FowlKrietzsche
07.04.24 | List is missing Beyonce |
Havey
07.04.24 | are they ranked |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | why is this featured |
ArsMoriendi
07.04.24 | There they are: all 3 pop divas ever |
Hawks
07.04.24 | How tf does this random shitty list from a user that I have never heard of in almost 17 years on this site get featured but I can't get features on lists I spend literal hours making??? This site is ass backwards. |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | yeah, i hear you Hawks, your DM list was in alphabetical order and my artwork list took ages to find loads of different styles, the mods don't care about us one bit |
Ladron93
07.04.24 | I enjoy Charli XCX's albums, so she's pop diva. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.04.24 | This is so much better than any list hawks has ever made |
Hawks
07.04.24 | Look its Pots following me around trying to suck me off again. Dude only shows up to express his creepy man love to me and creep on my every move. |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | If your profile picture is you naked rubbing your nipples imagine what he's like when no one is looking, horrifying user |
kildare
07.04.24 | Said bighubbaduddha: "the mods don't care about us one bit"
Lack of transparency hurts this site a lot imo. I personally don't have many regular connections myself, of course. But just as an observer there appears to be a lot of camaraderie among users on this site, and there sometimes appears to be at least SOME camaraderie among staffers/contributors.
But camaraderie between users and staffers? That seems relatively rare. Not totally absent -- DadKungFu, Johnny and robertsona come immediately to mind here -- but still pretty thin on the ground considering the power staffers have over how the site is run. The site would probably be a little healthier if that wasn't the case; then the transparency issue would take care of itself. But maybe the "health" of this site is merely academic at this point
There’s some problems that are out of the staffer’s hands, though, like our society's devolving ability to handle disagreement, argument and reconciliation civilly. But transparency is the one that matters here
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kildare
07.04.24 | @Andersn: Some commentary on why acts like Beyonce -- not to mention old women like Madonna -- were left out would be interesting. I would guess that such a list would get read by at least a few hundred people, a lot more if you spread it around Reddit or Instagram or where ever. (You can't see the view count on a list the way you can on a review, but you probably know who to ask to get them).
Anyway, you wouldn't know it from the comments, but there are plenty girl-pop fans on this site. It's just that posting a list like this is like going to a concert where Cannibal Corpse opens for Taylor Swift. You either have to stand back and ignore the comments, or get in the pit yourself.
There's aggro here and there, but the staff usually do a good job of ejecting the crowdkillers. I'm 99.9999999% confident that there's a lot of fans on here that would appreciate more lists like this. But preferably with some commentary |
ArsMoriendi
07.04.24 | Guys it's not that serious |
Hawks
07.04.24 | No but its annoying. This list is garbage. |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | If this list had interesting artists like Janelle Monae, Tinashe, FKA Twigs I would understand the feature but just 3 artists, one of which is a Disney reject and the other who is more famous for her exes than her songs (Ariana) makes this list a joke |
ffs
07.04.24 | pop deez |
kildare
07.04.24 | Oh, it's not THAT serious. It isn't nuclear war serious, or an ebola pandemic, or anything. But I agree 100% with Hawks that it is annoying. Favoritism, especially the passive sneaky kind, is incredibly destructive to morale |
anode
07.04.24 | Great list, straight to the point, no fluff, short and sweet. Omg these ARE pop divas 10/10 |
kildare
07.04.24 | But seriously, I'm not trying to be a dick, but why are they better than Janelle Monae, Tinashe, FKA Twig and them? I'm checking out Ariana Grande right now (but not for long), and I'm not into this stuff (for one exception: Madonna's Erotica, which rocks) so I can't tell the difference.
