User
Reviews 14 Approval 97%
Soundoffs 78 News Articles 11 Band Edits + Tags 447 Album Edits 1,263
Album Ratings 10126 Objectivity 80%
Last Active 12-26-21 8:29 pm Joined 09-17-07
Review Comments 8,012
| Targaryen Rulers Ranked
It might be concerning to some, but I probably know more of Targaryen kings and princes than I do of United States presidents. There are a few things that determine ranking here, namely: the character of the ruler in question (e.g. how bad-ass they are), the storytelling capacity of their reign, or simply how successful they are as a ruler. Non-essential spoilers from the five books might pop up. | 1 | Aegon I, the Conqueror
Who else would be number one? Aegon is a total bad-ass. While everyone else of his lineage was concerned with reclaiming Essos after the Doom, this motherfucker decided to conquer an entire continent with his sister-wives and three dragons. He conquered six of the seven kingdoms of Westeros, and established the greatest dynasty to ever reign. The blades of those he had slain in numerous battles comprise the Iron Throne. Awesome. | 2 | Aerys II, the Mad King
Aerys II is the ultimate villain, and overall one of the most fascinating characters in the Song of Ice and Fire series. That's a lot to be said considering he never makes an actual appearance in the books. The effect that his reign had on the world probably equals that of Aegon the Conqueror, albeit of a completely opposite distinction. He was largely responsible for the fall of the greatest dynasty to ever reign, but also the greatest story to ever be told. | 3 | Aegon V, the Unlikely
Also known as Egg from the Dunk and Egg prequel stories. In the context of the histories, Aegon V was not the most successful ruler. He was, however, probably the most likeable and "human" Targaryen king to ever lead. He was responsible for sending Bloodraven, and Maester Aemon, to the wall, and had a huge part in quelling the Blackfyre rebellions. Also notable for not partaking in Targaryen incestual traditions. In the context of the Dunk and Egg stories, he's a bit like a male Arya Stark, but without the unrelenting heartbreak and vengeance motive. | 4 | Baelor I, the Blessed
Batshit Jesus Targaryen is just a cool dude. A lot of alternate histories have their staple pious zealot character, but as far as they are concerned, Baelor ranks pretty high up there. Baelor repaired a good portion of the damage from the Dornish rebellions, and overall seemed to have a positive impact on Westerosi society. The most interesting thing about him was that he was clearly a raving lunatic, and I always wonder what else there is to his character, that isn't told in the histories. There are hues of an evil interior. | 5 | Jaehaerys I, the Conciliator
Arguably the most successful king to ever reign, Jaehaerys was responsible for uniting Westeros under a single law system (as opposed to letting each kingdom govern separately, as under Aegon I), and keeping peace for over fifty years. Given what we know of this series and how long kings tend to live, a fifty-plus year reign is absolutely unfathomable, let alone one ruled under uninterrupted peace. While not entirely exciting, Jaehaerys' influence on Westeros as a whole is unrivaled. | 6 | Aegon IV, the Unworthy
This guy right here is mostly here for the storytelling potential of his reign. As a person and as a ruler, Aegon IV is an entirely deplorable and disgusting human being. He is single-handedly responsible for the Blackfyre Rebellions that haunted Westeros for decades, by legitimizing his nearly infinitely-numbered bastards. His only reputation of importance was that he was a glutton, regarding women and all other bodily pleasures. He claimed to have bedded over nine-hundred women, nine of which he came to love. He is also known for fathering three bastards who have utmost importance in the histories: Daemon Blackfyre, Aegor Rivers (Bittersteel), and Brynden Rivers (Bloodraven); Bloodraven is one of my personal favorite characters in the series, and despite being over 125 years old, he is still alive beyond the wall. He played a huge part in several kings' reign, before being banished to the Wall. | 7 | Rhaenyra, the Realm's Delight
She never officially became a queen, but I personally just love Rhaenyra, and think she's a strong, sexy bitch. She's everything that I wish Daenerys could be; unwavering in her desire to obtain her birthright, plotting and conniving, and she truly danced with dragons. Also notable for her romance with Daemon Targaryen, who along with his dragon, was a total bad-ass as well. | 8 | Maegor I, the Cruel
