Ryus
04.18.22 | lets do this |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.18.22 | vaguely promising start
melodeath is a reasonable popcorn genre though so only 3 for 4 hmmm the stakes are raised |
Ryus
04.18.22 | i'll take it |
Havey
04.18.22 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ehDMyTy7A |
TheSpirit
04.18.22 | djent is f-tier |
Ryus
04.18.22 | if it were a sput genre then yes it would be
havey that is extremely cursed |
Storm In A Teacup
04.18.22 | Post hardcore is 1 agreed |
CottonSalad
04.18.22 | Subscribed |
dedex
04.18.22 | ye boiii |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | Djent is a confirmed upcoming genre tag
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/blog/2022/03/10/new-hires-genre-tags-and-site-updates/ |
Josh D.
04.18.22 | I agree with most of this. Heavy metal as an entry is too broad of a genre though. |
LeddSledd
04.18.22 | quality list so far
wonder if post-rock deserves so low a place because of all the first- and second-wave albums that are choice, but I haven't heard enough crescendocore to really despise it |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.18.22 | living through the early 10s as a post-rock fan was one of the most retrospectively depressing things i can think of
can abide crescendocore hatred, but i'm not convinced by this categorisation of LS/spiderland/hex as "outliers". there are plenty of (good!) artists who bridge the gap between them and the genre as it ultimately panned out. would also loosely categorise transient random-noise bursts... as post-rock, so that's checkmate to ryus
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z00sh
04.18.22 | everything in f-tier is correct. good list. |
LeddSledd
04.18.22 | yeye Dirty Three and other such folksy acts should boost post rock's standing I think |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | I hope this list has some very hot takes, stuff that will make me mad |
Havey
04.18.22 | im already pissed! |
Cygnatti
04.18.22 | good list so far |
Havey
04.18.22 | rym genres ranked |
Cygnatti
04.18.22 | part 27/492 |
bludngorevidal
04.18.22 | keasbey nights is pop punk? coulda fooled me. in any case, classic fucking album |
Ryus
04.18.22 | on sput it is, at least. im comfortable labeling it as such
|
ArsMoriendi
04.18.22 | 1st wave and 2nd wave ska don't really deserve that low rating but I guess 3rd wave kinda is what the term is associated with most noww so uhh idk
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AlexKzillion
04.18.22 | you didn't make metalcore last so this is already better than ars's i give this list an a+ |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | There are a couple wrenches but you are doing ok so far |
Sinternet
04.18.22 | folk punk rules when you haven't taken a shower in three days, just needs the right mindset |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | Keasbey Nights is not pop punk, but Catch 22's later records do go into pop punk, which is why they're tagged as such |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | The fact that country is going to be higher than some of the ones already listed is the most glaringly horrific feat |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Also having mu metal over stoner rock is woof |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9tsRFv_H5o |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | I've been getting into a lotta old-timey country a la merle haggard and honestly it beats most sputcore by a wide margin |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | https://youtube.com/watch?v=owjk4T9dxVs |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Im not saying it needs to be lower than some of these I’m just saying it is just as E-F |
Ryus
04.18.22 | "Also having mu metal over stoner rock is woof"
weed is evil, kids
"I've been getting into a lotta old-timey country a la merle haggard and honestly it beats most sputcore by a wide margin"
correct |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | honestly the only f-tier genre on this list I actually have heard more than 5 minutes of is pop punk, so I don't really have much of an opinion on that end |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | check lead belly |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | You could really simplify this process by just going..