Are these pseudo-underground acts in pop? I.e., less commercialized and algorithmic, and more genuine, or what? I'm sure there is a difference, but people from a wider audience -- and on this site wide means really fucking WIDE -- would like some commentary. And apparently even pop lovers disagree. |
anode
07.04.24 | I’m sure andersn has some great topic points to back up his opinion. Eagerly awaiting |
ArsMoriendi
07.04.24 | Any Staff member can feature and un-feature any list of for any reason
Find a metalhead staff to feature your metal lists, there's plenty |
Hawks
07.04.24 | Completely missing the point I see. |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | Grande is the definition of good but not great, she has a hardcore cultish fanbase but the rest of the world correctly sees her as competent yet unremarkable, if she hadn't dated Big Sean, Mac Miller or Pete Davidson she wouldn't be half as famous |
anode
07.04.24 | Tbf hawks youre probs blacklisted from getting features for a while after your most recent meltdown |
Hawks
07.04.24 | I had a list featured after my meltdown though lmao. |
Hawks
07.04.24 | And its just the point that this guy that nobody has ever heard of threw together a garbage ass list with 3 albums, 2 of which are dogshit, with no commentary of any kind and BOOM....FEATURE lmao. |
alamo
07.04.24 | poop divas |
anode
07.04.24 | Na I get it but it’s kinda an arbitrary system to begin with so who really cares |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | If you want a mainstream pop star that has great instrumentalization and catchy choruses Dua Lipa is levels above Rodrigo and Grande |
kildare
07.04.24 | Thanks for clarifying bighubbabuddha! Honestly, pretty much anything about music of any genre can be made to be interesting for me, even though I don't care for the genre. Believe me, as a die hard industrial fan, I get "cultish" :-) |
kildare
07.04.24 | "arbitrary system": True, that's the world we live in. Still, democratic systems -- or republican ones, as this one is -- work better than authoritarian ones as a general rule |
anode
07.04.24 | The sput reich strikes again |
el_newg
07.04.24 | FINALLY Andersn strikes gold with another killer list, your fans have been patiently waiting these past 5 months 😍😍😍😍 thanks for the feature mods 👍💯 always making sure to highlight the best content for us to see!! 🤩🙌 |
kildare
07.04.24 | @anode: "sput reich": I missed the first few reichs (have there been more?), so I don't know what you mean. Sounds like an obvious nazi reference, though, so I'm feeling defensive and itching for battle. (BTW, the U.S. is technically a democratic republic, the Third Reich was not). Am I justified in being defensive, or am I just over reacting? I'm probably totally over-reacting with respect to the "arbitrariness" issue, but nazi references are fighting words, friend.
anyway anode, yeah, arbitrary decisions aren't a big deal, or at least they're not unusual, but even social creatures like apes and monkeys and elephants and dogs understand unfairness. Arbitrary treatment is VERY deep in our circuitry. If you felt like YOU were being treated unfairly you'd likely feel the way Hawks does, even though it's petty in the big scheme of things
@Hawks: you're pretty arrogant -- I'm not starting shit here, man, you just said it yourself above! -- and often come off trollish (here I AM starting shit), so I don't know if your neglect was justified or just perceived on your part. But it really doesn't matter for the sake of argument, because there is no truth in politics, there is ONLY perception. I don't agree at all with your attitude towards music that you simply don't like, but I do think that if a particular staffer, or particular staffers, have a problem with you, I think they need to say so.
anode did it right in this case by stating why he thinks you're getting shunned. Sputnik could use a lot more of this kind thing |
anode
07.04.24 | It was a joke |
Hawks
07.04.24 | Lmao I'm arrogant for pointing out a fact? I'll own that one if thats the case. Don't recall calling myself arrogant so idk what you're ranting about but whatever lol. Also I've been on this site for almost 2 decades my man. There's no trolling here and never has been so idk why you're assuming you know me. I have literally never interacted with you. At least not any times that I can remember. |
kildare
07.04.24 | I was afraid of that. Oops!
When I've been reading about politics, as I did a little this morning before I got on Sputnik, I get a little like Happy Gilmore in this bar scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP1KHL0j0GU |
Hawks
07.04.24 | Also nobody here has "shunned" me lmao. At least not anyone who's opinions I give two shits about. You are not one of them. |
kildare
07.04.24 | Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that lmao = "In My Arrogant Opinion"
"garbage list,"
"this guy writes a...random shitty list."