Maegor I is the original evil ruler of the Song of Ice and Fire series. Of course, the rumors that his mother and one of Aegon I's wives, Visenya, killed his brother so that he may reign is a juicy story in itself. Maegor was most notable for trying to destroy the impact of religion in Westeros. His reign was distracted by these ideas of destroying the religious pillars and putting an end to the Faith Militant (the group that Cersei recently re-armed). One positive impact of his reign was the completed construction of the Red Keep (the primary fortress at King's Landing). | 9 | Daeron II, the Good
Daeron II was in the unenviable position of restoring Westeros after Aegon IV nearly decimated it with his legitimization of his bastards. Daeron did an admirable job, while also quelling the Blackfyre rebellions that emerged as a result of Aegon IV's final proclamation. Daeron II definitely seems like a cool dude to throw back some Arbor Red with. The Blackfyre rebellion would likely have succeeded were it not for Brynden Rivers' (AKA Bloodraven) miraculous performance in battle. Daeron reigned for quite a long time at twenty-five years, and is easily one of the most successful kings in the history of the realm. | 10 | Daeron I, the Young
Daeron I's reign is significant for finally bringing Dorne under Targaryen rule at a young age, as ever since Aegon's conquest, Targaryen kings have tried, and failed, to conquer Dorne. Though there would be multiple Dornish rebellions to come, that did not stop the impact of Daeron I's short tenure. | 11 | Aegon II
Aegon II's reign is marked by the Dance of the Dragons, the bloodiest war ever conceived by men. The dance was a war fraught with deceit and treachery, made worse because the warring sides were of the same family. It is a reign unique for being a time of civil war in this history. As far as entertainment goes, this seems like one of the most exciting periods of history, as there was battle upon battle of merciless war, complete with tens of dragons claiming the skies. Aegon II succeeding in bringing an end to the Dance, and in preventing a complete fracture of the realm. Good job, guy. | 12 | Daemon Blackfyre, the Black Dragon
Daemon, like Rhaenyra, was not officially king of Westeros, but the story of the Blackfyres, and whether or not they still exist in secret, is one of my favorites. Daemon was the bastard son of Aegon the Unworthy, and was given Blackfyre, the sword of Aegon the Conqueror. This decision nearly crippled the realm in its implications, and caused decades of strife initiated by Daemon's rebellion. He was unsuccessful in claiming the throne, however. | 13 | Jaehaerys II
Jaehaerys II's reign is notable for finally putting an end to the highly unsuccessful Blackfyre rebellions, and returning the realm to peace. Like Daeron I, he had a short but successful tenure. | 14 | Aegon III, the Unlucky
Aegon III was a boy king, too young to govern on his own. His reign was handled primarily by a wealth of regents, the most notable of them being Corlys Velaryon, the Sea Snake. It was a time of chaos and political subterfuge, not unlike the current state of affairs in the novels. This tumult was the final product of the Dance of Dragons. Regaining peace was a struggle, but was mostly attained. Aegon III's reign was also the era of the last dragon, until Daenerys' were born nearly 150 years later. | 15 | Viserys I
Viserys I's reign is culpable for planting the seeds of the Dance of Dragons. His bitter love-hate relationship with brother Daemon Targaryen was a constant thorn in the side of his rule. It was a time of political indecisiveness fraught with intrigue and threat of rebellion, but despite all of that, it was one mostly woven with peace; this was certainly aided by Jaehaerys I's previous reign. Viserys I ruled for over twenty-five years, making him one of the most successful kings. | 16 | Viserys II
Viserys II had an uneventful and extremely short reign shortened by a suspected poisoning. He showed great promise in being a ruler much like Jaehaerys I was, but unfortunately he was never given the opportunity to rule properly. As a Hand to kings before him, he proved effective. He reminds me somewhat of Kevan or Tywin Lannister, but none could say how far those comparisons stretch. | 17 | Aerys I
