botulist: Bands/Film Directors

botulist 04.17.20	what directors that are sort of shit do YOU like?
budgie 04.17.20	i like oz perkins, jeremy saulnier, justin benson & aaron moorhead, & jeremy gardner
budgie 04.17.20	i have seen the neon demon & valhalla rising by refn and enjoyed them both
JohnnyoftheWell 04.17.20	Lol hard @7
botulist 04.17.20	@ budgie - I saw spring and it started off so fucking good, but then the italian girl was a terrible actress and the romantic dialogue between them was cliched as shit, and sounded like it was written by a 13-year old.
Ryus 04.17.20	belle and sebastian is wes anderson
botulist 04.17.20	too on the nose. updated.
Satellite 04.17.20	"belle and sebastian is wes anderson" i had this exact thought. ths/coen bros is the most cogent pairing imo.
botulist 04.17.20	too on the nose. it's on the soundtrack(s).
Source 04.17.20	never heard of these dudes
Satellite 04.17.20	who you got for robert eggers?
budgie 04.17.20	@botulist spring typically gets high marks in the horror community but i will agree with you the relationship between the two mains is awkward and unbelievable, i'm not terribly big on that film i named benson & moorhead mainly for resolution and the endless
botulist 04.17.20	@Satellite- interesting. need to think on this. your thoughts? @budgie - will check the endless, heard very good things.
Satellite 04.17.20	not sure tbh. gotta be a super original band/artist with a small sample size that hit their stride immediately. joy division?
budgie 04.17.20	fyi the endless is more or less a sequel to resolution & it would be better appreciated having seen resolution beforehand
botulist 04.17.20	yes! wanna do the write-up? @budgie- ay ay captain.
JokineAugustus 04.17.20	I like Cronenberg. Eastern Promises and Dead Ringers are my 2 favourites of his.
botulist 04.17.20	hmmm. I've seen only a few of his movies. and I hated Eastern Promises.
budgie 04.17.20	his remake of the fly is beyond brutal
botulist 04.17.20	hahaha, yes it is. but a cult movie if there ever was one, mostly thanks to goldblum. he's a one-dimensional actor, but that one dimension is totally his to occupy.
Trebor. 04.17.20	very bad wes anderson take
Deathconscious 04.17.20	"Hyper American, mostly for whites only." Dumb thing to say.
botulist 04.17.20	@Trebor - are you a grown person who listens to a lot of emo? because if yes, i understand. @the other one - is it though?
Kompys2000 04.17.20	Lmao this list whips, even though I don't agree with some of it
Kompys2000 04.17.20	The real question though: which band is Spielberg?
botulist 04.17.20	https://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/U2/209/ maybe?
Kompys2000 04.17.20	Hmm, has the right sort of crowd-pleasing sentimental streak, but I don't think Spielberg has enough of a sociopolitical bent to mirror Bono's whole "millionaires for peace" shtick. You're probably on the right track though.
Kompys2000 04.17.20	Also, my roommate and I decided Michael Bay = Van Halen, thoughts?
botulist 04.17.20	not bad, though i was thinking of matching Bay with a nu-metal band. big, loud, stupid etc.
budgie 04.17.20	maybe michael bay and KISS
botulist 04.17.20	hahaha. do some write-ups, boys.
Kompys2000 04.17.20	Ooh, KISS would be another great choice for Bay- colorful, flashy, has a major propensity for explosions and a slightly-less-major propensity for knuckle-dragging misogyny. Looked down upon by the artiste set, but the scores of lesser imitators prove they're master craftsmen in their own way.
