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|Underoath: Worst to Best|
Underoath was the first band I became totally obsessed with at nine years old. I first heard When The Sun Still Sleeps at five years old. I blew my voice out trying to scream along to They're Only Chasing Safety at age nine and it took me roughly until I was fifteen to scream again. I was first given They're Only Chasing Safety at age nine when my father didn't like that Underoath did a lot more screaming. He enjoyed Reinventing Your Exit (It was originally demoed as Look Past the Bright Lights when Dallas Taylor was still in the band) and thought the band was more pop-punk. Once he discovered it was metalcore, he gave me the cd and had no issue with the band at the time because they were Christain then. I didn't get into Define the Great Line or Lost In The Sounds of Separation until the beginning of 22. I have at least listen to Define the Great Line a hundred times from the age of 10-14, but then I really started discovering other music at 10. I also didn't understand or grasp Lost In The Sounds of Separation until I grew up and went through some traumatic life events. I didn't listen to the first two albums until I was 17 because it was hard to be able to listen to Act of Depression and Cries of the Past until people started ripping copies of the albums onto Youtube. Only 3,000 copies of each album were originally printed. Up until 2014, you couldn't find a cheap way to listen to those worthless albums. Some fans completely disregard the first three albums Underoath made with Dallas Taylor because Spencer Chamberlin is an infinitely better songwriter/screamer/vocalist/guitarist than Dallas Taylor. The first two albums are horrible black holy metal albums, but I swear the song lengths would go on to influence Deafheaven. But, however you look at them, Underoath is great music to listen to for catharsis or solace.
Act of Depression
Recycled riffs, breakdowns, and repetitiveness throughout every long and inconsistent track on this album. 7 tracks (8, if you include the bonus) make up almost 56 minutes that you will probably want back in your life. None of the songs progress or go anywhere. The only time clean vocals are utilized in this album are to sing about love and Jesus. The lyrics are bland, color-by-the-numbers Christian Metalcore and Black Metal (iffy). This album fucking sucks...
Watch Me Die
Cries of the Past
A slight improvement over Act of Depression, this is the first album with keyboardist Christopher Dudley at the helm. This is also the only album besides Disambiguation by Underoath to not utilize clean vocals by drummer Aaron Gillespie. The album is way less sloppy than Act of Depression, but the band was still trying to cement its sound then. Underoath decided to drift further into black metal, but this is also the first album to utilize keyboard effects and synths as well. Even with these factors considered, the album is only 5 tracks long, but 42 minutes long. This album also lacks in the consistency department and still suffers from repetitiveness and bland lyrics. At least Dallas improved slightly on his screams.
Giving Up Hurts The Most
I want to make it extremely clear how disappointed I am with this shit. When I was listening to interviews before reading or listening to anything about the new album Erase Me or the controversy surrounding the new single On My Teeth, I was expecting this album to be more along the lines of Disambiguation. In fact, there are times where this album sounds like Disambiguation-era Underoath, even though Aaron is now a part of the band again. Those times on the album sadly are limited and sparse. This is Amo 0.5. This is their lightest album by far and their most inconsistent album since Cries of the Past. I think The Changing of Times is better than Erase Me just because of When The Sun Still Sleeps is better than any song off of this album. I do not like Underoath ripping off of BMTH. I do not like how this album at parts feels like a failed solo project by Aaron Gillespie. Fuck the piano.
It Has To Start Somewhere
On My Teeth
The Changing of Times
The first overhaul in the overall sound of Underoath. The Changing of Times has the band going towards a melodic screamo/metalcore sound that was vaguely present on the first two albums. The first album with Timothy McTague, one of the key pivots for the sound development of Underoath over the next four albums until Underoath broke up and reformed. This album is the first listenable Underoath album and is definitely the most commercial-friendly album released during the Dallas Taylor era. Hearing the band starting to embrace their cathartic tendencies and tones more on this album is rewarding in itself. The main issue with this album though is consistency. The riffs are less monotonous, but some of them are repetitive at times. The songs that showcase their old sound are weaker compared to the songs that showcase their newfound sound (Angel Below vs When The Sun Still Sleeps).