The thing that stands out the most about Aerys I's reign to me is the prominence of Bloodraven as his Hand. This period was mostly consumed by Blackfyre rebellion and related turmoil. It was a reign of about a decade, spent resisting rebellion mostly under the influence of Bloodraven. | 18 | Daenerys, Mother of Dragons
Where to even begin with Daenerys? At one point I loved her, but most of the time she's a complete fool. She brings ruin everywhere she treads. She is responsible for the death of at least one husband, at least one child, and thousands of others. She strode into Essos whining and kicking and completely divested their economy of any feasible structure. She often seems to care more of carnal fancies than of ruling or reclaiming her birthright. I doubt her conquest will prove fruitful, if she ever embarks on it, as she often displays that she has no clue what she's doing, and never shows any signs of learning from her mistakes (unlike characters such as Sansa). She gets cool points for bringing dragons back into the world, but she's better off dead, in my opinion. Again, not a true queen at this point, but still a prominent ruler figure, and possibly the last bastion of the Targaryen dynasty. | 19 | Maekar I
Maekar I stands out to me because he was a renowned warrior. As a leader, he did a solid job keeping peace. But complete peace is boring, init? | 20 | Aenys I
Aenys I's rule is completely overshadowed by Aegon the Conqueror's. This period was uneventful, though he seemed to maintain the kingdom well enough to pass it to someone more capable (eventually). Aenys himself was considered to be somewhat of a defect, like Robert Arryn, currently; only somehow I think that Sweetrobin sitting the throne would be much more entertaining. I always pronounce his name “Anus.” | |
Anthracks
07.02.15 | Thought about including Aegon VI for half a second - but it's not feasible - or including Baratheons. | adr
07.02.15 | wtf how many of them are mentioned in the show? I've heard like 3 | Anthracks
07.02.15 | Probably just Aegon I, Baelor I, and Aerys II. Maybe a Viserys. | TalonsOfFire
07.02.15 | Dany did a lot of good things too, and she hasn't exactly been groomed to rule or anything. She's just doing her best with what she's got. At least she has an unflinching sense of right and wrong. | Anthracks
07.02.15 | She pointedly ignores the advice of her councillors; advice that often pans out to be the more prudent option. It's not that she isn't groomed, but that she is stubborn and won't listen to anyone. | Trebor.
07.02.15 | Dany's chapters are boring as fuck half the time | Gameofmetal
07.02.15 | Dany shouldn't even be listed since she hasn't truly ruled yet
how are you ranking them exactly? Aerys II over Egg seems odd | Gameofmetal
07.02.15 | dany is honestly pretty good, the bandwagon has grown against her tho since the fifth book what with the whole "fifty shades of daario" thing | Anthracks
07.02.15 | "There are a few things that determine ranking here, namely: the character of the ruler in question (e.g. how bad-ass they are), the storytelling capacity of their reign, or simply how successful they are as a ruler."
I rarely have the "good guys" or rootables as my favorite characters. As a reference, my favorite characters in the entire series are the like of Euron Greyjoy and Cersei Lannister; hate the majority of the Starks, etc. I tend to enjoy the people who are good at the "game," or the highly conflicted characters such as Theon and Jaime. | Anthracks
07.02.15 | Dany governs Meereen, thus making her a ruler. Her, Rhaenyra, and Daemon never were officially crowned in Westeros at any capacity, but I included that in my blurb for each of them. They are included because they are "close enough," and because it rounds the list out at twenty. | Anthracks
07.02.15 | I'll honestly be shocked if George doesn't kill Daenerys in the next book. To be honest, the only thing that can make her likeable for me at this point, is if she goes Baelor / Aerys crazy and goes cuckoo. The holy Saint Dany act, for me, is repulsive and counteracted by the fact that she's pretty stupid. | Trebor.
07.02.15 | Martin has a hard on for Dany and probably won't kill her | Anthracks
07.02.15 | Martin also has an even bigger hard-on for defying expectation and trashing trope. I think he will, probably before she even conquers. He's been quoted in many interviews that a big part of the premise and inspiration of this series, and some of the characters, was about combating popular tropes.