F - all the metal and punk and country genres
E - remaining guitar genres
A - everything else |
z00sh
04.18.22 | prog metal should be much lower |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | You heard it here folks, EDM is A tier |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | its up there |
Ryus
04.18.22 | thats not a genre here but if it were then yeah itd be A tier |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | honestly I find that stuff kinda numbing, would be mid tier at best if I made a list |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGFNEFdEvIA |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | Your link makes me wonder, hey Ryus what are your thoughts on emo trap? |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ofKL-TZZeE |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Edm isn’t a genre and if you think otherwise you are an f tier music listener |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV-nBg4mjpY |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | tiers are a spook anyway so it really makes no difference |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Bruhh I can’t be out here copy pasting 27 unhyperlinked YouTube links with no context, 99% of the population is far too lazy for that |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | just watch me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | I AM watching |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | brb gonna report you to Jom daddy |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | (Not the videos tho) |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | report me to youre mom |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Sowing it is |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | not without a kiss on the lips 😘 |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2irwLIy2ZEs |
neekafat
04.18.22 | i mean, you got the bottom three right at least |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.18.22 | paramore stans ragging on pop punk my sides |
CottonSalad
04.18.22 | If this list is wrong, I don't wanna be right |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.18.22 | you have never wanted to be right |
budgie
04.18.22 | but unquestionable presence isnt prog metal and milo goes to college isnt pop punk |
Ryus
04.18.22 | unquestionable presence is def prog metal
milo goes to college is arguably not pop punk, yeah. the only two albums that i liked enough to list are borderline which is why it is F-tier
no more genre quibbles allowed or im banning you all |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Honestly thrash should be lower if anything |
CottonSalad
04.18.22 | "you have never wanted to be right"
u knows me |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | Ryus, what are your thoughts on emo trap? |
Ryus
04.18.22 | it can be quite good |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | I wanna see sowing do this it would be like “I’ve only heard three but indie folk and country all rule!” |
Sinternet
04.18.22 | "Edm isn’t a genre and if you think otherwise you are an f tier music listener"
this is true, but when i see artists getting tagged with edm it helps me avoid them so to that end its useful |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | It’s useful in a lot of ways, not only does it help identify the lowest common denominator of several electronic genres but it also helps identify the lowest common denominator of electronic music listeners, and festivals too. So it not only helps avoid music like the plague, but also people and places 😂 |
Ryus
04.18.22 | what about Festival Progressive House |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Jesus Christ rym is really nosediving on the sub genre cred these days |
theBoneyKing
04.18.22 | Country or Americana better be at least top 20 or I’m divorcing you |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | Florida Georgia Line > Brand New |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.18.22 | yall can bandwagon all day about inbred grandma country, but sputcore country literally sounds tailored for the most insufferable kinds of brand new fans |
GhandhiLion
04.18.22 | So it this based on stuff that charts and doesn't have 5 ratings? |
Ryus
04.18.22 | boney i need to take the bad with the good so uh…its not looking too good for country |
Ryus
04.18.22 | “ So it this based on stuff that charts and doesn't have 5 ratings?” my holistic methods are a secret |
Snake.
04.18.22 | "death to crescendocore"
why u do this to me |
GhandhiLion
04.18.22 | based |
rockarollacola
04.18.22 | dear god this list is awful |
ffs
04.18.22 | cute pick 63 |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | The biggest travesty is that Ryus is gonna put metalcore on a relatively high place
worst genre tbh |
Dedes
04.18.22 | Melodeath slaps you brainlet |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.18.22 | yeah thrash metal way too high |
SteakByrnes
04.18.22 | ryus check your gotdang shoutbox |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | Question: what is "sputcore country"? I only know Orville Peck and Chris Stapleton, both of whom aren't too different from most other country sonically |
CottonSalad
04.18.22 | Jazz Fusion is already too high. Disappoint.
don't @ me |
theBoneyKing
04.18.22 | I guess that’s fair Ryus though I would take more of a “volume of good material” approach myself.
God I WISH there were Sputcore country. I guess some recent examples like Honey Harper and CMAT might count but that’s about it. |
z00sh
04.18.22 | thrash too high [2] |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | Jazz fusion is the least interesting genre ever, it's jazz without the bite over half the time, and that makes me sad because I love jazz |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | "God I WISH there were Sputcore country"
this is pretty much how I feel, there are country artists with indie cred, like those I mentioned earlier, Kacey Musgraves, and Sturgill Simpson, but they hardly ever show up on lists or get talked about compared to your Brand News or Deftoneses |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Jazz fusion is vastly better than any alt, indie, metal, rock, or country genre |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | when it's good yes
but so much of it is mid that I can't trust the tag when I see it |
theBoneyKing
04.18.22 | Yeah, even when a country artist gains some traction here it's usually just with the same subset of users who generally appreciate some stuff in the genre, it never seems to totally blow up. Kacey and Sturgill have a lot of fans here but are also big artists in general outside Sput so idk if they count. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | @shark yeah but the music industry is so over saturated these days that that can be said of literally any genre tbf |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | I wonder if there is anything folk as a whole can do to innovate and avoid stagnating as hard as metal and rock have |
Ryus
04.18.22 | "Jazz Fusion is already too high. Disappoint."
i like the jazz fusion i've heard, but it's probably one of the genres i know the least about therefore i am holding back any potential vitriol/high praise for it. it should fall somewhere in the middle tiers |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | Folk's a broad genre, I think the best it can do is embrace more international sounds a la worldbeat, or lesser covered scenes that haven't gotten big up to this point. Either one would definitely freshen things up at least for the english speaking music world |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | I’m talking like mainline white people hipster folkfest folk and even indie folk, not the billions of actually interesting world folk subgenres. Regardless I think you are correct to say that displaying international folk style influence would be a good direction. Especially since the type of folk I’m talking about is so intimate and vocal / guitar driven, less ethnocentric play styles and instrumentation could do wonders to zest that bitch up |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Season that shit |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.18.22 | "what is "sputcore country"?"
was mainly referring to ruston kelly, but kacey/sturgill/honey harper would defs qualify too |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Aka coachella country |
hal1ax
04.18.22 | thrash too high [69] |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | drum n bass is my fav edm |
evilford
04.18.22 | Subscribed [2]
Melodeath is pretty low yea |
evilford
04.18.22 | As it should be * |
AsleepInTheBack
04.18.22 | List is already a hearty mix of fake news and straight facts pos |
ArsMoriendi
04.18.22 | Tbh no genres I love have showed up yet, so I’d say list is cool so far |
Mort.
