LOVEANDACCEPTANCE: breakdowns are the most effective musical tool

LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	perhap
GhandhiLion 05.22.19	hell no
Relinquished 05.22.19	gimme those 1995 djent breakdowns
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	gimme those now I'm gonna sock you in the mouth breakdowns
Relinquished 05.22.19	NO MORE HEADTRIPS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	pantera does have some of the best breakdowns
Relinquished 05.22.19	prob the earliest song I recalled that used a breakdown, never bothered to hear who did em earlier but damn did that song go hard
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	domination might actually be the best breakdown of all time now that I think about it
garas 05.22.19	Lol, no. It's not true, even if we see only metal (and its derivative forms) in general. There are some cool ones, but this statement is not true.
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	you are wrong
ArsMoriendi 05.22.19	Maybe if you're 14.
ArsMoriendi 05.22.19	Also, effective at what? Making me feel angsty?
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	you still think mr bungle is the peak of music idiot you are 14
SymbolicInTime 05.22.19	Effective at ruining tracks quite frequently but ok
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	you literally are STILL named thewondersofar and think you still have the right to type in my direction
SymbolicInTime 05.22.19	Who tf cares enough to actually go through the trouble of changing a username lol
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	the trouble of asking a mod in the thread what an intense fucking task
SymbolicInTime 05.22.19	Not intense but also not really worth trying to figure out how to even get to threads etc. don’t care enough because Uh It’s just a username
alamo 05.22.19	Break It Down Again (tradução) - Tears For Fears - VAGALUMELetra, tradução e música de “Break It Down Again“ de Tears For Fears - Quando está tudo confuso / É melhor dar um tempo / No mundo dos segredos / No ...
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	"not really worth trying to figure out how to even get to threads" hahshahahahshahahshsjsjjsjwjsjwhahahaha
SymbolicInTime 05.22.19	Been around for 6 years and have never once had a reason to use them so why start lol
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	yea sorry you have not been on the site 6 years never having been on the threads
BreakfastCat 05.22.19	I agree with this list
Egarran 05.22.19	good thread guys
SymbolicInTime 05.22.19	https://www.sputnikmusic.com/user/tylerlamberg This is my og account. yea sorry you have no idea what you’re talking about
geezers1989 05.22.19	OP is absolutely correct
Deathconscious 05.22.19	This explains a lot of your shit taste, thank you for the insight.
BreakfastCat 05.22.19	think my earliest breakdown memory is love lost in a hail of gunfire by bleeding through. changed me.
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	adolf you know I'm still in driving distance, hit me with the addy you ever wanna get smacked around never checked bleeding through tbh, will get on that
Deathconscious 05.22.19	Sure thing, babyboy.
accompliceofmydeath 05.22.19	No breakdowns? Not music.
Space Jester 05.22.19	Bleeding Through sucks, you’ll probably dig
Sinternet 05.22.19	DJUN DJUN DJUN DJUN FUCK YOU MUM DJUN DJUN DJUN DJUN I DON'T WANNA GO TO SCHOOL DJUN DJUN
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	hey I love that song
ArsMoriendi 05.22.19	"you still think mr bungle is the peak of music idiot you are 14" Says the guy who 5's The Mars Volta, which is just as genre hoppy, but instead annoyingly whiny
ktjammin 05.22.19	Absolutely correct opinion
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.22.19	and by whiny you mean actually vocally talented and melodically exceptional, yea
sixdegrees 05.22.19	polka interludes and slide whistle are much more powerful forms of expression agreed hard ars
Space Jester 05.22.19	The Mars Volta >>> Mr. Bungle Not that clarification was needed
Avagantamos 05.22.19	the first breakdown I heard was The Saddest Day and no breakdown has came close to that since, so overall breakdowns have been a disappointment to me
JustJoe. 05.23.19	I prefer Bungle over The Volta.
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	"vocally talented and melodically exceptional, yea" Imagine thinking Mike Patton isn't vocally talented. The dude can and has sung opera even.
