same Spanish prog style all the way, and SBB is mor ecclectic, varied with winks to Spanish in places.
Donchivo 03.06.22	Wow, never have heard of neither band. The descriptions make me excited!!
bgillesp 03.06.22	Hey SharkTooth, what is you opinion of the bonus track inclusion for this competition? The youtube link ends in a bonus track and I just want to make sure that's what you intended. I like the track but the original closer is such an epic, so I'm not sure how to take it
SharkTooth 03.06.22	I did not intend that, and I think it might be a problematic I were to count it, since the sput page is about the album released in 1980, not the 2005 version that has the bonus track I'd like to say the bonus track counts, but is that really fair?
kalkwiese 03.06.22	Wow, these two rule so much! I feel like I like them more than the 4 albums before (on the first listen at least)
Jethro42 03.06.22	Bonus tracks usually don't count but they often go unnoticed. Only one bonus doesn't make a huge difference anyway. [Edit] Glad you enjoy, kalk!
bgillesp 03.06.22	I'll just go based on ignoring the bonus track then since I feel like I prefer it without it. The title track closer has such an epic guitar solo that I like being the ending of the album. [edit] 2 listens into SBB today. I like side 1 a good bit, but that title track full side 2 is amazing, maybe my favorite single song from the tourney this year so far.
hansoloshotfirst 03.07.22	yep, I think these two are the strongest records so far. Highly enjoyable match up for me.
SlothcoreSam 03.07.22	Is the 4th track off that SBB album supposed to end like that? I was hoping for another 20 minutes.
Jethro42 03.07.22	Just to tell you guys that the last 10 minutes of SBB is a bonus track (at least from youtube). Feel free to listen to it (it's an highlite) but in principle, it doesn't count as a song on the album.
SlothcoreSam 03.07.22	I listened to SBB on Spotify, which didn't have the bonus 10 minutes, but it just ended abruptly.
Jethro42 03.07.22	Yes but in youtube it finishes abruptely as well, but there is a classical music sampler to conclude. Not on spotify?
SlothcoreSam 03.07.22	Yeah, 5 seconds of classical music. I just wish the song kept on going, was a good album
Jethro42 03.07.22	If it leaves you on your appetite, listen to the ten minute bonus track on youtube. Amazing song which doesnt count though.
bgillesp 03.07.22	Bonus track was near the bottom of the songs from the YT link for me. I also agree I wish that guitar solo/final track could have had a bit more to it, but I still loved it. Frogg Cafe is still tops for me right now, but SBB is maybe 2 so far? Excited to try Mezquita soon
Jethro42 03.07.22	I'm surprised you haven't tried Mezquita yet, bgillesp.
SharkTooth 03.07.22	Yes, the album does close out like that, it's weird
e210013 03.07.22	Greetings to everyone. I'm back. I regret not have started at the beginning but finally I'm ready to it. It seems the tournament has been great, as usual, especially according with the votations. No weak knights, wich is great. About this round, and is usual, I'm very curious about it. I know already both bands but I never checked the albums. So, I'm going to listen both, beggining by the SBB album. Nice week to all of you, guys.
e210013 03.07.22	After a first listening, the SBB's album is a great album with a great fusion between symphonic and jazz/fusion with nice Spanish guitar works. I really love it. Nice that you brought me this great work Shark. Now, it's time to check the Mezquita's album.
e210013 03.07.22	After the first listening of the Mesquita's album, I confirm my first feeling. This is another great album with many influences of the Andalusian style, somehow in the same vein of their compatriots of Seville, Triana, but in a very different way, probably more symphonic. So, this seems to be another very tough journey.
Jethro42 03.07.22	Welcome back, e21, bro. I missed (we missed) your opinions and presence big time!
e210013 03.07.22	I'm very flattered, indeed. So, thanks for your compliment, bro. I'm here with all my heart. Cheers and thanks for this tournament. It's also amazing, as always, as happened in Friday's days. We'll see here with great comments about so many great albums of so many great bands.