04.18.22 | 10/10 list |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.18.22 | bluegrass over blues, u are weird |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | white* |
Ryus
04.18.22 | weird maybe, white no
i am already bracing for the backlash of my country placement |
IsisScript80
04.18.22 | Nnngh. Britpop… Fuckin’ F- |
ArsMoriendi
04.18.22 | WHOA industrial is way too low |
Ryus
04.18.22 | industrial is right where it belongs thank you very much
i kinda wish i excluded the big genre categories |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | check throbbing gristle |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | Bros remember, it's personal taste
some people don't like certain genres, it is what it is |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Bruh this is Sputnik |
Ryus
04.18.22 | whichever staffer unfeatured this, i'm coming for your staff tag |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | yea, and it's always been the goofiest part of sputnik
like no billy, nobody thinks you're special because you listen to ambient music |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Which staffers fav genre did you F? |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | half of em lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | @shark I’m not saying it’s not goofy I’m saying it’s unavoidable, we all have PHD’s in musicology here might as well just embrace the shit-talk |
CottonSalad
04.18.22 | Hobo Johnson @ 1 incoming |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.18.22 | there are enough crusty metal pies in the staff ranks that y'all can take your guess
or maybe someone misclicked, which should q frankly warrant a demotion
refeatured until further notice (!) |
Avagantamos
04.18.22 | eminem drags the genre of hip hop from S tier down to A, leaving IDM as the only S tier genre |
rabidfish
04.18.22 | check out the skatalites for the true ska experience. It's jammin |
Ryus
04.18.22 | "eminem drags the genre of hip hop from S tier down to A"
u might be on to something here. no spoilers though
"check out the skatalites for the true ska experience. It's jammin" sounds cool |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC8mfIOcpMc |
Ryus
04.18.22 | @mystery staffer
unfeature me again and i will come to the sputnikmusic.com headquarters and burn all of your folk punk CDs |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | it was me :]
i did that [: |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.18.22 | Plz don’t put idm as S tier |
Avagantamos
04.18.22 | my prediction is b tier on this list |
botb
04.18.22 | Bottom 3 are bottom 3 yes |
LeddSledd
04.18.22 | he has two BoC albums albums 5'd, idm will probs be A tier |
CottonSalad
04.18.22 | "in a silent way" is goated [2]
Agreed regardless ;] |
Ryus
04.18.22 | keep up the guesses
all shall be revealed soon |
parksungjoon
04.18.22 | nu metal s tier |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | Ryus is gonna put lo-fi at the top due to his obsession with anime girls |
Ryus
04.18.22 | excuse me |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.18.22 | don't ever put toe in the same boredom boat as ttng again plz thank |
SharkTooth
04.18.22 | you heard me bich |
Ryus
04.18.22 | toe regrettably have put themselves in that boat. lmk when they paddle to shore and get out of it |
Ryus
04.19.22 | it's getting rough out here |
evilford
04.19.22 | Errybody is a kritik |
pizzamachine
04.19.22 | Your face is a critic |
budgie
04.19.22 | classical below country eep 🐧 |
Ryus
04.19.22 | yea thats right |
theBoneyKing
04.19.22 | Americana below country is mildly surprising since Americana is basically “country but just the good stuff” (if I had to make a very overly simplistic description of it) but honestly fair placement for each (even if both are obviously top 5-10 for me). |
evilford
04.19.22 | I swear ryus if you put dm below s-tier I'm filing for divorce |
GhandhiLion
04.19.22 | do it |
rabidfish
04.19.22 | country is a more noble genre, americana is a liar genre for cowards. |
GhandhiLion
04.19.22 | based and a fact |
theBoneyKing
04.19.22 | This is kind of true about Americana but I still accept it because the music is good. Those who hide behind Americana and don’t accept country too are the cowards. |
z00sh
04.19.22 | metalcore will be #1
calling it now |
budgie
04.19.22 | "Americana is basically “country but just the good stuff”"
this is legit lol |
budgie
04.19.22 | "Americana is basically “country but just the good stuff”"
this is legit lol |
SharkTooth
04.19.22 | "Americana is basically “country but just the good stuff”"
this is legit lol |
Space Jester
04.19.22 | This one isn’t any better than Ars’s sorry
Ok I actually read it and it’s a lot better than his |
SharkTooth
04.19.22 | idk man it's nowhere near as inflammatory
what's the point of a list like this if you're not looking to make people upset? |
widowslaugh123
04.19.22 | Rnb sucks so does reggae and metal |
widowslaugh123
04.19.22 | Folk punk is the worst genre ever tho good job |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Ars a neurodiv give him a break |
Space Jester
04.19.22 | I think I might be too I like Sonic the Hedgehog |
AsleepInTheBack
04.19.22 | I thought I featured this wut |
DoofDoof
04.19.22 | The bottom 4 here is very accurate
Think if I did this list a lot would end up C tier with about 10 genres only in the negative pool below…can find a fair amount I like in most genres |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.19.22 | this got unfeatured again? |
CottonSalad
04.19.22 | Dissension Drama! |
Ryus
04.19.22 | "Think if I did this list a lot would end up C tier with about 10 genres only in the negative pool below…can find a fair amount I like in most genres"
yeah my b-tier is looking very large |
DoofDoof
04.19.22 | A tier - indie rock, alt rock, country, folk, americana, (+ slowcore?, maybe)
B tier - rock (so broad), hip hop (so broad), electronic (so broad), indie folk, IDM, drum n bass, ambient (I respect the pie), downtempo, trip hop, experimental (I respect the pie), psychedelic (I respect the pie), grunge, hard rock, noise rock, lo-fi, post rock, punk, post punk, dream pop, shoegaze, (+ garage rock)
C tier - everything else, except...