That's just a blatant attack on this lists' author. I had good friends and partied with many in the metal community and totally, completely understand this attitude, and still find it a little amusing, if pretty high school-ish. It's exactly how we talked about music we didn't like, especially the popular kind. But a lot of fans of girl-pop don't get it, and are going to see these comments as trollish. THAT is a fact.
"been on this site for decades...I have literally never interacted with you. At least not any times that I can remember". As part of the Sputnik nobility, if your status is so high, why even bother responding to a peasant like me?
More relevantly, if your status is so high, and your opinions on shitty music carries as much authority as you seem to think it does, then why do you get shunned from features?
I note your comment above: "How tf does this random shitty list from a user that I have never heard of in almost 17 years on this site get featured but I can't get features on lists I spend literal hours making??? This site is ass backwards." |
Hawks
07.04.24 | Ok bruh you're doing way too much it really ain't such a big deal that you have to write an entire essay. You win cause I'm not reading all that lmao. |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | The mods have been awfully quiet in these comments.
I'm with Hawks on this one kildare, this list is garbage and shitty, we aren't being personal about Andersn, there is simply nothing redeeming about this list. I'm sure the guy is lovely. |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | Andersn if you are reading this we love you |
kildare
07.04.24 | Bear with me. Long time = trying to make it short, not long |
anode
07.04.24 | Man Kildare making even hawks look calm and sensible. Lmao does not mean in my arrogant opinion lmao just google it my man |
kildare
07.04.24 | Still shortening. Hawks say true that I rant. Brevity is a struggle
@anode: Fuck a duck. Okay, sorry about that Hawks. I'm only barely fucking literate in text-speak; probably a good argument for my cancellation.
This was my source and I missed the "L": https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/what-does-imao-mean-in-my-arrogant-opinion
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bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | kildare you are my second favourite bird user on this site but you can't be serous. everyone knows lmao is laugh my ass off. I've never heard in my arrogant opinion abbreviation once and i used to play loads of video games as a teen and had facebook etc |
JohnnyoftheWell
07.04.24 | 9/10 list where is lady gago |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | Johnny go 4.5 some esoteric weeb music |
kildare
07.04.24 | @Hawks: "You win cause I'm not reading all that": Damn, bro, that's no fun, but ok. I maintain that you were correct to complain about not being featured, though.
@bighubbabuddha: It’s like I said, I’m not bothered by harsh criticism personally. I get where you're coming from. But I value Sputnik a lot, and from some of the comments I see here and there I worry that the owner is thinking of nuking it. One of the reasons for that could be that it is becoming increasingly “irrelevant” and one of the reasons for THAT could be that it is not friendly for users of all genres. The mixed crowds at Depeche Mode concerts simply aren’t talking with the same level of aggression as the (mostly angry dudes) do at Slayer shows. I know; I’ve seen them both.
I prefer Sputnik to be more like a fucking mosh pit – how else can you talk about Death Metal, for Christ’s sake? – but I value the site enough to try and help keep it afloat. Also writing that mosh pit list a couple days ago apparently got me in the mood for fight
Finally (fuck man, somebody please get me off this hook and let me swim back to my quiet little pond), “facts” about music and art in general are amusing but just look stupid to me. The only way to measure anything “objectively” is to do it mathematically, and by the numbers Taylor Swift wins because she’s a billionaire. Or Bach wins because his command of textbook theory is unparalleled. I think Taylor’s music sucks and Bach’s music is supreme, but there’s no way I can prove it. Opinions do not equal “facts.”