When The Sun Still Sleeps
Letting Go of Tonight
The Best of Me
They're Only Chasing Safety
Ahh, the true debut album by Underoath (I said it). Let's be real here for a moment. This album could have been complete shit. Underoath could have easily disbanded after Dallas Taylor left the band. This album was a make-it-or-break-it album for the band. Man, they picked the right man to replace Dallas Taylor. Spencer Chamberlin as the new vocalist/screamer/lyricist instantly turns this band into the best Christian Metalcore group of the mid-2000s. Grant Brandell (one of the most underrated bassists in metalcore) and James Smith joined the band around the same time as Spencer and would cement the classic Underoath lineup. Having Aaron Gillespie take up call and response vocals with Spencer Chamberlin would help to establish the vocal dynamic between the two in the next two albums to come. This is a near-perfect album.
The track I hate:
"Some Will Seek Forgiveness, Others Escape
The beginning of the end. I have absolutely no qualms with this album now. I used to absolutely refuse to listen to this album because this is the only album by Underoath to not feature Aaron Gillespie on drums or on vocals. The former drummer of Botch-ripoff band Norma Jean is the temporary drummer on the album. He does an excellent job replacing Aaron Gillespie, and it is hard to notice the difference between the percussion found on this album compared to the percussion found on the previous two albums. You only notice that Aaron is not present on the album when you notice the lack of clean vocals from him. All of the clean vocals are either done by Spencer or Timothy. All of the lyrics were written by Spencer. The album is as dark, if not more desperate than the previous two albums before Disambiguation.
Catch Me Catching Myself
A Divine Eradication
Lost in the Sound of Separation
The follow-up to Define the Great Line. This is a refined and sludgier version of Define the Great Line, with mind-splitting crescendos and depressive soundscapes to match. This is arguably the tightest soundest Underoath album by the band. The production of the album is the best in their discography. I personally think this is the band's heaviest album. I also think this is the band's darkest album. The subject matter is less about Spencer, more about overall despair and situations of abandonment, loneliness, trial, and grief, although Spencer probably wrote about those subjects from his own point-of-view. This is an absolute classic in the genre, a pinnacle album in Underoath's discography.
"Emergency Broadcast: The End Is Near"
Define the Great Line
Define the Great Line is the master thesis of the sound aesthetics of Underoath. This is Underoath's most personal album. This album has the best riffs by Underoath found on any of their albums (In Regards to Myself in particular). This is their most cathartic-sounding album. All of the lyrics revolve around Spencer struggling with his drug addiction, wanting to get clean but failing to do so. They're Only Chasing Safety only touched upon Spencer "recovering from drug addiction" in parts (4 or 5 songs) while Define the Great Line is mainly about Spencer struggling to keep his head above water and how he wants to give in, but he knows he has the power to keep moving on. There isn't enough space for me to describe how much I love this album.