Jethro42 03.07.22	It's a pleasure for me to be the host. It's not always easy, but I'm surrounded with people who make the experience enjoyable.
e210013 03.07.22	I'm sure and you can count on me.
Jethro42 03.07.22	Nice! Your presence is much appreciated. And I hope your vacation was all right.
e210013 03.07.22	Yes it was. It would have been even better if my spirit wasn't be disturbed with the sad and devastated news about another war in Europe. I really don't expected this. But, it's alright. We need to live with this and be strong.
Jethro42 03.07.22	I hope it won't expand, will calm down and soon go away.
e210013 03.07.22	Yeah, bro. I really hope the same.
Scheumke 03.07.22	I'm gonna be the first one in with the vote I see. Listened to them both three times (once a day) and I'm ready for it. SBB is a very nice find! The music is very tasteful with great melodies and a good mix between proggy widdlywiddly and slower emotional moments. I did feel like the vocals added very little to the whole and were (weirdly enough) best utilized on the title track with the 'nanana's'. The production was very good and the musicians where great in every respect. Mezquita is definitely the quirkier one. I really enjoyed the Andalucian vibes and the classical elements were well done. I also enjoyed the vocals and their passionate delivery. Unfortunately I have a very specific gripe with the album. I won't go into details because I don't want to spoil any enjoyment you guys are having, it's a very personal allergy that I don't want to spread haha. It did make it a lot harder to enjoy the record for me (even after repeated listens giving it time and really trying to get over said allergy), so unfortunately because of that: My vote goes to SSB.
Jethro42 03.07.22	SBB is festive jazz fusion with a funky touch and a Spanish dose. It’s often fast pace, but well balanced between keys and guitar patterns and deep melodies. Great guitar solos to suit it all. Mezquita is ethnic, sheer Spanish music. Homogeneous, repetitive, fast pace (breathless) and or linear most of the time. When you hear a section, you pretty much hear them all. Even the singer, while good, he offers no variation, and he sings rather loud. He sings his heart in the laid back passage near the end, particularly. I'm voting SBB. Definately deeper, more harmonious and pleasant to listen to. I think I'm not fond of traditional Spanish music.
Jethro42 03.07.22	2:0 Scheumke Jethro
Divaman 03.08.22	Just commenting to bookmark the page. I'll vote in the next day or two.
SharkTooth 03.08.22	Nice to see everyone's enjoying SBB, I highly recommend you guys check their back catalogue. Specifically Pamiec, ZE SłOWEM BIEGNę DO CIEBIE, and SBB (SLOVENIAN GIRLS) I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about Mezquita atm
e210013 03.08.22	Thanks for the info Shark. I'm going to put them on my list.
Donchivo 03.08.22	Haven't listened to mezquita yet But SBB might be my favorite of all participants thus far...
e210013 03.08.22	After the second listening of both albums, I keep my initial opinion. These are two great works. Sincerely I'm divided in this moment. I need some more spins to have my final decision. I hope it can be made in the next two days.
Divaman 03.08.22	I vote for Mezquita. The SBB has some tasty moments, but I've listened to it 4 times now, and some of it still bores me a little. I'm finding the Mezquita consistently exciting. And I think I just have an affinity for that kind of Spanish music.
Donchivo 03.08.22	I love spanish/latin music so I am uber stoked for checking out Mezquita tonight!
Jethro42 03.08.22	2:1 Scheumke Jethro Diva
zakalwe 03.08.22	Guitar on SBB wins it for me. SBB.
bgillesp 03.08.22	Woohoo! Spring break time for me! Gonna jam these more now that I have free time
Jethro42 03.08.22	3:1 Scheumke Jethro zak Diva
Jethro42 03.08.22	Good break time bgillesp!
Divaman 03.08.22	Diva vs. the World! Bring it on, you savages!
Divaman 03.08.22	Sorry, I got a bit over-excited there.