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kildare
07.04.24 | It's the best I could do. It's a kind madness. They even have a word for it: Mania |
Egarran
07.04.24 | Haha glad I went against my instincts and checked this list out. |
kildare
07.04.24 | bighubbabuddha, I look literate in some respects but am desperately unlettered in others. "unlettered", or ignorant? It's a little sad |
Drifter
07.04.24 | whose alt |
ArsMoriendi
07.04.24 | Idk why people call it pop when it’s clearly soda |
Hawks
07.04.24 | Nobody says soda in Pittsburgh lol. |
bellovddd
07.04.24 | holy shit how is this hubba goose still around. the epitome of 13 year old edginess mixed with the inability to string sentences together.. have a cookie you steaming pile on nonsense. |
Sinternet
07.04.24 | great list, sometimes beauty is a minimal art form. beats shitty metal lists of 100 identical dm albums the creator hasn't heard |
Hawks
07.04.24 | Sin you're not worthy in any way of your contrib status. One single shitty review this year. I have heard every single album on my list multiple times over 2 decades. Why would I lie? Lmao you contribute nothing to this site. I've smoked you in every conceivable way. |
SomeCallMeTim
07.04.24 | Your reviews could be written by a 3rd grader, I really wouldn’t brag |
Hawks
07.04.24 | Coming from you Tim that means a lot cause you suck just as much as Sin and your opinion means less than dog vomit to me lmao. |
Hawks
07.04.24 | Both of you sissy boys couldn't hurt a flea lmao. |
bellovddd
07.04.24 | why would you wanna hurt a flea though. what they done :( |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | Bellovdd you don't need to tell people you are a virgin, just keep 5ing counterparts |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.04.24 | WE GOT THAT HOOD LOVE
WE GOT THAT GOOD LOVE
WE GOT THAT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
SPUT YOU MAKE ME MAKE BAD DECISIONS |
bellovddd
07.04.24 | alright bro. keep passing out those cookies bro. everyone really likes ya bro, well done.
Imagine saying your a virgin to someone in 2024 like its a sick burn from 2001. Grow up bubba. You'll get there one day kid. |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | Those cookies kept people alive through COVID you metalcore monster |
bellovddd
07.04.24 | YE BRO. |
bellovddd
07.04.24 | no thanks bubba. bye bye |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | Why do you put full stops after every sentence? I bet you always had your shirt tucked in at school too right |
bighubbabuddha
07.04.24 | You call me a kid yet you are in your 30s/40s and your favourite genre of music is metalcore, talk about being a manchild you corndog |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.04.24 | >Imagine saying your a virgin to someone
omffffggggggg youuuuuuuuuurrrrreeeeeeeeeee*****
its like ur still 13 beluvd GODDD |
anode
07.04.24 | So sad how all it took was an unknown user making a 3 item list to tear this site apart |
Egarran
07.04.24 | It's the little things. |
efp123
07.04.24 | counterparts is good though |
artiswar
07.04.24 | why is this featured lol |
protokute
07.04.24 | LOL there was absolutely NO reason for me to click on this list. |
bellovddd
07.04.24 | It's good when things like smoke and bubba stick together. makes it a lot easier for the rest of us. |
Egarran
07.04.24 | As the proverb says: "The comments justify the feature." |
Butkuiss
07.04.24 | Flag plz |
artiswar
07.04.24 | who is smoke and bubba? never heard of these fellows |
bellovddd
07.04.24 | lucky you art!! |
porcupinetheater
07.05.24 | So many people itt not recognizing this list is all encompassing smh
“But what about…”
Sweetie pie the artist you just mentioned is a prima donna, or perhaps a chanteuse. |
fogza
07.05.24 | I find this list very enigmatic |
FearThyEvil
07.05.24 | "You call me a kid yet you are in your 30s/40s and your favourite genre of music is metalcore, talk about being a manchild you corndog"
Your shoutbox posts to smok alone show you have the maturity level of someone about 15 years old at max. You need to sit this one out. Then again, if you are buddy buddy with smok to begin with, that already says quite a lot. |
jrlikestodance
