grindcorecore: technical wankery

grindcorecore 08.22.16	alternatively if you like prog, tell me why you like it
grindcorecore 08.22.16	ALA i thought you were over being cringy
Futures 08.22.16	hiroshima will burn
Futures 08.22.16	and opeth for prog metal like duh saw you didn't have them rated
grindcorecore 08.22.16	another i don't like is the production that a lot of newer prog metal bands use. the drums sound fake as hell and everything feels very sterile.
grindcorecore 08.22.16	probably a lame question, but where do i start with opeth?
Futures 08.22.16	tough choice. my fav is blackwater park i'd say there is probably the best intro to their sound
LotusFlower 08.22.16	Native Construct - Quiet World Due to the over the top nature of the opera elements on this record, it's gets to get away with technical wankery.
grindcorecore 08.22.16	@future i'm gonna jam it on my train ride home @clover this sounds interesting thanks
Koris 08.22.16	I like technical music as long as I can still discern some emotion in the music, as well as good songwriting. But if it's completely robotic and lifeless, then hell no
brainmelter 08.22.16	2 YES, I wouldn't necessarily call it wank but im happy to see it getting some love for once YES
grindcorecore 08.22.16	2 isn't that wanky. i liked it, i didn't think i would tbh
EvoHavok 08.22.16	2 is really good.
GhostOfSarcasticBtrd 08.22.16	Psyopus and anything early Erak.
tempest-- 08.22.16	demilich - nespithe duh
Koris 08.22.16	Tempest is correct
grindcorecore 08.22.16	listening to demilich rn, it's fantastic
ShadowRemains 08.22.16	atrocity - hallucinations (basically a good amount of old school tech death rules, most of the new stuff is garbage save a few bands)
SitarHero 08.22.16	David Maxim Micic - Bilo 3.0 Skyharbor - Guiding Lights Plini - The End of Everything The Contortionist - Language
grindcorecore 08.22.16	thanks for all the suggestions fam
Rik VII 08.22.16	your list makes it sound like you use prog and wankery interchangably and that's kinda naive. I mean, Wish You Were here is definitely a prog album, but it definitely isn't wankery. maybe you're just searching at all the wrong places.
grindcorecore 08.22.16	i don't think i do though. if i call a prog album a wank it's because the album is lifeless and feels as if it was just made to show how technical a musician can be.
Rik VII 08.22.16	yeah ok, like I said, you made it sound like that. so ... you're looking for good prog or for good wankery?
grindcorecore 08.22.16	good prog... that doesn't sound robotic or lifeless
AlexKzillion 08.22.16	Everybody needs to get guitar wank shots every once in a while.
Rik VII 08.22.16	ah ok. check out some essentials if you haven't already: Yes - Close to the Edge King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King also Le Orme - Felona e Sorona Anathema - We're Here Because We're Here concerning metal: Devin Townsend - Terria Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime (not that proggy, but is generally regarded a prog metal essential and it's definitely no wankery) anything Opeth and Tool ... prog is a totally unspecific term so this stuff will seem kinda random, but yeah. also, I know that some of them are rather obvious choices.
Archelirion 08.22.16	Looking at your ratings, and it looks like you need some Ulcerate in your life.
CalculatingInfinity 08.22.16	How about ascending all of these and going to the God of wank: Shakti
teamster 08.22.16	How about some technical thrash metal? Coroner is awesome.
smaugman 08.22.16	huh, your "technical prog rock" seems to be pink floyd. gz.
AlexKzillion 08.22.16	The more robotic the prog metal is the better. Mastodon is like the only prog metal band that has bored me tbh
Maco097 08.22.16	Modern technical death metal sucks donkey balls. I understand you.
insanedrexl1 08.22.16	Spawn of Possession
Shadowmire 08.22.16	i have low self worth so i like to overcompensate vicariously through prog musicians
Ocean of Noise 08.22.16	I love prog, but I think the technicality has to serve some kind of expressive purpose. If it's there just for the sake of it, I don't dig it. Technical music can be really exciting when it's pulled off well though
Maco097 08.22.16	10% of prog bands are good the rest are robotic.
YakNips 08.22.16	http://cloudkickermusic.com/album/beacons
Rik VII 08.22.16	"Technical music can be really exciting when it's pulled off well though" yup
rabidfish 08.22.16	The thing with tech-whatever is that when it reaches that high point of just ecstatic, orgiastic levels of speed and precision the music starts to make me feel something... I dunno, I've always been more on the "soul" train of thought, but there are very interesting places you can go to if you let a good technical band take you to.