Returning Empty Handed going into Casting Such a Thin Shadow (nothing motivates to get through depression better besides a J)
|3 2 1 4 6 dont care|
|Not a bad rank at all my guy. Although I enjoy 7, 6, and 5 significantly more than you rating-wise|
|6 is worse than 7 and 8.|
|whats the difference between a 4.74 album and a 4.75 album|
|@onionbubs, when did you start to listen to Underoath? I find that ranking to be interesting. @TheWondersofar, I find 6 and 7 to be really boring listens, especially when I know there are better Christian Black Metal albums released by other contemporary artists. I also have not really listened to these albums except for a handful of times. Erase Me is shit to me. I haven't felt so disappointed after listening to an album until I listened to Erase Me. That isn't Underoath to me. It is Underoath + Aaron Gillespie and you can easily tell the difference between this album and Lost in the Sounds of Separation by listening to how the percussion doesn't sound as tight, nor as concise as it did on Lost in the Sound of Separation. @Get Low, I didn't say 6 is their worst album because there are still three or four songs off of that album that are better than any songs off of 7 and 8. @TheMightyScoop, the difference between a 4.74 album and a 4.75 album is one is a superb album and one is a classic album. 4.74 = superb, just one point shy of being a classic album. I feel like Disambiguation is a superb album, but I can't say it is a classic album because I have only listened to the album maybe ten times because I remember being upset that Aaron wasn't the drummer on the album. I guarantee that this album is more likely to get a classic rating from me than They're Only Chasing Safety. You can blame Some Will Seek Forgiveness, Others Escape, the only overtly-religious song that can be found in the discography with Spencer. The band didn't write the song, Aaron Marsh did and Solid State Records wanted a Christian song on the album to help sell the album more copies in Christian bookstores and marketplaces. I hate that song, I have never liked that song because it is so cheesy and inauthentic compared to the rest of the band's discography. Lost in the Sound of Separation is a classic to me, from track opener to track closer. The only other album in my opinion that is better than their darkest and heaviest album has to be Define the Great Line. Hopefully this helps to clear up a few questions about how I rated the albums.|
|started listening to underoath around the time erase me was announced. i cant stand dallas|
|I prefer 2, 3, and 4 to 1 but great write up |
|The Changing of Times is too underrated def better than TOCS, which is the most overrated Underoath album, sure it launched them into popularity and gave them Spencer but it was their most commercial sounding album until Erase Me released and its pretty inconsistent too with some good tracks and some of their worst ones on top of that Spencers screams were just immitating Dallas on that one. TCOT is more consistent, has some of their Metal sound while still progressing and is probably their saddest sounding album, its easily a top 3 imo.|
Also "Botch rip-off band Norma Jean" lmao cmon man did I just accidentally step into a time machine and get send back to 2007? Only album NJ did that sounds even remotely like Botch is Oh God the Aftermath. I doubt Botch would ever make anything that sounds like Redeemer or Bless the Martyr or The Anti-Mother.
|okay so what about a 4.72 and 4.73 album|
|Pretty much the same ranking as me, just with lower scores|
|3 > 2 > 1 > 6 > 4 = 5 > 7 >>> 8|
TOCS wore off on me a bit after like 10-15 listens but is still solid
|I have listened to TOCS at least 5,000 times and it hasn't grown old on me yet. |
|Honestly I can't explain just what made it wear off on me, other than maybe Spencer's "trying to emulate Dallas" scream delivery and Aaron's signature bordering-on-whiny clean vocal delivery.|
|Erase Me over LITSOS.|
|LITSOS is just a poorly done imitation of DTGL imo, I really struggle to listen to it and rarely get past the first 2 or 3 songs before fucking it off and listening to Disambig or DTGL.|
|Ahh, I gotcha.|
|LITSOS takes some time to get into. Just be patient with the album and let it develop.|
|while yr ratings are wack, I completely agree with this ranking |
|"Erase Me over LITSOS"|
YOU. ARE. CANCELED.
|Pretty damn good list. Top 4 is spot on. |
|Ok band. I have to say, 1 is pretty damn dark for a Christian band. |
|@Manatee, mate I've listened to it at least 100 times since it came out it's not about taking time to get into it, it's just it's so much more inferior than either album surrounding it.|
@Ghost, sue me I think Erase Me is fucking great.
|Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but Erase Me over LITSOS? I just listened to both yesterday and LITSOS is a classic. It isn't Define The Great Line, but it is darker and more grim than DTGL to be honest. It is their heaviest and most bleak album. Erase Me sounds disjointed, all over the place, and Aaron seems more like a guest vocalist on the album. It sounds like a poor man's Sempiternal imo. The band was heavily influenced by BMTH during the recording of Erase Me and they apparently wanted to low-key ripoff a few songs off of Sempiternal.|