07.05.24 | Metalcore rules < 3 List needs Janet Jackson!!! |
Cormano
07.05.24 | I feel whatever this user was trying to accomplish he fucking did it, hell he probably did it by the 10th comment
best thread in recent memory |
FowlKrietzsche
07.05.24 | Sput Divas |
Koris
07.05.24 | "I feel whatever this user was trying to accomplish he fucking did it, hell he probably did it by the 10th comment"
I just love how OP barely needed to do anything. 3 entries, no description, no explanation, and yet the thread became a complete shitshow. Only on Sput, lol |
jrlikestodance
07.05.24 | OP hasn't even commented either lol. Love it. Need a Sput diva ranking also |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.05.24 | >Your shoutbox posts to smok
in my defense all i did was fart in his shoutbox once |
pizzamachine
07.05.24 | List is short list |
bighubbabuddha
07.05.24 | The list has been UNFEATURED
We have justice, our efforts were not in vain |
bellovddd
07.05.24 | love the ghost negs on all my reviews smok and bubba. lmao. I am impressed thats'60 different reviews you had to click on just to neg. well done, maybe get a job or something. |
bighubbabuddha
07.05.24 | I work as a data analyst for the ONS. Smok's employment status is unknown. |
bellovddd
07.05.24 | im sure you do, have a cookie. |
Koris
07.05.24 | "The list has been UNFEATURED
We have justice, our efforts were not in vain"
Don't tempt me lol |
anode
07.05.24 | I the thread became so abominable they didn’t want it on the front page |
Cormano
07.05.24 | "I just love how OP barely needed to do anything. 3 entries, no description, no explanation, and yet the thread became a complete shitshow. Only on Sput, lol"
lol yeah whats best is in 4 years hes only got 2 comments under his belt
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artiswar
07.05.24 | honestly kind of an epic thread considering how low-effort it was |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.06.24 | lmao way to assume im petty enough to waste that time on u beluvd ive never done any such thing to u or anyone else perhaps youre just not as beluvd as u think |
efp123
07.06.24 | go away |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.06.24 | eat my balls
everyone bump my cool dragons list instead its cooler |
bellovddd
07.06.24 | go away (2) |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.06.24 | kind of cant when i have a nice roomy space free of charge in the biggest compartment of your mind |
efp123
07.06.24 | you're on the spectrum yeah? I've watched you from afar be this way for like two years.. fun huh? lol |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.06.24 | ok are you a stalker or a psychologist |
efp123
07.06.24 | fuck your bit dude. the site is sick of it. I don't get loud a lot of the time, but I feel like I had to say something about your bullshit |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.06.24 | i am a memer agreed
feel better now? |
efp123
07.06.24 | facts feel good, yeah |
efp123
07.06.24 | fuck that memer shit. no pass, but cool try |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.06.24 | ok stay mad |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.06.24 | condom or...? |
bighubbabuddha
07.06.24 | and johnny re-features this list in an act of bitterness |
PumpBoffBag
07.06.24 | This is the thread that just keeps on giving |
Egarran
07.06.24 | Ooh look at mr complicated bitch over here |
artiswar
07.06.24 | lmao |
efp123
07.07.24 | Hahahaa that made me audibly laugh out loud |
bighubbabuddha
07.08.24 | the list has been updated |
jrlikestodance
07.08.24 | Grimes ): |
Havey
07.08.24 | 2 more divas! this is exciting |
el_newg
07.08.24 | i thought we had got them all |
ArsMoriendi
07.08.24 | Kinda disappointed that he added 2
What a sellout |
bighubbabuddha
07.08.24 | yeah there was a simple honesty to his original take
this kinda feels like he became self-conscious and decided to overcompensate |
artiswar
07.08.24 | And it's no longer featured lol. That's what you get for being wishy-washy with your list! |
Cormano
07.08.24 | idk fellas I kinda dig the new additions |
SomeCallMeTim
07.08.24 | List is still based |
ToSmokMuzyki
07.08.24 | i need to make a 5 dragon list now |