D tier - r n' b (some older stuff is solid, a lot of the rest I don't like), emo (sometimes the influence is good, on its own can be the worst), folk punk (some is acceptable but generally no), garage (the mainstream 90s stuff...my wife loves it hmmm, and I guess some nostalgia, but mainly no, prefer d n b and dubstep but some is ok), prog metal (some great stuff here but as a whole genre no), melodic death metal (some good albums but again as a genre not enough I like)
E tier - metalcore, grind (as an influence often good, not digging too many 'grind albums'), (+ disco)
F tier - pop punk (nearly all trash), power metal |
DoofDoof
04.19.22 | Jazz is maybe creeping up on B tier for me too
A few metal genres are unlucky not to rate as B tier |
Pikazilla
04.19.22 | pop punk is definitely bottom tier |
garas
04.19.22 | > "traditional doom metal sucks"
Stopped reading after this point... |
Ryus
04.19.22 | u cant run from the truth |
ArsMoriendi
04.19.22 | Seeing emo ranked just above funk hurts my soul, not gonna lie (pun intended) |
SharkTooth
04.19.22 | The truth is the only good genre is lofi hip hop radio - beats to relax/study to |
Ryus
04.19.22 | we've cracked the a-tier folks |
AsleepInTheBack
04.19.22 | A-tier do be looking tasty. |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.19.22 | yeah A-tier is aight, though underground dream pop is one of the most hit or miss mehscapes I can think of |
Ryus
04.19.22 | i've learned where to look for my dream pop fix and it has frequently worked out for me |
Storm In A Teacup
04.19.22 | I just subscribe to ambition on youtube for dream pop mixes |
GhandhiLion
04.19.22 | metalcore is a D/ low C let's be real |
Ryus
04.19.22 | it is, in fact, not |
Ryus
04.19.22 | top 10 ranking incoming. place your predictions below |
Havey
04.19.22 | we have made it to the A-tier. we're starting it off with trip-hop
|
JohnnyoftheWell
04.19.22 | Folk top 3 house top 5 hip-hop #6 |
Ryus
04.19.22 | havey i know you are seething with rage about classical being in C-tier but please compose yourself |
SharkTooth
04.19.22 | putting metalcore in A tier upsets me therefore it's the best thing about this list |
Havey
04.19.22 | well classical is not a genre so it should be in E tier! |
GhandhiLion
04.19.22 | based |
Demon of the Fall
04.19.22 | Trance seems controversially high, like maybe I should put aside my reservations and dig deeper into it rather than just assume it sucks like the complete moron I undoubtedly am |
budgie
04.19.22 | wait
classical era art music
thats a genre probably right
|
JohnnyoftheWell
04.19.22 | ryus is doss trance or house |
AlexKzillion
04.19.22 | "yall can bandwagon all day about inbred grandma country, but sputcore country literally sounds tailored for the most insufferable kinds of brand new fans"
rip my yogurt |
Ryus
04.19.22 | @johnny that doss EP from last year is sugary sweet house from what i remember. the first EP is trance |
Tundra
04.19.22 | Djent best genre |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.19.22 | Okay yup mainly meant the first one and good hooray |
Ryus
04.19.22 | djent would be F-tier
the rest of the S tier and S+ tier coming soon |
Colton
04.19.22 | every Frank Turner album is than Loveless. and I truly from the bottom of my heart wish I was joking |
Demon of the Fall
04.19.22 | nice dm vs mdm take
good djent take
adding substance to some of the weirder picks |
evilford
04.19.22 | Ayyyy dm s-tier let's go |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | “ think I might be too I like Sonic the Hedgehog”
Just checked an instagram adhd page and can confirm this is a symptom |
Avagantamos
04.19.22 | trance over idm is super cringe |
ArsMoriendi
04.19.22 | Idk you can actually dance to trance
I think Ryus is onto something |
Avagantamos
04.19.22 | if you can't dance to idm you just didn't try hard enough |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | If you can’t dance to idm you just don’t dance intelligently enough |
Avagantamos
04.19.22 | prediction:
1. electronic
2. hip hop
3. techno
4. house
5. folk
6. psychedelic |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Damn ryus I was gonna say you were doing a good job with the metal genres until you placed death metal |
someone
04.19.22 | post-punk anywhere below A-tier would have been unacceptable. good on you |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Woah nvm metalcore is way too high too |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Post punk is the only good post |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | All the other ones make me feel postmortem |
kevbogz
04.19.22 | so basically the best genres are ur pie chart |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Who would have seen that coming |
ArsMoriendi
