sugarcubes: put out a new song

sugarcubes 12.02.18	yes this is a song cool shit i guess have fun
Beardog 12.02.18	singing has improved I think, track is a little all-over-the-place though
sugarcubes 12.02.18	yeah I intended it to sorta be all over the place i have been trying to improve my vocals tho actually, i just recorded them like an hour ago
Dewinged 12.02.18	Looking forward to your bumps.
sugarcubes 12.02.18	hahaha yeah true (immediately apologizes about it but does it anyway)
BlacKapes 12.02.18	sucks
sugarcubes 12.02.18	damn
BlacKapes 12.02.18	ep sucks too
BlacKapes 12.02.18	no offense
sugarcubes 12.02.18	:(
tyman128 12.02.18	slow down, I still need to review good morning for you haha... anyway, just got around to listening to Good Morning, should have a review for you in the coming days
combustion07 12.02.18	Pretty solid track man. I like the instrumentation a lot from 2:30 on
sugarcubes 12.02.18	@tyman128 hey thanks, i actually have a ton more material just sitting on my hard drive but i'm waiting to release more of it because i just put out good morning lol @combustion thanks! means a lot actually
sugarcubes 12.02.18	haha of course i'm gonna bump this
Sinternet 12.02.18	i'd probably add a filter on the vocals and a lot more delay
sugarcubes 12.02.18	interesting i might
sugarcubes 12.03.18	Y’all predicted it... This is a bump
Dewinged 12.03.18	Just jammed it and sorry dude, but truth be told this is not very good. Guitar is slightly out of tune, your singing, the melody is not engaging at all, lyrics leave a lot to be desired, your voice is just too dry, like Sint said, produce it, add some shit, craft some space for it, do smth with it. I had to parachute out mid-track, so I don't know if there are any arrangements or anything going on later but as it is, this is as boring as hearing your roommate practicing on a sunday morning. My advice: stop bumping this, delete the track from SC, go back to the drawing board, apply the feedback you've been given and finish the song before you put it out there again. I am sorry if this sounds too harsh but I prefer to tell you things as they are that help you living a lie.
sugarcubes 12.03.18	yeah im probably gonna delete it tbh
Beardog 12.03.18	0-100 real quick
sugarcubes 12.03.18	i mean i just deleted it
Dewinged 12.03.18	Don't get discouraged though, all I told you is in good will. I'm pretty sure you can do smth better.
sugarcubes 12.03.18	i was gonna write something else but it was going to come off like a guilt trip even tho it wasn't meant that way
Beardog 12.03.18	I'd honestly rather have constructive criticism than someone just saying 'oh yeah cool song'
sugarcubes 12.03.18	i don't even think i'm able to make a decent song anymore. i don't think i have the capacity to and i thought that music was the one thing i was able to do and i guess recently i've started to realize that the exact opposite is true, like i can't fucking write and every time i write i write about the same shit and i can't put anything together that sounds halfway decent and it pisses me off because i finish something and it comes out sounding great to me and then i show other people and it suddenly sucks and i go back to it and i realize how shitty it is. i would say that, yeah, one reason i even started doing music in the first place was just so that someone out there could resonate with just one thing that i'm feeling because i never even had that opportunity. but i don't even know how to fucking do that anymore. i want to take people's advice but some of it just makes me feel like i'm making music that can't even make me happy. i sound like an asshole saying this shit because i want to be criticized so that my music can be better and everything (that's why i'm on this site, lol) and i don't want people to be afraid of that because people should call me out and say something is bad, i don't want to be surrounded by yes men or anything. but by this point i'm second guessing everything about myself, if i'm actually just fucking terrible at making music in general and if i should just give up now like fuck i wonder how many hundreds of songs are on my hard drive that i've rejected and i wonder in hindsight how bad they are compared to something i thought was good enough to release. why can't i fucking write something good. why can't i fucking do this. why am i literally worse at everything else
J() Alexander 12.03.18	... Wow.
Beardog 12.03.18	ah that sucks man... Just give it time. I honestly liked the Good Morning record, that shit had some real potential. You are better off making music for yourself though, just do it for the fun. When I started I knew people wouldn't like most of the stuff I made but I was just experimenting with different sounds for the fun of it. Just as I am doing with my next record, it's supposed to be more of a rock-record with clean singing while that is what people disliked the most on my last record lol. Just do it for fun man, eventually you will find joy in it again! The point you made about doing it because it resonates with others is true though, I really liked your down to earth lyrics on Good Morning. EDIT: Maybe it's a good idea to collaborate with others for making music, it makes it way more fun and you learn a lot that way!
loveisamixtape 12.03.18	stop doing it to impress people and do it because u want to do it. be the person you intend on making it "resonate with" as you say. and don't whine when someone doesn't like it
artiswar 12.03.18	was gonna check it out but I guess I'm too late
veninblazer 12.03.18	damn, I feel your pain but at the same time that just gives me an excuse to keep at it. I've written like 20 or so tracks for my project but I will not be using more than like half of them because some of em are ehhhh.
Hawks 12.03.18	Great thread.
Dewinged 12.03.18	Being upset and frustrated is a first step already towards something better. I know feedback hurts, I had plenty of that myself but take it to heart and apply it. Some simple stuff like drowning that last song in reverb could give you a different view or open you up to new ways of making music. Just try different things and don't be in a hurry to put it up for others to listen.
veninblazer 12.03.18	^^^^^^^^^^^^^ exactly. I've spent MONTHS refining the tracks that I have ready to go, just need to record them eventually.
sugarcubes 12.03.18	at least i have more tracks than that that might go over a bit better
Dewinged 12.03.18	I've been working 2 years on an album and still nowhere close to finish.