Jethro42 03.08.22	Mothra vs the world, LET'S PLAY! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpDcn6ox4kE
SharkTooth 03.08.22	Doom but it's Divaman fighting off the hordes who prefer SBB
SlothcoreSam 03.09.22	SBB for me. I thoroughly enjoyed the whole album, where as I liked about 25% of Mezquita, at times it got a bit too much, the vocals were a bit too samesy.
bgillesp 03.09.22	Mmmmmmm. This Mezquita is so nice.....
Friday13th 03.09.22	SBB’s album is one of the few I’ve already heard, but it’s been so long ago I’ll have to hear it again.
Jethro42 03.09.22	4:1 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth Diva
Divaman 03.09.22	Come join me, bgillesp. It's lonely here by myself.
bgillesp 03.09.22	Give me a couple days but the chances are high
Jethro42 03.09.22	Oh, how lonesome you are, Diva!
Divaman 03.10.22	(Singing:) Lonely! I'm Mr. Lonely!
bgillesp 03.10.22	Oof. After a couple more listens each today I’m actually leaning SBB right now. The third track bores me a bit but the rest is pretty top notch. Mezquita is so fun and just my style, but not the most impressive thing I’ve heard in that vein
Donchivo 03.10.22	Even thou SBB is awesome, I am heavily leaning towards Mezquita after the first couple of spins. Sounds pretty original to me, even thou less andalusian influenced than I had thought /hoped. Instrumental interplay, creativity, playfulness are top notch to me. @bgillesp: Wow, if there are similar things to Mezquita and even better: please shaaaare! ;)
hansoloshotfirst 03.10.22	I'm voting for Mezquita (shocker) but I also really loved SBB, so I am happy either way. @ Donchivo check Triana - El patio
e210013 03.10.22	About the Andalusian music I need to clarify one thing. The music of Mezquita is as Andalusian as the music of their compatriots Triana or of the British, Carmen. The difference is that those bands are influenced by different cultures. While Triana and Carmen are influenced by the flamenco, a culture that was brought by the Gypsis, a people with its origins in India, Mezquita is more influenced by the Muslim culture that was brought to the Iberian Peninsula by the Moors from the North Africa that arrived in the eighth century and stayed in Andalusia, mainly in Cordoba (where Triana belongs), till the fifteenth century. So, the music of Mezquita has more influences by the Arab culture and the music of Triana and Carmen has more influeces of the Gypsy culture, a strong carachteristic of Seville. So, these are the main differences with some common points, mainly due to the use of the acoustic Spanish guitar style by all of them.
e210013 03.10.22	So, it seems you're not more alone really, Diva. Lol.
Jethro42 03.10.22	@Donchivo, is that a vote? Good information, e21.
Divaman 03.10.22	Death to bgillesp.
Divaman 03.10.22	Unless, of course, he comes back to Mezquita.
Jethro42 03.10.22	4:2 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth Diva hansolo
Divaman 03.10.22	Thank God. I was sooooo lonely.
Jethro42 03.10.22	You're now both sooooo lonely.
Donchivo 03.10.22	@Jethro: not yet
Divaman 03.10.22	But we're lonely together.
SharkTooth 03.10.22	I like this plot that's developing over my chosen record
bgillesp 03.10.22	@Donchivo I 100% second the Triana rec but I prefer Hijos Del Agobio (my 2017 or 2018 rec for this comp). Also my Tarantula rec from last year could scratch that same itch a bit. Also not quite prog in the same sense but Morente and Lagartija Nick- Omega is super cool (just labeled Morente on this site)
Divaman 03.10.22	(Singing:) Now no one's knocked upon my door For a thousand years or more All made up and nowhere to go Welcome to this one man show So lonely, so lonely, So lonely So lonely, so lonely, So lonely
Divaman 03.10.22	Can you guys tell I'm posting from the 80's Music Cruise this week, heh heh?
bgillesp 03.10.22	Lol, having fun Diva? Jamming Mezquita rn and its continuing to get even more fun. toughest round yet for me
Jethro42 03.11.22	Not many votes so far. It seems wether people are waiting at the last minute or they are decidedly undecided.