Just as I suspect Stoneheart will die. Again. | Gameofmetal
07.02.15 | I don't think she'll die, but I'm not sure she'll rule westeros. I kinda feel like she should remain in essos and continue her slave freedom thing. | Titan
07.02.15 | agreed with hep........fucking nerds | wwf
07.02.15 | Yeah I like Dany but she deserves to get her shit wrecked in Westeros. She tries but she gets off on power wayyyy too much and has no interest in playing the game of the thrones. That might get her to the throne but she'd never last.
It's interesting because we're starting to see far less people actually trying to game the throne and the smarter characters like Tywin are dying. Even Littlefinger is kind of in an odd position. But once the power vacuum is filled there's no doubt that someone like Dany would get Robert Baratheon-ed in like a decade, whether the books or show will show it or not. | LambsBread
07.02.15 | this show definitely ruined the books, i wish i had never started watching it.
Did you read that new 'history of game of thrones' or whatever book Martin put out? or how the hell do you know all these tedious details? | wwf
07.02.15 | who tf r u | Gameofmetal
07.02.15 | really you can pick up most of the details in the books, but the history book that came out is much more in depth. | Anthracks
07.02.15 | Deleted all the stupid troll posts. There's been a lot of info about Targs on the wikis over the years, but yeah the history book was pretty in-depth also. I can't wait for GRRM's actual ASoIaF history book(s) that he's writing.
Martin didn't actually write the World book. | Gameofmetal
07.02.15 | wait why would he be writing another one
he had a part in this one, and even if he didn't write it, it doesnt matter. it has all the correct info and it's not poorly done by any means. are you sure he's doing another one? | Anthracks
07.02.15 | Yeah, he's been working on the "GRRMillian" for years. It will compile full versions of the stories contained within this history. The World of Ice and Fire is only 300 pages or so, with illustrations. This one (or volume) is promising to be a tome, so it would seem. Like the short stories contained in Dangerous Women and Rogues...those, even at their length of 100+ pages, were only a small part of the "full versions" that GRRM is withholding for his own compilations. | Trebor.
07.02.15 | plz don't die Martin | Anthracks
07.02.15 | Not to mention, who knows where he stands with the other seven Dunk and Egg stories that he planned on publishing. He's releasing a compilation of the first three later this year. A crash grab that I will certainly succumb to.
And the She Wolves of Winterfell story that he teased for a while. | Anthracks
07.02.15 | This is what happens when an amazing storyteller doesn't enjoy writing. | MattTD
07.02.15 | Daenerys got soooooo boring in the last few seasons of GoT, I really want her to have a good storyline but it just feels like she's doing everything EXCEPT moving on Westeros | Anthracks
07.02.15 | Part of that has to do with the fact that GRRM wrote the character of Daenerys to have a story comprised in three books. As his story expanded to an increasing number of volumes due to new characters and world-building, and the decision to not make a 10-year gap in volumes (resulting in the Feast and Dance novels), the stories of the original characters had to also be stretched out (Daenerys, Bran, Arya, Sansa), so that is why not much is happening with them. The only problem with that, is that, in Daenerys' case, her character has undergone some unwanted changes due to the extended length of the Essos storyline, which I can only imagine was not supposed to last so long in his initial ideas for the trilogy. | Anthracks
07.02.15 | Well, don't post inciteful nonsense. | hal1ax
07.03.15 | i always liked reading about the Rhaegar lore in the books. Is he not listed because he died before ever getting to rule? or ? | Anthracks
07.03.15 | Yeah, he died before becoming king. He would have been a great king, most likely, were it not for the Usurper. | Polyethylene
09.19.16 | Rhaegar would have been a gracious monarch. His heartbreak about Summerhall showed how much he gave a shit about the people and avoiding violence. Sure he could swing a sword like a beast, but I doubt he ever enjoyed killing... same as Ned in that regard. | Flugmorph
09.19.16 | list reported |
|