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	"polka interludes and slide whistle are much more powerful forms of expression agreed hard ars" Band has covered 50+ styles of music, but sure let's focus on the 2 goofiest they've done to make some non-point
sixdegrees 05.23.19	joke band?
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	If you can't tell the difference between a band with a sense of humor like Mr. Bungle and an actual joke band, then you're just willfully ignorant Who am I kidding? You already know the difference, you're just an elitist who thinks the only acceptable sense of humor is being an asshole
sixdegrees 05.23.19	are they supposed to be a comedy act
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	If your trolling is going to be this lazy, my responses will also be: You already know the difference, you're just an elitist who thinks the only acceptable sense of humor is being an asshole
sixdegrees 05.23.19	didnt they make fun of the guy from RHCP's heroin addiction lol guess that is a pretty successful brand of humor
TheSpaceMan 05.23.19	Mr. Bungle is a clown name
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	That was after Anthony Kiedis demanded that Mr. Bungle be kicked off a festival setlist for having too similar an album title to RHCP's, so Bungle did that as a fuck you to Kiedis Not saying it's right, but it's not like they did it for no reason
sixdegrees 05.23.19	so you agree that it was a good bit
TheSpaceMan 05.23.19	i think he's saying the sketch was justified, if not a bit underwhelming
sixdegrees 05.23.19	hmmm sounds pretty asshole-ish I dunno, kinda fucked up
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	Honestly, less assholish than kicking someone off a festival setlist And I just did some research and Kiedis had them kicked off not one, but three different festivals before they did that skit Kiedis's response to their skit? Getting them kicked from a 4th festival Pretty sure Kiedis was a WAY bigger asshole here and the agressor
sixdegrees 05.23.19	did you think it was a good bit though
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	Nah, it was petty Not really seeing your point though... a band does a petty thing once as retaliation and this has to do with them on the whole how?
sixdegrees 05.23.19	just seems like for a "band with a sense of humor"....their sense of humor is questionable
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	Yeah man, one petty joke that isn't on their albums ruins an entire band catalog, totally Just like 1 unfunny joke during a stand-up comedian's routine makes that comedian automatically awful
sixdegrees 05.23.19	thought they weren't a comedy act hmmm...surely their sense of humor shouldn't make or break their catalog if that's the case
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	Literally my point, it doesn't affect it at all
sixdegrees 05.23.19	good thing no one made that argument huh
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	What is your point, then? What does their 1999 "fuck you Anthony Kiedis" bit have do to with anything?
R4zor3dge 05.23.19	Not when they're overused
hal1ax 05.23.19	i fuck with this list tortellini
sixdegrees 05.23.19	I'm trying to puzzle out when "being an asshole for humor" is acceptable according to your standards
hal1ax 05.23.19	breakdowns >>> ars' clown band
sixdegrees 05.23.19	you dont understand they're a satire of a novelty act
Tyler. 05.23.19	hey ars what, in your expert opinion, is the comedy value of fetal alcohol syndrome? im just trying to undersand what u mean here
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	"ars' clown band" My clown band? As if I'm anywhere near the only one who likes Mr. Bungle. All 3 of their albums have 4+ averages with over 900 votes (over 1,500 with a 4.4 average for California.) It's not like thinking that they're great is even close to controversial. I know you guys are just fucking with me because you're bored, but seriously your arguments aren't even good
sixdegrees 05.23.19	they're a subversion of a clown circus act....its multi layered
sixdegrees 05.23.19	ah yes the appeal to popularity defense
hal1ax 05.23.19	ars i need some advice: my friend's band got dropped from the set list at a local music festival coming up. can i go ahead and give him the green light on disparaging the booking agent's wife who is dying of cancer?? thx!!! :]
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	This is stupid, I already said what they did was bad But keep on ignoring it for whatever shit argument you keep trying to make
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	"ah yes the appeal to popularity defense" Literally, I said that because hal1ax was trying to make it seem like they're a "me" thing rather than a popular group among people on Sputnik, appeal to popularity makes no sense here as a criticism
sixdegrees 05.23.19	interesting that you seemed to think that was a serious argument on his part that needed to be defended with statistics
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	"they're a subversion of a clown circus act....its multi layered" They're literally just a band who likes incorporating a ton of different styles mashed together. Mr. Bungle isn't trying to be deep, I never see Mr. Bungle fans act like they're deep, I'm not trying to argue that they're deep. Who are you arguing against?
sixdegrees 05.23.19	what do mr. bungle call their tour van? the clown car
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	There's a clown on their first album, so? Is clown imagery inherently bad?
sixdegrees 05.23.19	would you describe them as a clown band?