SharkTooth 03.11.22	I'm hesitant to vote because my album's in the competition that being said I thoroughly enjoyed the Mezquita record
Jethro42 03.11.22	Feel free to vote for yours. You don't need to justify it. Self-voting is always legit and normal.
Mythodea 03.11.22	I mirror all your sentiments, guys. Pretty tough round. At first I was like, Mezquita hands down, it just grasped me and didn't let go for thirty minutes. SBB finally came around, with its Floydesque passages (and some Rush in there, don't know if you caught it) and nice, brooding synths. Don't know which one will prevail, although I do feel like Mezquita is more consistent
Mythodea 03.11.22	Also, welcome back e! Your prog knowledge is limitless, so your little trivia and name-dropping is always appreciated
Donchivo 03.11.22	Ok, two more spins of Mezquita and now it's a vote: Mezquita!! Sorry for intruding into your intimate joint loneliness, Diva & Han!! Actaully this was a hot matchup, my two favorite participants of the whole tournament thus far!
Donchivo 03.11.22	@bgillesp: Thanks a lot for the further suggestions, gotta look at those too! on a related note, this is a quite great Flamenco prog metal crossover I stumbled upon some years ago, it's a cover of a song by Flamenco band Ojos de Brujo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IuHsakuzcc
e210013 03.11.22	Sorry guys but I need to correct a sentence on my post about Andalusian music. That way it didn't make sence. When I wrote: "Mezquita is more influenced by the Muslim culture that was brought to the Iberian Peninsula by the Moors from the North Africa that arrived in the eighth century and stayed in Andalusia, mainly in Cordoba (where Tiana belongs)", I should have written: "Mezquita is more influenced by the Muslim culture that was brought to the Iberian Peninsula by the Moors from the North Africa that arrived in the eighth century and stayed in Andalusia, mainly in Cordoba (where Mezquita belongs)". Triana and somehow Carmen, due to its origins, belong to Seville. Now it's right and makes sence. About my vote, I'm divided but I'm going to vote today.
Divaman 03.11.22	Welcome aboard Donchivo!
Jethro42 03.11.22	@e21, Mythodea got kind words for you above.
Jethro42 03.11.22	4:3 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth Diva hansolo Donchivo
kalkwiese 03.11.22	Both records are incredibly fun, but I guess SBB just speaks to me a tiny bit more. That's where my vote goes.
Jethro42 03.11.22	5:3 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth kalk Diva hansolo Donchivo
bgillesp 03.11.22	Gonna listen once more each today and vote this evening. Gonna be sad to lose either of these gems
Jethro42 03.11.22	Some other match ups to come will be heartbreaking as well.
e210013 03.11.22	Thanks for your kind words Mythodea. Sorry, but I only saw your last comment now. I'm flatered, really.
e210013 03.11.22	After my usual 4 auditions of both albums, here is what I think. SBB - Memento Z Banalnym Tryptykiem: This is a great album, probably one of the best Polish prog albums of the 70's. I was very curious about it, but I never checked it before. It didn't let me down. It begins and ends with an interesting classical musical moment. The development of the album is excellent with nice keyboards and great guitar work. It has also some Spanish classical guitar moments very tasteful. It does't sound particularly strange and is very melodic. The performance of all players is magnificent. Mezquita - Recuerdos De Mi Tierra: This is another album that I was very curious too. As happen with some of you, despite I don't dislike of the Flamenco style with its guitar work and the claping hands so typical of it, I'm not the biggest fan. Anyway, In this case, I really like it. This is an album that sounds to me a bit different. Here, we have a proggier and a more symphonic sound. Here, somehow the Flamenco was replaced by clear influences of the Arab music. That can also be seen on the vocals. "Memento Z Banalnym Tryptykiem" rated with 4.0. "Recuerdos De Mi Tierra" rated with 4.0. Both albums are very different but excellent. I always was a bit divided between both. I really like both. We are in presence of very different cultures and musical influences. The only common point is the use of the classical guitar. So, I won't be sad with the victory of any of them. Both deserved that. But, since I need to decide, I choose Mezquita - Recuerdos De Mi Tierra. It seems to me a more cohesive work.