Kompys2000 04.17.20	I'd pair a bad nu-metal band with Zack Snyder probably. Really strikes that magic balance of grim joylessness and crude spectacle.
budgie 04.17.20	you could pair rob zombie with rob zombie
Kompys2000 04.17.20	Rob Zombie is very much the Rob Zombie of directors lol
Rowan5215 04.17.20	Refn is spot on here, dude's movies are the most faux-deep art school garbage I've seen this side of the Primer guy's second movie good list
budgie 04.17.20	ya i've rewatched the neon demon a couple of times and i don't really find any substance other than "hollywood bad" it's still a very pretty film
Kompys2000 04.17.20	Ween and Edgar Wright Enamored with pastiche and imitation, even more enamored with their own particular sense of humor. Known for irreverent silliness but has an underrated sensitive side. Can't seem to expand their fanbase beyond 20something failsons despite their cleverness and technical mastery.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.20	I went to art school. No ones films ever looked that pretty
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.20	These are all over the top harsh btw
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.20	The endless was a solid 5/10 btw btw
botulist 04.17.20	I mean, malick’s Films look as pretty, and beyond some exercises in machismo that plague Refn, they’re virtually identical, favouring style heavily over substance
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.20	Oh I'm not arguing that Refn is firmly a style over substance director, he is for sure I'd like Rowan to watch his tv show he'd die
neekafat 04.17.20	10 is a stretch but I dig this list a lot lol props
combustion07 04.17.20	Nicolas Winding Refn rules. Just got done watching the Pusher trilogy and honestly the first one might be my favorite crime movie now. Each installment is great in such different ways. Drive and Bronson were great too so I should probably check his output after that
Rowan5215 04.17.20	I'd rather eat my own arm than watch the knockoff Twin Peaks I'm sure Refn's show must be. he does have the money to hire cinematographers more talented than he is tho agreed
botulist 04.17.20	nice delete, Trebor! I understand after all
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.20	10 was actually my favourite, some of the others made me sad tho
budgie 04.17.20	ya i dont think i ever saw a tim burton production i didnt adore
Trebor. 04.17.20	I didn't delete it bitch someone else did
botulist 04.17.20	I think aside from parts of Big Eyes, I have never truly enjoyed anything by Burton
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.20	@rowan it's nothing like twin peaks whatsoever but yeah you'd shit your colon out if you saw it regardless
Rowan5215 04.17.20	Burton stinks but he gave us all Winona Ryder so due appreciation for that
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.20	I thought big eyes was just ok. Only burton I love is nightmare before christmas
Trebor. 04.17.20	pee-wee's big adventure is great
botulist 04.17.20	@Treb - I can see where the royal tenenbaums and bottle rocket have rubbed off
Trebor. 04.17.20	yep
Kompys2000 04.17.20	Burton's devolved into such an embarrassing parody of himself that I now have a hard time watching even his earlier stuff, which I understand intellectually is mostly quite good
budgie 04.17.20	oh ya winona ryder in heathers was my first love, or maybe her in edward scissorhands, idr
botulist 04.17.20	Kompys, will add your Ween Wright write up to the list tomorrow morning
Rowan5215 04.17.20	in Heathers for sure, that blonde wig in Edward Scissorhands was ugly af
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.20	Um Beetlejuice duh
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.20	Og goth gf
budgie 04.17.20	ya beetlejuice too
JokineAugustus 04.17.20	Dead Alive/Braindead anyone?
tectactoe 04.17.20	how dare you compare Bjork to that hack Inarritu
botulist 04.17.20	I dared, I did!!
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.20	Dead Alive is one of the grossest movies i've ever seen in my entire life, and its great "how dare you compare Bjork to that hack Inarritu" bork can white knuckle this L
budgie 04.17.20	never really liked that movie
loveisamixtape 04.17.20	were u guys talking about too old to die young ?
JokineAugustus 04.17.20	The lawnmower scene alone makes it a classic @pots
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.17.20	"were u guys talking about too old to die young ?" ye
Rowan5215 04.18.20	I kick arse for the LORD
botulist 04.18.20	downloaded dead alive, will watch right after a zoom whiskey party.
budgie 04.18.20	can i join
EyesWideShut 04.18.20	Michael Mann is the perfect example of style and substance. Most impressive thing about Refn is he's colorblind.