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	No. Is Ride a Cucumber Face Mask band?
sixdegrees 05.23.19	whats that
hal1ax 05.23.19	ars how much influence did your clown band draw from bozo the clown??? feel free to present your answer in the form of high school level statistics
sixdegrees 05.23.19	I'd say a band that tells jokes on stage and employs clown imagery and circus music could reasonably be described as a "clown band"
JohnnyoftheWell 05.23.19	Mr Bungle have breakdowns. can we be happy again?
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	What's what? Ride? A band you have an album 5'd by or a cucumber face mask? The image on their sophomore release?
sixdegrees 05.23.19	they actually satirize breakdowns whereas the real thing is for 14 year olds
sixdegrees 05.23.19	not aware of ride devoting any musical or lyrical content to uhhh...cucumber masks
JohnnyoftheWell 05.23.19	true but Goodbye Sober Day still goes hard as fuck
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	"I'd say a band that tells jokes on stage and employs clown imagery and circus music could reasonably be described as a "clown band"" I guess on their debut album, but they didn't do that for the other 2. It was an album specific theme
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	"not aware of ride devoting any musical or lyrical content to uhhh...cucumber masks So you're saying their choice in album covers is arbitrary to the musical content? Sounds lazy and random for the sake of random
sixdegrees 05.23.19	how would you go about incorporating cucumber masks thematically into a multimedia piece of art?
Tyler. 05.23.19	so how much clowning does a band have to put in to be considered an bonafide clown band rather than being lazy and random. does this question make sense
sixdegrees 05.23.19	I really feel like its a theme that could be expanded upon...
JohnnyoftheWell 05.23.19	how many breakdowns does a bonafide clown band have to put in to be considered musically effective
hexfix93 05.23.19	I will never understand peoples' obsessions with breakdowns. Some breakdowns are sick when they're not overused but I mean people legit make compilations of "the most broootal breakdowns" and they all sound the same lmao. I'll take sick riffs and guitar solos over breakdowns all day.
Tyler. 05.23.19	ars is really being clowned on rn LOL
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	"how would you go about incorporating cucumber masks thematically into a multimedia piece of art?" I was kidding, but here's a serious response anyway: that actually wouldn't be hard at all. Just mention it once in the lyrics or something.
sixdegrees 05.23.19	would that make them a "Cucumber Mask band"? or just a band who employ cucumber mask themes
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	Idk you're the one who thinks a band is a "_____ band" if they incorporate some themes into their work, so by your logic...yes, by mine, no
sixdegrees 05.23.19	what about a band that literally plays circus music
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	The Beatles did that on Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!, are they are clown band?
Tyler. 05.23.19	yes?
sixdegrees 05.23.19	I feel like the clown themes weren't really expanded upon on Sgt Peppers
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	There's a clown on the cover of Sgt. Peppers, above George Harrison
sixdegrees 05.23.19	I feel like clown costumes and a live comedy routine would've really sold the clown band aesthetic
YakNips 05.23.19	did sputnikmusic.com user arsmoriendi just go clown mode?
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	Oh looks it's YakNips, a user who used an image of my face on his Bandcamp profile without my permission
sixdegrees 05.23.19	https://townsquare.media/site/443/files/2015/05/MrBungleInterview.jpg?w=980&q=75 zoom enhance
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	From around when their first album came out, yeah, they had it was a theme for 1 album, I said that already
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	Do you think you're above Mr. Bungle and their fans six? Too good for them?