Jethro42 03.11.22	Good analysis bro, as usual.
Jethro42 03.11.22	5:4 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth kalk Diva hansolo Donchivo e21
bgillesp 03.12.22	Man if we could get rid of track 3 from SBB, it would be 4.5 material for sure for me. Not a bad song necessarily, but I dont think it fits very well.
Jethro42 03.12.22	Thanks for your bump for M2, bgillesp. We don't have many votes so far.
bgillesp 03.12.22	I'll go ahead and put mine in. After much difficult deliberation, my vote has to go to Mezquita by the slimmest of margins. SBB has higher highs, but also lower lows. Mezquita is such consistent fun all the way through and at the moment I am valuing that slightly more. The guitar solo to end SBB is immaculate and I love the guitar tone on it's first track. Mezquita on the other hand keeps the energy high and has a lot of variety in addition to the songs being great individually.
bgillesp 03.12.22	I cannot promise Mezquita will remain above SBB in my final ranking, but it is there for now. Really enjoyed both albums a lot
Divaman 03.12.22	Long life to bgillesp.
SharkTooth 03.12.22	we need to shoutbox the people not voting yet I'll do it
Jethro42 03.12.22	I personally like track 3 from SBB. it sounds like a good Brand X track. SBB is more of my style. Its bonus track is very good too. Finally, I don't mind including bonuses.
Jethro42 03.12.22	Thank you, Shark!
Jethro42 03.12.22	5:5 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth kalk Diva hansolo Donchivo e21 bgill
Jethro42 03.12.22	@Shark, we can wait until tomorrow as well.
SharkTooth 03.12.22	I already messaged, but only the users who haven't even commented here yet (Also goddammit it's a tie, I do not want to be the tiebreaker again)
Jethro42 03.12.22	Thanks a lot Shark! I hope you're not gonna be the tiebreaker, it's too ungrateful... We got; SirLord Sabrutin Zig wham porc bnelso
porcupinetheater 03.12.22	Jaja sorry have been in the middle of final semester finals Listened to both records a couple times while working and don’t feel like I actually proper heard them enough to say one way or the other yet
wham49 03.12.22	well I'm going with 1 pretty clearly sorry busy at school this week and next week, mid semester meetings and grading
Scheumke 03.12.22	@Shark don't be the last one to vote then ;)
Zig 03.12.22	my vote goes to SBB, mostly because it's more jazzy. I think Mezquita draws too much inspiration from Spanish folk.
Sabrutin 03.12.22	Tough match but I will hand it to SBB too for the scope and the guitarwork
TwigTW 03.12.22	I like the Pink Floyd flourishes on SBB, especially in the final rave-up, but Mezquita's flamenco influences won me over... My vote goes to Mezquita.
Jethro42 03.12.22	@Scheumke, I thought the same :)
Jethro42 03.12.22	8:6 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth kalk wham Zig Sab Diva hansolo Donchivo e21 bgill Twig
bgillesp 03.12.22	Another nail biter
MrSirLordGentleman 03.12.22	I thought Mezquita would take my vote since I love spanish flavored prog like Triana, and while it is pretty cool, I just love SBB's guitar. Wether it is electric or acoustic, a riff or a solo, it is varied and memorable every time My vote goes to SBB
Jethro42 03.12.22	I'll give couple of hours, and I'm gonna prepare M4 slowly.
Jethro42 03.12.22	9:6 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth kalk wham Zig Sab SirLord Diva hansolo Donchivo e21 bgill Twig
bgillesp 03.12.22	Friday, porc, bnelso, and Sharktooth would all have to go with Mezquita to flip it now, but there’s still hope
Jethro42 03.12.22	Mythodea is missing as well.