04.19.22 | That’s kinda how it works yeah |
kevbogz
04.19.22 | :surprisedpikachu
imagine having gaze in ur pie might as well go to ur roof and let the world know u get no bitches |
kevbogz
04.19.22 | also prog should be f tier |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Agreed showgaze is like z-tier |
kevbogz
04.19.22 | “ my bloody valentine may be the best rock band of all time, but there's still a ton more amazing shoegaze out there beyond them. if underground dream pop was good, underground shoegaze is amazing.”
imagine ur at a party and someone has the audacity to say this to ur face |
ArsMoriendi
04.19.22 | Almost everyone who shits on prog has like 20 favorite prog albums
They’re just all before 1985
|
kevbogz
04.19.22 | ya man and tool is god’s gift to earth |
ArsMoriendi
04.19.22 | Oh no, Tool sucks, I meant like Yes, King Crimson, and Floyd |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Like Name 5 shoegaze bands
They don’t even have to be good
In fact I guarantee they will suck |
ArsMoriendi
04.19.22 | Deerhunter kinda counts you liked them at one point Potsy |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Dream pop is better and dream pop is only good when it bleeds into other superior genres |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Does deerhunter count? Deerhunter is… ok. I like a couple songs |
kevbogz
04.19.22 | my bloody valentine and bands that wanna be my bloody valentine |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | God knows why they’d even want to be |
pjquinones747
04.19.22 | yeah good list. i listen to half the shit from F to C and i can still agree that the genres overall are garbage. |
SharkTooth
04.19.22 | there's 3 shoegaze bands I really like
Spacemen 3
Spiritualized
The Brian Jonestown Massacre
The thing that mainly appeals to me is they're also psych rock
also hot take: Slowdive sucks |
Havey
04.19.22 | "prediction:
1. electronic"
idk, electro swing exists |
SharkTooth
04.19.22 | How did it even take off? it's like swing music but made for minecraft lets players |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Yeah I’d hardly call any of those pure shoegaze by any means, especially Brian Jonestown massacre |
Ryus
04.19.22 | "imagine ur at a party and someone has the audacity to say this to ur face"
i am not socially inept enough to ever say something that embarrassing in public |
ArsMoriendi
04.19.22 | It don’t mean a thing if it ain’t got that swing bleep bloop blapp
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ArsMoriendi
04.19.22 | Also dream pop > shoegaze agreed
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Ryus
04.19.22 | "Damn ryus I was gonna say you were doing a good job with the metal genres until you placed death metal "
death metal is the chad version of metal. it is good |
Ryus
04.19.22 | "Almost everyone who shits on prog has like 20 favorite prog albums
They’re just all before 1985"
this is true that's why i had to put it in the very respectable b-tier |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Perhaps it is the Chad of metal, but Chad is cringe |
SharkTooth
04.19.22 | Bitches need to get on that sigma male grindset
also also I've found half of the death metal people rave so much about is boring |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | It’s definitely the most monotonous metal genre imo
That doesn’t make it the worst however, as I’ll take dull monotony over cringe-death inducing kitsch but it’s like, pretty smack dab in the middle of metal imo |
Pon
04.19.22 | Death metal S-tier gud list m/ |
SharkTooth
04.19.22 | imo thrash metal > death metal |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | That’s a tough one they are both pretty awful and specialize in some of the worst guitar tones known to man |
Pon
04.19.22 | Thrash is a bit too *looks over shoulder for Casavir* restrictive stylistically |
evilford
04.19.22 | Both rule agreed |
kevbogz
04.19.22 | do people actually like death metal as much as they say or is it all some game that i’m not apart of |
evilford
04.19.22 | Dm slaps for weeks man |
Egarran
04.19.22 | How drunk were you when you made this? |
Ryus
04.19.22 | stone cold sober baby
maybe ill finish it up after i celebrate my last day classes tomorrow. then youll really see what drunk ryusposting is like |
budgie
04.19.22 | dm at S tier but thrash at D tier is poser af sry |
evilford
04.19.22 | I mean tbf dm is comfortably better than thrash |
Ryus
04.19.22 | thrash is like dm but without any of the cojones so why would i listen to it |
evilford
04.19.22 | Can't please em all ryus |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Pretty sure ryus is onto something considering how cojone-less all two of the other genres budgie listens to are |
Mort.