sixdegrees 05.23.19	no i'd be happy to take any circus and/or clown rock recs
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	I don't like them, but Slipknot did the same thing, but for a longer period of time, I guess try them
Tyler. 05.23.19	Can you make a list of some entry level recs please
Dedes 05.23.19	What about that other clown band Mushroomhead yeah try them
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	Sure! 1."This Joke Needs to Die" from their album Iowa 2."Why Is Six This Bored?" - from their self titled 3."Ars Should Have Never Replied" - from Vol. 3 The Subliminal Verses
hal1ax 05.23.19	'Oh looks it's YakNips, a user who used an image of my face on his Bandcamp profile without my permission' lmao
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	Oh look it's sach, the guy who thinks we need to violently assault rich people
hal1ax 05.23.19	ars, deferring to your expertise on the matter, what are some stylistic changes--compositionally, instrumentally, etc.-- that can be made by nascent clown or circus music groups so as to afford them better chances of remaining relevant in our modern music landscape? please , serious answers only.
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	"I'm also for violently assaulting people" Maybe don't be for violently assaulting people at all tbh
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	"gonna put on some lederhosen and get down to some fantastic proggin accordion interludes" That's cool, I'm gonna go listen to some songs so drowned in autotune that my ears bleed, and then some harsh noise so my ears bleed even more
Frippertronics 05.23.19	heard y'all were clownin in here
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	Mostly it's the usual suspects ganging up on me
Frippertronics 05.23.19	just stop biting the bait when you clearly know how it's going to go
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	Idk it’s kinda fun go to back at them Also, I feel like I need to clarify that I don’t care about Dr. Who. I saw a couple of the Matt Smith episodes with Amy Pond or whatever years ago (like 5 episodes max? My sister used to be into it), but that’s like it
Tyler. 05.23.19	Lol
J() Alexander 05.23.19	"Oh looks it's YakNips, a user who used an image of my face on his Bandcamp profile without my permission " Simply epic
SitarHero 05.23.19	Breakdowns are the most effective whiting coping strategies too tbh
Ryus 05.23.19	outstanding thread
J() Alexander 05.23.19	Ok but why the fuck would anyone listen to Mr. Bungle when the Moonchild Trio exists like lmao
YakNips 05.23.19	why would anyone listen to mike patton when other musicians exist
J() Alexander 05.23.19	Bro yeah
Deathconscious 05.23.19	"Oh looks it's YakNips, a user who used an image of my face on his Bandcamp profile without my permission" lmao, bad yaknips.
ktjammin 05.23.19	Slipknot rules
JohnnyoftheWell 05.23.19	"Ok but why the fuck would anyone listen to Mr. Bungle when the Moonchild Trio exists like lmao" Why would anyone listen to Moonchild when Naked City exists tho
Eons 05.23.19	Wrong. They're only effective when Converge or Nails do them.
SoulFunction 05.23.19	God damn sixdegrees trolled the fuck out of that guy lmao
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.23.19	"Oh look it's sach, the guy who thinks we need to violently assault rich people" hey, anyone who DOESN'T think this needs to get the fuck out the thread
J() Alexander 05.23.19	Moonchild > Naked City
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.23.19	literal crack smoker
Egarran 05.23.19	What's your drug of choice? I guess alcohol.
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.23.19	alcohol ain't my thing man, aside from an overly fruity outing or 3 every blue moon
Sinternet 05.23.19	clown... clown
Egarran 05.23.19	LOVE totally seems like a guy who would dress up as a scary clown and stand ominously by the roadside.
ArsMoriendi 05.23.19	"hey, anyone who DOESN'T think this needs to get the fuck out the thread" As if anyone who touts this would have to balls to actually do it
Deathconscious 05.23.19	Theyre still young, let them have their naive simple-solution revolution fantasies, i know i did.
LOVEANDACCEPTANCE 05.24.19	you say fantasies like I'm not still directly offering you a fade in person fuck boy
Space Jester 05.24.19	As long as he brings some Chipotle
Ryus 05.24.19	the contents of this thread will adorn the sputnik hall of fame
StrikeOfTheBeast 05.24.19	Breakdowns in metal are either enough to make you spray like a busted fire hydrant or retract like a turtle.
Deathconscious 05.24.19	thats fucking it Futures im coming for you irl and yes you should be scared