Friday13th 03.12.22	Best match up yet! This one is a toss up. Both are fairly original and memorable. SBB is fantastic all around, but I think Mezquita inched over it for me with its high energy, start-stop take on Andalusian Rock. The softer moments are like Triana but the majority is high octane flamenco riffage that slays. My vote goes to Mezquita but just by a hair.
Jethro42 03.12.22	9:7 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth kalk wham Zig Sab SirLord Diva hansolo Donchivo e21 bgill Twig Friday
Mythodea 03.12.22	Ι think I'm not too late to vote! I choose Mezquita(4). I think there are way more things Ilike on that one than SBB (3.5), and the folk element was very pleasing. SBB had a safer sound, so even if it had some stunning moments, and the sound was way better than the rough Mezquita, I think in the end it falls back. This was indeed an amazing match!
SharkTooth 03.12.22	Well, I guess I'll vote now to avoid the burden of tiebreaking, it's 1. Mezquita's fantastic but SBB is just more my cuppa tea
Jethro42 03.12.22	Everything could happen still. Let's continue the suspense for a while.
Jethro42 03.12.22	10:8 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth kalk wham Zig Sab SirLord Shark Diva hansolo Donchivo e21 bgill Twig Friday Myth
Jethro42 03.12.22	SBB most likely wins. In waiting, I made M4 already.
porcupinetheater 03.12.22	Yeah count me in on SBB too. Both are a little bombastic for my taste, but the vox on Mezquita are just so overwrought I can't get into it. Instrumentals on both are pretty cool, but a bunch of moments on Mezquita when the vocals come in that they bury the instruments in the mix and call even more attention to themselves
Jethro42 03.12.22	Spanish music is apparently not your thing either, isn't it, porc? Okay I'm calling it for SBB.
Jethro42 03.12.22	11:8 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth kalk wham Zig Sab SirLord Shark porc Diva hansolo Donchivo e21 bgill Twig Friday Myth
Jethro42 03.12.22	See you to the next step!
porcupinetheater 03.12.22	I like a lot of acoustic Spanish guitar music, but I guess something about it feels a little more sterile applied to the more complex prog arrangements? Would have to parse it a little more to say more coherently what’s throwing me off Other than prog vocals striking again lol
Jethro42 03.12.22	You're clear enough, porc. Spanish music is often agitated, over the top and repetitive, but it's just me. This actual album is rather average to me.
bnelso55 03.13.22	One more SBB. Two great candidates. I just found myself more excited to come back to Memento... for whatever reason. Great round!
Jethro42 03.13.22	12:8 Scheumke Jethro zak Sloth kalk wham Zig Sab SirLord Shark porc bnelso Diva hansolo Donchivo e21 bgill Twig Friday Myth @bnelso; May the best win!
SharkTooth 03.13.22	Glad to see people really liked SBB, I just wish to remind everyone once again that if you enjoyed 1, they have equally underappreciated records in their back catalogue(specifically Pamiec, ZE SłOWEM BIEGNę DO CIEBIE, and SBB (SLOVENIAN GIRLS))
Donchivo 03.14.22	Really sad to see Mezquita go. So far the only participant of the contest where I madea note to self to acquire a physical copy. That said, SBB is awesome and very worthy of advancing, thanks Shark & Han for introducing these!
e210013 03.14.22	Yeah, it's a pity that we lose Mezquita. But SBB is a great winner.
parksungjoon 04.16.22	woah cheers for all the ratings on mezquita
parksungjoon 04.16.22	is hansoloshotfirst from spain? seems like that whole scene is obscure af on sput
hansoloshotfirst 04.17.22	nah, I'm german though I actually had family down in southern Spain (Granada to be precise). But I simply stumbled upon the album on youtube a couple of years ago.
parksungjoon 04.17.22	woah cheers for the response yea was just wondering about that cool either way m/