04.19.22 | dont see bingo gazingo anywhere |
Egarran
04.19.22 | >Jazz fusion is vastly better than any alt, indie, metal, rock, or country genre
This was funny |
Ryus
04.19.22 | potsy needs some hank williams in his life tbh |
budgie
04.19.22 | I mean tbf dm is comfortably better than thrash
😩😩 |
loveisamixtape
04.19.22 | based list |
evilford
04.19.22 | Sorry budgie, ilu but thems the fax |
hal1ax
04.19.22 | BM so low might be unforgivable |
Ryus
04.19.22 | i am trying hal 🥺
one day i believe i will get there |
hal1ax
04.19.22 | mwah
glad to see shoegaze and noise rock so high |
alamo
04.19.22 | 72 is 1 |
SharkTooth
04.19.22 | Bruh half the dm singers sound like they were castrated don't talk about having "cojones" lmao |
SharkTooth
04.19.22 | Duplicate post lol |
Ryus
04.19.22 | actually they sound like they have too much cojones |
Ryus
04.19.22 | genres still remaining:
-electronic
-house
-hip hop
-psychedelic
-techno |
ArsMoriendi
04.19.22 | Psychedelic should be #1
It makes literally every genre ever better by fusing with it |
Ryus
04.19.22 | it does
i almost put folk above it but then i realized that psych folk>folk |
Havey
04.19.22 | 1 is rap |
evilford
04.19.22 | "dm singers" |
Havey
04.19.22 | he's forgetting about the dm rappers |
budgie
04.19.22 | back to it
darkness descends & seven churches both have more balls than any dm!
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JohnnyoftheWell
04.19.22 | Shoegaze higher than dream pop should be a given and is a big pawg nice
Electronic will be 1 or ryus cannot stand! |
SharkTooth
04.19.22 | They're singing, they're using their voices to create musical sounds, it doesn't matter how hard they're growling. You don't need to be Anthony Fantano to recognize that |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | “ otsy needs some hank williams in his life tbh”
Do i?
Do
I
Ryus? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.19.22 | Genuinely curious what evilford would prefer “dm singers” referred to as
Voice curdlers? |
ArsMoriendi
04.19.22 | Screamers?
I mean is screaming singing? |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.19.22 | Is pissing pooing?
Do not dilute the art. |
ArsMoriendi
04.19.22 | @Potsy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lza3NVH6Ig idk do you |
evilford
04.19.22 | Curdlers sounds good yeah
Dm vocalists seems more appropriate to me but maybe its just me. Very rarely if ever do we refer to dm vocals as singing but maybe thats splitting hairs |
evilford
04.19.22 | I dont care one way or the other tbh, the phrase "dm singers" just struck me as humorous |
loveisamixtape
04.19.22 | i mean. it is singing by definition |
evilford
04.19.22 | Ok |
theBoneyKing
04.20.22 | So are your mom’s queefs |
Ryus
04.20.22 | Ok |
budgie
04.20.22 | charmant |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.20.22 | eat fondue budg pudg |
Ryus
04.20.22 | two remain! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | I
Listened to
The first 10 seconds of that hank Williams
Song
It
Sound like kazoo-core |
Ryus
04.20.22 | try being born in the greatest country on earth next time and maybe you will possess the high level of intellect you need to understand hank williams
tbf the one ars rec'd is amongst his most rudimentary/lame |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | I knew it, Ryus does spend his time listening to lo-fi hip hop anime girls |
Ryus
04.20.22 | i wish i did |
Ryus
04.20.22 | just kidding i dont wish that on my worst enemy |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | now I'm imagining someone strapped to a chair clockwork orange style while being forced to watch the livestream
I love it |
JokineAugustus
04.20.22 | Well at least Death Metal is S tier. |
ArsMoriendi
04.20.22 | I went with his big hit cuz it's prob the only song I know by him lol
I mostly like the backups on it, otherwise it's kinda just a twangy blues song |
Ryus
04.20.22 | his sadboi alcoholic cowboy shit is where its at |
theBoneyKing
04.20.22 | You’re really gonna put hip hop in top two (prob number 1) then knock coutnry for having too much bad stuff |
Ryus
04.20.22 | list the bad shit and i'll probably disagree, lol |
Havey
04.20.22 | move it on over is a great hank
fake country fan! |
theBoneyKing
04.20.22 | I mean I don’t actually listen to hip hop but just through cultural immersion I’ve heard plenty of bad shit from/associated with it and Sput only has one genre for it all so it encompasses it all. Imo these things should be based more on volume of good material not balance of good vs bad so I’m just using your logic lol. |
Ryus
04.20.22 | i've already earned that title according to boney so ill take it : [ |
ArsMoriendi