EyesWideShut 04.18.20	probably something like Burial for Mann
botulist 04.18.20	sorry budgie, this is a former bandmates/uni sort of deal. that being said, a sputnik zoom party wouldn't go amiss. @Eyes - I don't think Heat is as good as people want it to be. But Thief with James Caan, and the Insider in particular are both brilliant works of his.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.18.20	lol bands
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.18.20	do you have a guitarist?
botulist 04.18.20	present.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.18.20	hah gay
botulist 04.18.20	i know. every fret i felt was like a fat throbbing vein on the phallus of unemployment. we did open for dinosaur jr once though.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 04.18.20	i detest that band but thats pretty cool regardless i seen them once. reminded me of airplanes.
ArsMoriendi 04.18.20	"Ween and Edgar Wright Enamored with pastiche and imitation, even more enamored with their own particular sense of humor. Known for irreverent silliness but has an underrated sensitive side. Can't seem to expand their fanbase beyond 20something failsons despite their cleverness and technical mastery." Damn I've only seen 3 of his films I need to fix that
budgie 04.18.20	what kinda amp botulist!
EyesWideShut 04.18.20	@Botulist You dig any of Abel Ferrara's films ? He's a national treasure high on crack.
ArsMoriendi 04.18.20	What about Richard Linklater? Is there such a thing as a plotless slice of life music artist? Maybe something ambient?
botulist 04.18.20	@budgie - peavey roadmaster and marshalls. the branca rig. @eyewideshut - only saw bad lieutenant. keitel is reliably great.
botulist 04.18.20	i don't think you'll like my take on linklater. i find the conversation in that trilogy incredibly stilted. the third one is pretty good though.
ArsMoriendi 04.18.20	Oh the Before trilogy? I only saw the first of those and it was good, but not amazing I really like Boyhood, Bernie, and Dazed and Confused though
botulist 04.18.20	haven't seen those. but will eventually! my stack of to-see films is to the ceiling at this point.
EyesWideShut 04.18.20	Linklater would be something like Hootie & The Blowfish
botulist 04.18.20	hahahahah. well-meaning, stupidly sweet, like an SPCA puppy.
ReefaJones 07.20.20	If this list wasn't this creative I'd shit on it hard just because Kubrick of course is one of the greatest directors of all time.
Lord(e)Po)))ts 07.20.20	Reefa really relates to the apes at the beginning of 2001
MillionDead 07.20.20	Gloriously pretentious list idea. I'm down for it, if only I felt it weren't being forcibly contrarian about nearly everything that it references. Noah Baumbach "For whites only." ??? Nigga, I'm actually black and Marriage Story and Meyerorwitz Stories were both fucking gems. Imagine thinking that PoC can only watch movies that relate directly to them instead of stepping outside of themselves to take in a story like anyone tf else. It's not that minorities don't need more representation in media, cause we definitely do. BUT I don't just need to see a darker person for me to have any chance of relating to a story or thinking it's good. They were both movies about rich white people, and that's fine cause even if that isn't me, everyone goes through shit like daddy issues and divorce. lol The gall you must have to tell minorities/other minorities (if you are one) what they're supposed to like to watch, or speak for them and tell other white people what people that aren't white like to watch. Godspeed do not deserve that shit, they have super emotional and cathartic climaxes for people whose ears work. Winding Refn and Swans are pretty great when they strike a groove of consistence, which I guess Swans are more on as a band than Winding Refn as a director but Refn still is capable of many sparks of genius, especially in shot composition. Kubrick is excellent and so is Innaritu. Bjork is a genius and I think Kubrick to Bungle is a poor stylistic comparison. This stupid statement again, Coen Brothers are certainly not for whites only. Maybe good movie lovers only. Like, other races love noir and westerns too, idk why they shouldn't. My black dad put me onto movies like that. And then you went and picked a weaker Jesus Lizard record. As much as I don't like Tarintino as a person, his movies mostly slap and DOOM also hasn't had a bad record. I kind of agree with you about Lars Von Trier but Nymphomaniac is a good flick. And he likes to chew scenery but I'd hardly call what he turns out boring. Like he has parts that are really cool but also parts where he's really up his own ass. Plus, he's very problematic. Generally, he would be much better if he weren't so set on being provocative, not unlike this list.
ReefaJones 07.20.20	I have a stalker, help!