Beardog 12.03.18	I feel like it'll take months before I have some good vocals for next record, that shit is gonna be challenging. Might even take singing lessons haha
Dewinged 12.03.18	Just remember folks, we'll die, but whatever's on record is forever.
veninblazer 12.03.18	honestly I probably won't be worrying too much about my vocal performances, I love the raw pitchy sort of approach and maybe I'll see what I can do on that front. but you do you! Been doing vocals for years though, so yea.
veninblazer 12.03.18	I'll probably be lucky if I can get it out next year since my setup atm is woefully inadequate for recording.
sugarcubes 12.03.18	maybe i should upload something else
veninblazer 12.03.18	@sugarcubes: is it a song you're confident in?
sugarcubes 12.03.18	maybe i'm wrong on this one but https://instaud.io/30aF
artiswar 12.03.18	I'm still not crazy about your vocals but I'll say this is probably your best performance so far in that regard. I found the song a bit cheesy but it settled nicely during the second half with the harmonies. Not bad.
Beardog 12.03.18	This is pretty good. Vocals can still improve but the falsettos and the 'country-guitars' are a nice touch
Hendoi 12.03.18	claw marks on hand could do without the "I don't belong here" part
sugarcubes 12.03.18	probably yeah
veninblazer 12.03.18	this track you just linked isn't bad. vocals def could use work but i kinda like the "rawer, pitchier version of Billie Joe Armstrong" thing you have going on.
Hendoi 12.03.18	sorry that wasn't a dig I actually liked the track outside of that part & the chorus on fatigue is cool.
sugarcubes 12.04.18	https://soundcloud.com/iamifno/where-did-all-my-brain-cells-go new soundcloud upload
Beardog 12.04.18	boring tbh
artiswar 12.04.18	The break at 2:00 is really awkward. I would not make the beat pop so much, I would filter it with reverb and maybe a touch of delay. Pretty chill tune though.
BlacKapes 12.04.18	ok for real imma give you actual advice rather than sucks because you're getting unnecessary constructive criticism from an annoying dickhead who probably has shit music too if he even makes music - no offense Dickwinged if you think something is great then put it out there and fuck everyone's opinions, all subjective anyway. worse that happens is it doesn't resonate with many people and no one revisits it. who the fuck cares, stop doing music to impress other people or for some sort of ego boost because if that's the only thing you care about you're in it for the wrong reasons. plus i'm sure someone besides you MIGHT like it. just do what you want
BlacKapes 12.04.18	it's not like anyone really cares about your music as much as you do anyway. not like Dickwing sat there and worked on, nigga probably listened to it once or twice and wrote that. i thought it sucked too but only listened to it once, so why you gotta put so much stock in other people's opinions
artiswar 12.04.18	lmao way to undercut your inspirational speech jeez
veninblazer 12.04.18	"Dickwing" yikes
Deathconscious 12.04.18	If it was unnecessary, how is it constructive criticism as you yourself called it, dipshit.
veninblazer 12.04.18	this^
DungeonBoy 12.04.18	If you post an article called "put out a new song" on a music website you are opening yourself up to constructive criticism whether you want it or not.
iglu 12.04.18	what blackapes said, just keep doing the music you like
artiswar 12.04.18	I don't think he was complaining about criticism unless I missed something
BlacKapes 12.04.18	nah it was an attempt at constructive criticism from someone who isn't worth shit in life. fuck that nigga
veninblazer 12.04.18	yikes
Dewinged 12.05.18	yeah fuck that dickwing guy
Beardog 12.05.18	yeah what a dick
Deathconscious 12.05.18	@black Dewi is one of the nicest users on the site, you come off as a 16 year old little shithead. Guess who's more disposable.
Dewinged 12.05.18	Oh wait Dickwing is me! Unacceptable!
osmark86 12.05.18	Dewinged gave some great constructive criticism here. @sugarcubes: continue man. if I go back and listen to some of the shit I used to make a couple of years ago I can really see how much better I have gotten. sometimes you can use that perspective to give yourself a little boost. the best tip I can think of write now is listen to the tracks you make together with reference tracks that achieve the sound that you are looking for. that way you can notice what is lacking and try to improve on those areas. for example, if the vocals are really dry sounding on your material but you hear these really well-produced vocals on a track you love, try researching how that was achieved and try that out. believe me, you'll learn a lot by seeing how other people solve these mixing problems. In terms of songwriting, just show some riffs to someone you trust and see if it holds up or if something could be changed. also try listening to how your favourite bands are constructing their songs. what are the riffs like? how is the composition structured etc. always learn and get inspired and you'll soon notice yourself improving naturally. it may feel like you suck now and that it is discouraging, but man, music is a lifetime journey of learning. do not get discouraged by that. be inspired by the fact that you have so much to learn and so much room to improve. that's where the fun is.
osmark86 12.05.18	to give you an example (at least of improvement in terms of production which I've progressively gotten better at with time): old song from years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDULWIkUYE fairly new song: https://gasparpoet.bandcamp.com/track/cosmetic-ordo-enhancement
sugarcubes 12.06.18	https://soundcloud.com/iamifno/trapped-in-the-sound new song i might do something with if it’s decent lol i’m just going to post everything
Beardog 12.06.18	If you are fully happy with it, sure go ahead. Don't become Black Malachyte though pls
sugarcubes 12.06.18	pfft i meant more “posting more songs to soundcloud”
Beardog 12.06.18	The thing that I said still counts for that as well though haha
sugarcubes 12.06.18	yeah true i’m listening to everyone here by the way