04.20.22 | Eminem, a lot of those modern pop mumble rappers who say skrrrt too much, Machine Gun Kelly, uhhhhhhh |
Ryus
04.20.22 | @boney i mean ofc i gotta consider both the balance and the volume of good material when im doing this, i like the country ive heard a lot but maybe out of ignorance, or maybe just because i havent looked hard enough, i still find myself listening to the same 10 country artists over and over. hip hop's popular shit is a lot less offensive to me than the bottom-end of country, and i listen to waaaaaaay more hip-hop artists so it wins out in both regards |
theBoneyKing
04.20.22 | Gimme the worst fuckin country you can find and I’d still rather listen to that than fuckin idk xxxtentacion. And anyways the worst country is usually the modern stuff that’s trying to be hip hop influenced instead |
Ryus
04.20.22 | "Eminem, a lot of those modern pop mumble rappers who say skrrrt too much, Machine Gun Kelly, uhhhhhhh"
alright you got me with eminem
"a lot of those modern pop mumble rappers who say skrrrt too much" they are mostly good
and MGK is now pop punk so i plead the fifth |
theBoneyKing
04.20.22 | I’m just giving you shit Ryus lol, you do you |
Ryus
04.20.22 | this is serious business
"xxxtentacion" hes great (dont look at my ratings) |
Ryus
04.20.22 | oh wow i dont have anything by him rated. guess i never put myself through that pain |
z00sh
04.20.22 | mgk lmaoo |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | “ try being born in the greatest country on earth next time and maybe you will possess the high level of intellect you need to understand hank williams”
XD |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | What about that Russ fellow that everyone on the internet seems to hate? Is he really as bad as he's hyped up to be? |
Ryus
04.20.22 | i have no idea who that is |
Ryus
04.20.22 | i want to thank yeat for giving me the motivation i needed to get through this |
LeddSledd
04.20.22 | "I’d still rather listen to that than fuckin idk xxxtentacion"
early X actually kinda goes in a braindead Miami kinda way. once he got into emo was when he started to suck colossally |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | I remember melon comparing the guy's lyrics to Hopsin |
ffs
04.20.22 | whew |
Ryus
04.20.22 | tell me im wrong about any of these, you cant |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | (^_^)/music is subjective, so nobody's wrong\(^_^) |
ffs
04.20.22 | thats not a genre. This is a genre *pulls out synthcore* |
Ryus
04.20.22 | i should have put soundtrack at number one for maximum chaos |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | Honestly you should've |
budgie
04.20.22 | "tell me im wrong about any of these, you cant"
techno & house in the top 3 is like bizarro world to me but i respect ur right to be ridiculous |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | Techno is awesome tho, if someone's into that rave shit it makes perfect sense to put techno as a top 3 |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | honestly I just wanna see wwba make a comeback just to post a tier list that makes everyone upset |
Dedes
04.20.22 | While I'm still moderately triggered over that melodeath take I must say
Immolation is sweet fucking dm pick and you've redeemed yourself
Also metalcore is p goat and a lot more diverse that I think it sometimes gets credit for |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | Good top 5 |
Casavir
04.20.22 | Both progressive metal and thrash metal should be at least in B-tier. Heavy metal and power metal also have comical placing, should be at least C-tier. |
budgie
04.20.22 | s tier has only room for one genre and that genre is thrash |
kevbogz
04.20.22 | 3 of the basically the same genre in ur top 5. nice take bro |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | Very nice take in fact |
twlight
04.20.22 | cool list |
DoofDoof
04.20.22 | Hip hop and electronic as you said are such broad genres it would have been even more interesting if they were only represented by sub genres.
I guess the cheat is putting hip hop, electronic, experimental, rock, folk, jazz and metal as your top 7…that covers almost everything depending how you define them |
Purpl3Spartan
04.20.22 | Agree with this one a lot more |
dedex
04.20.22 | woah 300+ comments
very - very - cool, hip hop at 1 is hell yeah and house at 2 is hell yeah-er |
AsleepInTheBack
04.20.22 | A very un-sput top 5, save for 1, which is neat. I gots to try more electronic / techno / house things, though I'm not sure I really grasp the difference between the 3. |
Zig
04.20.22 | Classical and Jazz is #1 |
Ryus
04.20.22 | "3 of the basically the same genre in ur top 5. nice take bro"
they arent the same!
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dedex
04.20.22 | electronic = bleep bloop of any sort
techno = boom boom
house = disco but with some boom boom
approximate crash course |
evilford
04.20.22 | Dm would obvs be my #1 hehe but huge props for this list. Lots of solid justification and interesting reading |
evilford
04.20.22 | If anything this list should solidify ryus as an all time goat tier user |
dedex
04.20.22 | wasn't he already? |
evilford
04.20.22 | Gud point |
Ryus
04.20.22 | dedex that would you mean you are a goat-er tier user because you beat me in sput madness :] |
ArsMoriendi
04.20.22 | Ryus, do you hate Violent Femmes first album? |
Demon of the Fall
04.20.22 | I like the bleep bloop and boom boom, but no disco
explains a lot
seriously need to have a House rethink, definitely prioritising this over potentially adjusting my damn Trance biases, lol |
dedex
04.20.22 | aw stop Ryry
yah House rules mega hard |
Ryus
04.20.22 | "Ryus, do you hate Violent Femmes first album?"
i dont remember it at all except blister in the sun, which is okay at best. i have it 2.5'd tho |
CottonSalad
04.20.22 | "arses" |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | @demon trance is a garbage genre in absolute totality and house is a top tier electronic genre so yeah, that should be the priority |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | I haven't really managed to get into house, the modern stuff I've listened to is fine but sounds too much like top 40 pop hits, it's not bad, but it hasn't really clicked with me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | If you are listening to house that sounds like top 40 hits you are listening to the wrong house |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | Other than Frankie Knuckles, top 40 sounding stuff is pretty much all the house I've found |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | Check Hampton the Hampster bro |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | will do
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AlexKzillion
04.20.22 | will we get updated lists when the new tags drop @ars @ryus ??? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | But in all serious I can give a piece of advice. I find it’s always easier to get into a genre if you start with something a bit “diluted”, for me Gold Panda was the artist that helped ease me into house music, even though he can’t be cleanly quantified as house. His album Lucky Shiner is considered Microhouse but he used lots of eastern instruments and sounds and it makes it quite unique. Deep House is also a good sub genre to explore to dip your toes in.
Peep Gold Panda - Lucky Shiner and then peep Fort Romeau - Kingdoms |
Demon of the Fall
04.20.22 | I guess house has so many sub genres / distinct branching styles that apparently I like stuff I didn’t even know was associated with it till a couple of hours ago 🤔
will dig deeper for sure |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | Yeah a lot of electronic sub genres are particularly broad, I thought I hated house for a long time when I was younger just based off what I heard at generic “house” nights at the club but that really isn’t it. But that kinda goes for all genres too, the lowest common denominator mainstream version isn’t going to be very indicative of much of anything |
Ryus
04.20.22 | fort ormeau kingdom rules ahrd
daft punk is also very accessible to dip your toes into the water. or maybe jon hopkins |
Ryus
04.20.22 | "will we get updated lists when the new tags drop @ars @ryus ???"
yes |
SharkTooth
04.20.22 | I'm gonna be real with you, I've never heard the hamster dance song before
Why does it slap so hard? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | Yeah Jon Hopkins is another great entry point.
@shark bruh Hampton is the boi |
Josh D.
04.20.22 | This list started promising and then ended in a dung pile. You have bitten the apple, your time is nigh. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | -a man with post rock as top genre |
Ryus
04.20.22 | lmao |
ArsMoriendi
04.20.22 | I already pretty much did that AlexK but left it on a comment on my thread |
Josh D.
04.20.22 | The oonts squad is 'avin a laff. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
04.20.22 | Oontz gets the poontz
Posts gets the roasts lol zzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzzz |
Josh D.
04.20.22 | damn |
Ryus
04.20.22 | hes right |
Storm In A Teacup
04.21.22 | Ryus, please check out Z-Ro album Cocaine. |
Ryus
04.21.22 | looks promising |
JokineAugustus
04.21.22 | Maybe Mi'Gauss - Open Season will be a melodeath album you actually like. |
oedipusrex
04.30.22 | 4 categories in and already this list triggers me. |
teamster
04.30.22 | Post metal : meh. ‘sad face’ |
Boognish79
04.09.23 | Wow….just….wow. No words. |
MoM
04.09.23 | 75 is 75. I don’t care about the rest, good list |
Ryus
04.09.23 | irredeemable genre agreed |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.09.23 | damn it's been a year
guess it's finally time to do this |
Ryus
04.09.23 | are u gonna do the new genres too though?? |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.09.23 | oh, you bet
which also allows us to reach the happy impasse of this list retaining eternal and unrivalled correctness, but only for the era it pertained to |
unclereich
04.09.23 | I was hoping 7 would be near the bottom |
Ryus
04.09.23 | no!
but if i did this again i would probably move it down a tad
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